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President Obama will have to deal with birthers
International World News ^ | Jan 1, 2012 | Greg Rogers

Posted on 01/02/2012 9:42:46 AM PST by SvenMagnussen

Las Vegas 1 January 2011 (sic). President Obama has(sic) had a dream run to the White House and hopes to remain there for another term. His chances of re election are diminished by his failure to convince Americans that he is entitled to the office he holds.

There are many Americans who are concerned that Barack Obama is not who and what he says he is. Veterans like Robert Laity are frustrated that media outlets have not pressured President Obama into releasing a real authenticated copy of his birth certificate. There appears little doubt that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii but many people believe that he is not entitled to hold his office as he is ineligible due to the status of his parents. The President's birth certificate would clear up that issue.

Robert Laity is a vocal American who is complaining to have Barack Obama charged with electoral fraud. The issue seems to be that the election authorities do not require a candidate to prove that he or she is entitled to seek an office. It is up to someone to prove that a candidate is not entitled to stand.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birther; birtherromney; eligibility; kenyanfather; naturalborncitizen; naturalized; nbc; president; socialsecuritynumber; usurp
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To: MtBaldy
Romney was born in Detroit, Michigan. It doesn’t matter if his parents were citizens or not, he is a US citizen by virtue of being born on US soil. If it did Obongo would not be a citizen since his alleged baby daddy was a Kenyan. Actually, Romney’s father may have been a citizen anyway since both his parents were US citizens.

Can't remember the name of the case but the Supreme court has made at least one ruling that you MUST have TWO citizen parents in order to be a Natural born citizen. Being a citizen is not enough, you must be natural born. Bozo is NOT eligible to be President since, by his own admission, his father is a British subject.

61 posted on 01/02/2012 12:58:10 PM PST by calex59
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To: SvenMagnussen

A very interesting bit of detective work...

1. Back in 1961 people of color were called ‘Negroes.’ So how can the Obama ‘birth certificate’ state he is ‘African-American’ when the term wasn’t even used at that time?

2. The birth certificate that the White House released lists Obama’s birth as August 4, 1961. It also lists Barack Hussein Obama as his father. No big deal, right? At the time of Obama’s birth, it also shows that his father is aged 25 years old, and that Obama’s father was born in “Kenya, East Africa.” This wouldn’t seem like anything of concern, except the fact that Kenya did not even exist until 1963, two whole years after Obama’s birth, and 27 years after his father’s birth. How could Obama’s father have been born in a country that did not yet exist? Up and until Kenya was formed in 1963, it was known as the “British East Africa Protectorate.”

3. On the birth certificate released by the White House, the listed place of birth is “Kapi’olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital.” This cannot be, because the hospital(s) in question in 1961 were called “KauiKeolani Children’s Hospital” and “Kapi’olani Maternity Home,” respectively. The name did not change to Kapi’olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until 1978, when these two hospitals merged. How can this particular name of the hospital be on a birth certificate dated 1961 if this name had not yet been applied to it until 1978?

Resources:

http://www.kapiolani.org/women-and-children/about-us/default.aspx

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Kenya

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenya

Why hasn’t this been discussed in the major media?????


62 posted on 01/02/2012 12:59:28 PM PST by IAGeezer912 (If government ownership of business is so great, why aren't the N. Koreans filthy rich?)
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To: Doc Savage

soetoro/obama already posted 2 bc stating BHO sr as the father and ‘african’ as the father’s ‘nationality’!

if his ‘real’ bc, if any, does not show a father, that means he has lied under oath!
Soetor/obama is stuck with BHO sr as his father, a father that is NOT a US citizen!

Suppose no father was listed in the BC, there is still these issues -
1. his mother did not meet the age and residency requirement to confer US citizenship to him.
2. he was adopted by an Indonesian, Lolo Soetoro, and was taken to Indonesia to study in a state school that only ‘Indonesian’ can enroll in. The school registration paper shows his name as ‘Barry Soetoro’ - proof that he was adopted by his Indonesian step-father. (There was also a divorce paper showing barry as the ‘minor’ son ) So the Indonesian Barry Soetoro, upon return to Hawaii, must naturalize to be a US citizen again. But there is no record of his naturalization!

If he was really born in Hawaii, he could be a US citizen, turned Indonesian when adopted by his step-father, then remains an Indoenesian till now because he has never naturalized to be a US citizen!
That is probably why he will not release his college records, which will show that he was getting foreign aids as a foreign student!


63 posted on 01/02/2012 1:15:52 PM PST by chrisnj
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To: philman_36

Unfortunately you are right! IT IS not going to happen! The candidates are too stupid and the people are too.... well, you fill in the blanks.


64 posted on 01/02/2012 1:19:26 PM PST by chrisnj
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To: chrisnj
but they are not so smart after all!

I don't understand. Who are "they"?

65 posted on 01/02/2012 2:07:17 PM PST by T Ruth (Islam shall be defeated.)
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To: chrisnj
So if his father was born a Mexican (because of his birth in Mexico) and was never naturalized to be a US citizen then Mitt is NOT an article 2 natural born citizen (nbc)!

