Skip to comments.Election 2012: South Carolina Republican Primary(Romney 27%, Santorum 24%)
Posted on 01/06/2012 6:17:53 AM PST by Rational Thought
What a difference a caucus makes. Rick Santorum who two months ago had one percent (1%) support among likely South Carolina Republican Primary voters now is running a close second there with 24% of the vote.
The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey in the Palmetto State finds former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney still in the lead, earning 27% support from likely GOP Primary Voters, up from 23% in early November. Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich is in third with 18% of the vote, followed by Texas Congressman Ron Paul at 11%.
Bringing up the rear are Texas Governor Rick Perry with five percent (5%) and former Utah Governor Jon Huntsman at two percent (2%). Another two percent (2%) of these likely primary voters like some other candidate, and 11% remain undecided
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The problem is we’re tied of GOP prez candidates being inarticulate. The libs love to portray conservatives as dumb and Perry’s gaffes play right into that stereotype.
A lot of feel the same way about Gingrich chances at the nomination. Except Santorum has actually won something.
Gingrich and Perry have not won squat!
If u are concerned about Santorum’s rising poll numbers,
you should contact the Gingrich campaign. He seems to be hording all that campaign cash. I’d say now would be a good time to start using that horded cash.
Santorum’s path to victory is to make a respectable showing in NH, have Perry drop out and support him prior to SC, win SC, then have Gingrich drop out and support him. He would then have the financial resources and momentum to pound Romney throughout the south.
I think you are right. We NEED CONSOLIDATION against Mitt.. but WHO to drop out? and then would Ron Paul run as a Independent and water it all down?
um... I hate to be the bearer of bad news.. but Santorum lost Iowa.
which means he hasn’t won squat either.
Conservatives should rally behind Santorum...support for the “lower tier” (Newt, Perry, Paul, etc.) candidates will only split the vote and hand the nomination to Romney (just like Fred did for McLame).
Since Newt and Perry are not gaining any momentum, both should drop out of the running and throw thier support behind Santorum who has the money and support to beat Flip Romney and has the conservative credentials to dethrone King Hussein III.
“A lot of feel the same way about Gingrich chances at the nomination. Except Santorum has actually won something.
Gingrich and Perry have not won squat!”
Iowa isn’t a “win” for anyone.
He has the same number of delegates as Romney and I think Paul too.
And that is only 4 more than what Perry and Newt got.
And this is by basically not existing on the media radar. Everyone here knows this. It wasn’t because of powerful speeches or charisma or great debate performances or even policy statements. It was “Oh well he seems to haven’t been touched yet. I go for him!”.
Pretty much we are just waiting for the feather to come knock him over. His position is the weakest because he hasn’t been hit. Because he hasn’t stuck his neck out anywhere. Santorum is playing hide out, hoping that disgust with Romney will supply him with all the votes he needs.
He WILL get hit whenever Romney and the press is done using him as a toy to keep the right busy splitting their votes.
Actually, Santorum won half of Iowa's delgates....Newt got a goose egg.
Welcome to the human condition. Except for Jesus, there isn't a human being ever born, or who ever will be born, who is without flaws. The self-defeating problem most conservatives have is they make unattainable perfection the enemy of the good.
It seems like the untrustworthy Newt is the one that should drop out and stop splitting the vote.
The key to that though, is that the three not-Robney's run and split up winner-NOT-take-all primaries, so that they still have the combined clout without any two of them at the convention. The danger though is that Robney takes winner-take-all states with, say, his ceiling of 27%, and thus his delegates run the convention.
I'd like to look at how Robney is doing versus not-Robney's in winner-take-all states...
Newt’s “organization” doesn’t seem to be helping him much. Neither does Perry’s. Meanwhile, Santorum’s lack of so-called “organization” seems to be serving him quite well. The “lack of money” line is a non-argument as well.
You can bet that Ricardo is doing somebody's bidding. By staying in he's helping the Party bigwigs get their boy.
Not quite. In fact, none of the candidates have any pledged delegates to the convention at this point. The delegates for Iowa will actually be selected later in the year at a state convention. The caucuses only served to elect people to vote for national delegates at the state convention, which is held several months from now. So in reality, Iowa will be one of the last states in the country to select national delegates.
You are also wrong about Santorum getting half of Iowa's delegates and Newt getting none. The projected Iowa delegate totals for each candidate are as follows:
Romney - 7
Santorum - 7
Paul - 7
Gingrich - 2
Perry - 2
Your comment actually makes sense, if one is actually looking for 1 conservative to rally around. The sooner, the better.
All these polls show to me is that non-freepers and non-du-ers just see the MSM: Perry can’t talk, Newt is angry, Paul is a looney, Bauchman has migraines..It’s Romney, Romney, Romney all the time. Until Iowa they had not even heard of Santorum.
The remaining field needs to attack Romney, Romney, Romney. There has been no bad press for Romney. He needs to be provoked and picked on relentlessly. Show everyone that he is just another Obama. Romney=No Change=More of the Same and we can’t afford it!
Fook...this just plain sucks
what happened to Newt’s huge lead
DeMint supporting Romney...geezuss
man...if he ain’t got spine
does anyone in the Senate?
23+18+5 = 46
Santorum + Gingrich + Perry
Conservatives are killing themselves.
Romney is winning S Carolina because conservatives are killing themselves.
South Carolina is the conservative firewall. If the firewall is breached where do you fall back to then?
that is the delegate count after Iowa.
