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Election 2012: South Carolina Republican Primary(Romney 27%, Santorum 24%)
Rasmussen Reports ^ | 01/06/2012 | Staff

Posted on 01/06/2012 6:17:53 AM PST by Rational Thought

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To: Rational Thought
"every single poll leading up to just before Christmas suggest that more than half of Iowa likely caucus goers have not firmly made up their minds." -Carl Cameron from The Bill O'Reilly Show 12/26/11

Why, after pointless predictions by pundits like Bill O'Reilly, do we only hear about some real details on the overhyped Iowa Primary a week before the vote? Have the polls done by the leftist/ad selling media ever been an honest view of how the country is voting for the GOP nominee?

"When the polls were wrong, which was often, they overestimated support for the Democrat, usually by about 6 to 10 points." Ann Coulter.

Until the media included the undecideds on Sunday, Gingrich was to own Iowa, followed by Romney. The rest really didn't matter. Here are the numbers from a Reuters story on Dec 12th of those likely to vote in the Iowa caucuses: Gingrich 29.8% Mitt Romney, 20.3%, Ron Paul 10.7%. U.S. Rep. Michele Bachman 8.5%, Rick Perry 8.2%. Since he didn't buy enough ads or hire enough ex/future media people from PR firms, and is a conservative that can win with conservative volunteers, Rick Santorum wasn't worth mentioning. Pat Caddell said that Santorum was in single digits a week before 01/03/12! Keep that in mind as you see the election results:

Santorum & Romney 25%, Paul 21%, Gingrich 13% Perry 10% Bachmann 5% Huntsman 1%.

Is there is a reason to trust a pundit claiming a candidate is "finished" after this "surprise"?

241 posted on 01/06/2012 6:30:48 PM PST by pulaskibush (Thou shalt tax/steal from Peter to help Paul/Pablo is not in the Bible!)
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To: arderkrag; TexasFreeper2009
“Newt’s “organization” doesn’t seem to be helping him much. Neither does Perry’s. Meanwhile, Santorum’s lack of so-called “organization” seems to be serving him quite well. The “lack of money” line is a non-argument as well”

Say Tex,

Didn't I read that Newt and Perry both got on the Tennessee ballot, and Santorum failed to qualify? I'd be interested in seeing where each of them is with respect to that.

242 posted on 01/06/2012 6:46:43 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
good grief, we are never going to get rid of Santorum now, I am afraid Romney may have this now because of Santorum :(

It won't be because of Santorum. It will be because of whiny assed so-called conservative purists, in synch with the marxist press damning anything short of the chosen one, Romney, to contend with the unknowable Kenyan.

You got a problem with that?

"Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery?" - Patrick Henry

243 posted on 01/06/2012 6:49:46 PM PST by glock rocks (Jesus take the wheel, Take it from my hands, cause I can't do this on my own...)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
I am afraid Romney may have this now because of Santorum :(

Translation: I believe Newt Gingrich may be falling out of the race because Rick Santorum looks more Presidential and is more conservative than McNewt. We are fortunate that Gingrich has self-destructed this early in the campaign instead of it happing in August, September, and October.

244 posted on 01/06/2012 7:09:35 PM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: Rational Thought

CBS has Romney at 37 percent in SC and Santorum and Gingrich tied at 24 percent. Perry is not mentioned. The political establishment is strong in SC, and it is for Romney. That’s what we are up against with divided opposition.


245 posted on 01/06/2012 7:11:03 PM PST by Theodore R. (I'll still vote for the Right Rick --Santorum-- if he is on the April 3 ballot.)
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To: NKP_Vet

Thanks for the info it gives me some hope. I do really like Newt’s proposals, and I was ok with most of his Congressional track record.

Did your brother indicate what the situation is with respect to the 2 Ricks? Based on what I’ve heard over several interviews, I don’t believe Newt planned to win Iowa or New Hampshire, and He didn’t think he would bounce up so early in the polls either.

It is a shame he didn’t have the money to respond to all the negative ads in Iowa, but I think he’s going to conserve his money till S. Carolina.


246 posted on 01/06/2012 7:15:21 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
He doesn't. Which means if Santorum doesn't implode soon Romney walks to the nomination.

How is Romney going to walk to the nomination with only 25% of the vote? Your bogus fear tactic is getting quite tiresome. Newt is dropping the ball in typical Newt fashion. It's better that you push your denial to the side and realize it now. Everyone is sick of the arrogance of Baraq Obama, and they are turned off by Newt's whiny arrogance as well.

247 posted on 01/06/2012 7:23:37 PM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: Rational Thought

SC is the state of Lindsey Graham; we can’t expect too much of the voters there.