If his father was naturalized prior to Mitt’ birth then Mitt is a nbc.

Congratulations! You are 100 percent Correcto Mungo.

66 posted on 01/02/2012 2:49:00 PM PST by chopperman
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To: MCF

McCain was not born in the Canal Zone. He was born off base. He also is not an NBC.


67 posted on 01/02/2012 2:56:22 PM PST by chopperman
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To: null and void
Not according to his birth certificate, he wasn't.

He was born in Colón. Colón is now and always has been in Panama. Like West Berlin, surrounded by East Germany, it was surrounded by the Canal Zone, but never part of it.

That "Colon" birth certificate is a fake. He was born on the Coco Solo submarine base. McCain has NOT RELEASED his birth certificate. He has shown it to some reporters but he has NOT RELEASED it.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/05/john_mccains_birthplace.html

68 posted on 01/02/2012 3:11:47 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: frog in a pot

You are saying what I have been saying for three years. Make him PROVE he is eligible by showing an ORIGINAL birth certificate or don’t let him on the ballot.
(Which is what should have been done in the first place.)


69 posted on 01/02/2012 3:15:05 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Why would someone release a fake BC that shows they are NOT qualified for a job?


70 posted on 01/02/2012 3:16:00 PM PST by null and void (Day 1077 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: Jonty30
How is Romney not eligible?

According to some freepers, if you cannot trace back to the Mayflower, you cannot be President.

Kinda defeats all the action of 1776, but hey...purity prevails.

71 posted on 01/02/2012 3:18:15 PM PST by eddie willers
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To: chopperman
McCain was not born in the Canal Zone. He was born off base. He also is not an NBC.

McCain was NOT BORN off the base. He was born in the base hospital, i.e. American territory.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/05/john_mccains_birthplace.html

72 posted on 01/02/2012 3:21:47 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: null and void
Why would someone release a fake BC that shows they are NOT qualified for a job?

Your question answers itself. He didn't. That birth certificate was a forgery created by an Obot to muddy the waters.

73 posted on 01/02/2012 3:24:21 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: IAGeezer912; SatinDoll

>> 1. Back in 1961 people of color were called ‘Negroes.’ So how can the Obama ‘birth certificate’ state he is ‘African-American’ when the term wasn’t even used at that time? <<

With a Court Order, the HI DoH records administrator has the authority to edit, change, update or modify an existing record and backdate it to the original filing date to mask the change, i.e. a child is adopted and his birth name and the name of his birth father are changed ... the original is sealed and archived and a new COLB is created and backdated.

The clues to the Soetoro adoption are:

1) BHO’s II original long form BC has been sealed and archived by Hawaii DoH

2) BHO’s II original long form BC has a “date accepted” and his COLB has a “date filed”. The “date filed” is due to a Court Ordered changed, update, edit or modification by the Hawaii DoH records administrator.

3) The original should have stated BHO Sr. race as Negro and the updated, modified, changed or politically correct Court Order states his race is African American.


74 posted on 01/02/2012 3:27:11 PM PST by SvenMagnussen (BHO II naturalized as U.S. Citizen after becoming an Indonesian National)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Is that so? Source please.


75 posted on 01/02/2012 3:28:13 PM PST by null and void (Day 1077 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: eddie willers
According to some freepers, if you cannot trace back to the Mayflower, you cannot be President.

Kinda defeats all the action of 1776, but hey...purity prevails.

There are no reasonable freepers who assert this. A few muddled souls have claimed that your parents had to be "natural born citizens" but only a very few have claimed such and they were quickly corrected by the vast majority who knew better.

It doesn't matter HOW your parents became citizens, whether by naturalization, by statute, by derivation, by being born within the geographical boundaries of the U.S. or by being "born a Natural citizen." What matters is that a born child has no claim on allegiance but to this country.

Undivided Allegiance is the entire point.

76 posted on 01/02/2012 3:29:42 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: eddie willers

I tend to think that Romney is eligible, since his father was running to be the Democrat nominee.

I could be wrong, but I don’t think the elites were far enough along to ignore the Constitution at that point.

So, if Romney I was eligible, Romney II must also be eligible.


77 posted on 01/02/2012 3:29:54 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: null and void
Is that so? Source please.

I knew you were going to ask me that. Can you not google it yourself? It took me awhile to find it the last time.

78 posted on 01/02/2012 3:31:12 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp

I’m always willing to do the work needed to support what I say.


79 posted on 01/02/2012 3:41:33 PM PST by null and void (Day 1077 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: null and void

Here is one source I found after a quick search. Here is also the supposed lawsuit in which the fake McCain birth certificate was supposedly presented as “evidence.”

http://obamaeligibility.org/2010/04/24/educating-the-confused-mccains-birth-certificate/

http://moritzlaw.osu.edu/electionlaw/litigation/hollanderv.mccain.php

That is as much time as i’m going to spend on it. If you feel strongly about it, you can look up more information yourself. I think it is sufficient that I have shown that the “Colon” birth certificate is FAKE.


80 posted on 01/02/2012 3:42:21 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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