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Jim Robinson: Taking stock of our dwindling conservative inventory
Jan 5, 2011 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 01/05/2012 11:23:02 AM PST by Jim Robinson

Tea party favorite and pro-life conservative Sarah Palin and her family were viciously attacked to the point she chose not to run.

Congressional Tea Party Caucus leader and constitutional pro-life conservative Michele Bachmann had early promise, but I guess came across as too "shrill" and consequently her numbers driven down to the point she exited.

Successful pro-life conservative Texas Governor Perry hit the race at the top but due to missteps and less than stellar debate performances soon fizzled and is now all but gone.

Pro-life conservative businessman Cain and his famous 9-9-9 plan had promise, but was driven out due to indefensible allegations.

Pro-life Reagan Revolution conservative Newt Gingrich reinvigorated his campaign and soared to the top of the national polls, but was unacceptable to the establishment and apparently also unacceptable to the "true conservatives" among us and his numbers are now plummeting

You'd think "unquestionably" pro-life, pro-family conservative Rick Santorum whose recent surge took him to a tie in Iowa and who's now surging in the national polls might be good enough to stand against Romney for the base, but looks like there are "true conservatives" now attacking HIM as not good enough.

Well, drive them all out and who's left?

Huntsman? Who? Moonbat Paul?

Ideas anyone? Should we all continue attacking the conservatives we don't like until we drive them all out?

Personally, I could easily have lived with Palin, Bachmann, Cain, Perry, Newt or Santorum and would be proud to enthusiastically support any of them, warts and all. Any one of them is infinitely better than Obama or Romney.

But if we don't land on one soon and raise him up over Romney, guess who we're going to be stuck with? And it ain't going to be pretty. And if abortionist/statist/progressive Romney (or moonbat Paul) is the one, might as well get used to four more years of Obama. I won't vote for or support either one of those two.

I'd suggest that we all stop trying to tear down the other conservative candidates in the race and instead concentrate on trying to build up our own personal favorites. Who knows? May even discover an acceptable conservative (if not a great conservative) in the bunch. We've never had a perfect conservative yet. Not even the magnificent Ronald Reagan. We and they all have warts.

But we do want to have a candidate with at least an actual CONSERVATIVE record and not an out and out liberal progressive RINO. So let's compare their records and their actual conservative accomplishments but not try to destroy them personally.

God bless and may the best CONSERVATIVE be our nominee.


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KEYWORDS: conservatives; elections; eleventhcommandment; gingrich; jimrobinson; newt
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To: massatoosits
For all his flaws, and they are substantial, he is no Marxist.

Well, he SAYS he isn't, but you can't prove that by his statist liberal record as Governor of Massachusetts. Obama wouldn't have governed any differently, had he been Governor. Neither would Hillary.

Bypassed the state legislature and mandated gay marriage.
Raised taxes.
Supported gun grabbing laws and regulations.
Presided over a plummeting state economy which saw MA fall to #48.
Signed the precursor to ObamaCare into law.

481 posted on 01/05/2012 8:54:41 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I am totally disheartened at this point. It’s been like watching a Keystone Kops movie to see all the mishaps, missteps, and mistakes made by this hapless crew.

WE need a hero. There don’t seem to be any willing to take the heat.


482 posted on 01/05/2012 8:55:33 PM PST by luvie (This tagline reserved for a hero.......)
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To: lonestar
You are really fuzzy or you aren't a small government conservative...maybe you don't claim to be.

Knock it off. That sort of behavior is exactly what Jim Rob was driving at in his original post.

I've never followed Rick Santorum's career. I admitted to being 'fuzzy' about his record in the Senate. The first poster who responded was kind enough to give me his take on Santorum's record.

How 'bout you knock off the ridicule and give me your take?

483 posted on 01/05/2012 8:59:31 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Vendome

484 posted on 01/05/2012 9:01:44 PM PST by luvie (This tagline reserved for a hero.......)
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To: One Name

Don’t succumb to the temptation to go third party. There isn’t yet enough momentum and widespread support for the idea to create a coalition big enough to win against the machine.

We have a conservative who’s tough enough, mad enough, experienced enough, and with enough support, to take down Romney. That’s Newt.

I’ve had my issues with him in the past, but the man has shown that he’s got the capacity to learn and grow. He’s also smart enough to read the battle field as it exists in present time, and knows which way to point his artillery. He’s not afraid to use it, either.

The man is just the sort of junk yard pit bull that we need in the White House. He’s got an honest love for this country and its foundations, and will take the fight to the ruling class Socialist oligarchs in our government, and knock their teeth out.

We need that more than ever right now.


485 posted on 01/05/2012 9:08:31 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Squidpup
Rick ‘n Rick 2012!

Poetic!

486 posted on 01/05/2012 9:09:43 PM PST by luvie (This tagline reserved for a hero.......)
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To: TomasUSMC
Palin could come back in the South Carolina Primary and win it with write in votes. Palin though would light it up like a SuperNova.

Ain't that the truth. I still believe that she's got a greater level of latent support across America, than any of the candidates currently running.

487 posted on 01/05/2012 9:13:00 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Kickass Conservative
If people think Obama and Romney are the same when it comes to nominating a Supreme Court Justice, I offer Kagan and Sotomeyor as examples.

Don't be so sure. Romney appointed lots of liberals to the bench when he was Governor of Massachusetts.

488 posted on 01/05/2012 9:16:35 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

I watched a 15 minute compilation of his debate highlights a few minutes ago.