248 posted on 01/06/2012 7:25:15 PM PST by Theodore R. (I'll still vote for the Right Rick --Santorum-- if he is on the April 3 ballot.)
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To: Godebert

I didn’t know about Mittens spitting on the Confederate flag, but I know he meant it. I don’t think the little southern primary voters know about that either. So many of our little primary voters only know “who’s turn it is.” I am cautiously optimistic but no fool when it comes to SC voters.


249 posted on 01/06/2012 7:27:58 PM PST by Theodore R. (I'll still vote for the Right Rick --Santorum-- if he is on the April 3 ballot.)
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To: tallyhoe

A Romney win will be the end of GOP.

Dems know it.

Total revolt on that.


250 posted on 01/06/2012 7:28:50 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: KTM rider
I believe that Newt has no intention of becoming president and is just a Republican insider riding Shotgun for Romney , to draw votes off of any conservative and insure a win for the Big Government Republican insider choice, Romney.

If so, this will sink us, as Fred Thompson did in 2008. To me, it's a no-brainer. Santorum 2012.

251 posted on 01/06/2012 7:30:51 PM PST by Theodore R. (I'll still vote for the Right Rick --Santorum-- if he is on the April 3 ballot.)
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To: elpadre

Paul has also military experience, an evangelical Christian and is a conservative...I rather have him than Capt. Gardasil


252 posted on 01/06/2012 7:37:02 PM PST by Leader_Of_The _Conservatives (High time to bring back the true sons of liberty!!!!)
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To: rbmillerjr

“Budget was never balanced. Debt went up every year”

Your facts are wrong...Gingrich presided over the only balanced budgets in a long time...persuading Clinton to come along, a political fete rare in occurrence.”

The national debt has gone up every year since 1957. However, the “surplus” Social Security taxes collected during that time period actually contributed to the National Debt, because they are “invested” in special issue Treasuries.

Newt did balance the budget, so that the spending did not exceed the incoming funds from all sources. Clinton then took credit and claimed that he had turned a deficit into a surplus.

LSM pointed out about once that the “surplus” was actually the excess Social Security. Then, realtiy was ignored as both parties argued about how to spend the non - existent surplus.

I agree with you that it was quite a feat to balance the budget, even though it did not bring down the National Debt.


253 posted on 01/06/2012 7:39:20 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: veritas2002

Paul receives 65 percent of the middle


254 posted on 01/06/2012 7:39:26 PM PST by Leader_Of_The _Conservatives (High time to bring back the true sons of liberty!!!!)
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To: Mase

To paraphrase Reagan, if the people don’t understand, then we just need to explain it to them.

Bottom line, when there is a charismatic person who can articulate conservative principles and why they work, conservatism wins every time.


255 posted on 01/06/2012 7:48:12 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Rational Thought
Gingrich and Santorum will knock Romney out of the race here!

Gingrich-Santorum
 
or
 
Santorum-Gingrich

256 posted on 01/06/2012 8:16:37 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: caww
And then there's reality. Newt isn't the front runner because he has problems, mostly of his own creation. He doesn't seem to have the self control of either his life or his mouth. He tends to say whatever he thinks at any particular time. In a friend that would be interesting and enjoyable, but it gives too much ammunition to his opponents.
It would be more accurate to say 'the best I think can be attained in this next election cycle is someone to undo some of the damage Obama has done'. What I want is for the constitution to be enforced as written (like that's ever going to happen).
257 posted on 01/06/2012 8:17:45 PM PST by conejo99
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To: conejo99

Just so you have the right perspective concerning Newt’s problems...posted on Jim’s thread.

“Jacob was a cheater, Peter had a temper, David had an affair, Noah got drunk, Jonah ran from God, Paul was a murderer, Gideon was insecure, Miriam was a gossiper, Martha was a worrier, Thomas was a doubter, Elijah was moody, Moses stuttered, Zaccheus was short, Abraham was old, Lazarus was dead....”

God doesn’t call the qualified, He qualifies the CALLED!

505 posted on Thursday, January 05, 2012 9:55:03 PM by TomasUSMC


258 posted on 01/06/2012 8:43:46 PM PST by caww
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To: Salvation

Hallelujah! On either of these we agree! Sweet!

Though I’d prefer Newt as Pres....but then He might work like Chenny did behind the scenes if Santaorum gets it.....but I’d still prefer Newt at the helm.


259 posted on 01/06/2012 8:49:41 PM PST by caww
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To: Leader_Of_The _Conservatives
Paul receives 65 percent of the middle

My ass. Percentile dysfunction. See Dole, Bob.

260 posted on 01/06/2012 8:55:48 PM PST by glock rocks (Jesus take the wheel, Take it from my hands, cause I can't do this on my own...)
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