I do remember 1994, and the disciplined schooling of the new majority house members.

He is by far the most articulate and knowledgeable guy in the room, and I must admit I would enjoy watching him fillet the poseur.

I agree that the 3rd Party impulse is premature- it’s my nature to jump ahead. I’ll wait.


489 posted on 01/05/2012 9:19:03 PM PST by One Name
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To: thecodont

The majority of the Paulbots will not be supporting the Republican nominee.


490 posted on 01/05/2012 9:20:02 PM PST by Keith in Iowa (No Mit Sherlock. No Mit, not now, not ever. | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: Windflier
Knock it off. That sort of behavior is exactly what Jim Rob was driving at in his original post

LOL! You have...got...to...be...kidding!

If you think that's bad, it's a good thing you haven't been a Perry supporter!

And I believe I've seen your name attached to some less than civil comments!

491 posted on 01/05/2012 9:22:43 PM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Windflier

Earlier, a poster offered good insight “Who would you want fighting alongside you” or words to that effect.

I propose we all list our choices to the following issues

Constitutional issues (obamacare/czaes and the like
Immigration
Economic issues
War/Defense/Islamic issues
Special “Rights” issues.

For me its...
Gingrich across the board and that surprises me.


492 posted on 01/05/2012 9:24:33 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Curse you, Norm Lenhart! Im slain, crumpled in a ditch by your obvious superiority - Humblegunner)
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To: Norm Lenhart

How did you make someone who is dumb as a box of rocks cry?


493 posted on 01/05/2012 9:26:03 PM PST by Lakeshark
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To: humblegunner; Jim Robinson
It’s looking like Gingrich or Santorum. Santorum has good positions but comes off kind of punky. Don’t count Perry out yet. I’d take any of the three.

I agree with you... Things are so toxic within the TEA Party here in New York, I have refused to discuss the presidential contest. The Paulbots are like a cancer, they are everywhere.

494 posted on 01/05/2012 9:34:25 PM PST by The Mayor ("If you can't make them see the light, let them feel the heat" — Ronald Reagan)
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To: One Name
I do remember 1994, and the disciplined schooling of the new majority house members. He is by far the most articulate and knowledgeable guy in the room, and I must admit I would enjoy watching him fillet the poseur.

Of course we're not electing a debater in chief, but unless our nominee has the ability to communicate effectively, and convincingly make the case for limited government, and a return to the ideals and practices which made America great, it won't matter. They'll lose to the Usurper anyway.

Can Mitt do that? Not a chance. He can't debate Obama on his record because his is nearly identical. Not only that, he doesn't have a spark of fire in him, because he has no personal convictions. At least Obama really believes in his lunatic ideals.

Can Perry do it? I'm afraid he'd freeze up in front of the cameras, and Obama would make mincemeat out of him. I'm not even sure that Perry would excite the base enough to show up and give him the win on election day.

Santorum? I think the best case in a meeting between him and Obama would be a draw, although I hear that his post Iowa speech was great. If he's to have any chance at all, he's going to have to give that sort of performance 100% of the time, from here on out. I don't know that he can, but maybe. We'll see.

How 'bout Newt? In his case, there's no question that he's got the right stuff to eviscerate Obama in any meeting, but he's also got the chops to effectively communicate our ideals and goals to the whole electorate. He's also the only one I trust to do what absolutely must be done, should he go on to win the general.

495 posted on 01/05/2012 9:37:47 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Newt is a non-starter.

He is an admitted “progressive republican”. One who will govern in the cast of Wilson....Newt is not what this country needs now.

We are past the days of “he is not” a democrat so lets vote for him.

We need a solid conservative...Someone who can get the Country back on to a moral footing so we can move forward again. Newt is not a moral person and he is not a real conservative by his own admission.


496 posted on 01/05/2012 9:39:25 PM PST by CSI007
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To: Windflier
Which is why I mentioned Bush's choice of Harriet Meyers and the ensuing outrage by Republicans that caused him to withdraw the Nomination.

The other point is that Obama would only snicker at any Republican opposed to his chosen Nominee.

While I am not a Romney supporter, the idea that he and Obama are one in the same is ridiculous. That seems to be the current mantra here.

Anybody but Obama, ANYBODY. What will be, will be.

497 posted on 01/05/2012 9:39:37 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Liberals, Useful Idiots Voting for Useless Idiots...)
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To: lonestar
If you think that's bad, it's a good thing you haven't been a Perry supporter!

Puh-leeeze!

I was a Palin supporter, and I know what day in, day out vitriol looks like, my friend. I endured nearly three years of it every day on this website, until Sarah announced she wasn't running. Hell, there's still some PDS bouncing around here.

You Perry supporters have had it easy, compared to what we Palin supporters have dealt with for so long.

498 posted on 01/05/2012 9:43:30 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Perry would deconstruct Washington, although he might eliminate the NRC, thinking it was the NLRB.

I actually have alot of respect for him standing up to the EPA on coal and oil issues in Texas.

Newt, as a denizen of Washington I think could still saw enough off with ample warning that his confederates would have time to run for the hills and form deconstruction consultant firms.

I’m somewhat cynical but NG has the vision; I’d like to see the willpower.

Cheers, FRiend!


499 posted on 01/05/2012 9:48:47 PM PST by One Name
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To: Windflier
LOL! There was a time I WAS a Palin supporter!

I gave up on her before she did what I thought she would do.

500 posted on 01/05/2012 9:52:24 PM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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