You don’t fall back to anywhere, because the media induced surge of Santorum was designed specifically to ensure Romney the nomination.
Let Rick Perry drop out. He hasn’t been able to regain his former support and he has no momentum.
Why are the Newt fans acting so viciously toward Rick Santorum? You should follow your candidate’s lead and work with the Santorum supporters because defeating Willard Romney the open socialist is our top priority.
You want to know why Newt didn’t win Iowa? It was because of Romney’s smear machine. It had nothing to do with Santorum. If anything, you should be thankful that the voters Mitt scared away didn’t join his camp.
After Romney gets out - IF he gets out - then may the best man win. Until then, put a sock in it and work toward our common goal. That includes voting for whichever candidate is most likely to defeat him regardless of your personal preferences. Me, I support Rick Santorum, but if Newt turns out to be the anti-Romney, I’ll vote for him instead.
Simple. Unlike the purists, they want a win by choosing the most electable candidate. That would not be Santorum, Newt or Huntsman. It’s the charisma, stupid. Nothing personal intended.
let me tell folks as a Deep South guy from Mississippi who claims South Carolina and Alabama as closest cultural kin.
these are the most bedrock socially conservative states in the Union amongst the white voters...rural blacks are Bible believers too but don’t vote that way
anyhow....if Romney can win there he can win anywhere
he will win NH
if he wins SC and FL, it’s over
the moderate beats a fractured quasi conservative field yet again
I am shocked Romney is in the lead
Romney gained some on his own and Santorum’s leap ate up Newt’s lead bigtime
one of those two should go
unlike many here I don’t see a lot of difference ideologically..and neither do ratings groups...giving Newt slight edge
but Santorum has less baggage
but Newt is unquestionably more able in debates and ferocity and determination....folks with his mind and will do not come along often
Santorum may be a hair more socially conservative
but if both stay in past Florida it will hurt us unless they can bind delegates...not sure they can do that?
hence...I can live with either but they cannot drag this on long enough for Mitt to continue to coalesce and I pray they do not let their egos kill our chance for a more conservative candidate
Then I guess we will have to see how SC turns out, so we can rally around 1 conservative. A lot of posters here have been saying “wait till SC”. They will get their wish very soon.
Maybe then, we can rally around 1 conservative, whoever that might be, Santorum, Gingrich or Perry.
I think Santorum will stay in as long as possible hoping to get a joint reality show with his new best friends the Duggers.
It’s a great point you raise.
The question becomes do the majority of voters support the Gay agenda or are they opposed?
One thing which is never discussed is the difference between being Gay and the Gay agenda. Like so many other agenda’s in our society, most of the specifics of this agenda are actually just a means to promote the Liberal ideology, the same (current) Liberal ideology which has been so supportive of certain Islamic societies, who’s penalties against Homosexuality have severe penalties, including death.
FReepmail Antoninus to be added or removed.that up.
Newt is by far the best attack dog in the field. He needs to stay in and destroy Romney for a conservative to have hope of winning the nomination.
Newt is politically astute enough to realize that his attacks may not personally benefit him. In fact it could draw down his support while undermining Romney's support. The beneficiaries could be Santorum and/or Perry. Negative campaigning is a risky strategy when there are more than just two options. However, Newt is likely to do it anyway because he is so disgusted with Romney.
And how well do you think Santorum’s opposition to birth control will fly with women? Somebody tell me how, please.
When looking at our Conservative choices, obviously none are perfect. But, I don't see many chinks in Santorum's armor when compared to the other Conservative candidates.
As for Romney's support, he is a solid 25%, and likely to remain at 25%.
Newt was given every opportunity to shine in this race and he failed. He allowed Mittens to pummel him without any strong response and then went on some tangent about the judiciary for a week or two that no one cared about. This is a straight up anti Obummer economy election. Prattling on about the 9th circuit in IA made no sense as shown by his finish there.
Santorum got to where he is on his own. There is no evidence that the media had anything to do with it. If it were not for Hannity and Levin, he wouldn’t have had any air time at all. Since the media didn’t create him, they can’t destroy him. He is the strongest candidate we have by far.
I agree with your tagline, but sure about Santorum’s motivations. We may only be certain if Romney ygets elected and Santorum gets appointed to some cabinet post.
But right now, he looks like a conservative, as is Perry and Gingrich and we are running out of alternatives here.
It shouldn’t be anything close to the most important issue in this campaign. But, if women (as a group) decide that birth control is their determining factor, then we deserve a Socialist as President.
My take is a bit different. Santorum surged due to Gingrich flatlining. Gingrich flatlined for 2 reasons in my mind: (1) He had no money to fight back, (2) he’d bought that bill of goods that says fighting back is counter-productive.
So, the shift to Santorum was a logical shift. Perry could also have been a shift, but he’d played that same stupid game as Gingrich had. Refusal to fight back.
The game Bush played about everything from WMDs to Who Brought down the WTC Towers....and that Cheney says was their critical mistake.
The game that McCain played and got taken to the cleaners with Sarah Palin screaming common sense all the way and not being heard.
The hope is that Santorum has some muscle and will retaliate.
Romney’s goons have not let loose on this issue yet because they need Santorum and Newt to split the anti Romney vote. Liberals are already all over it. If Santorum ends up being THE anti Romney candidate, all heck is going to break loose on this issue because the Romney goons will go after him. Romney will keep his hands clean like he did when the Romney goons went after Newt. While many people have similar positions to Santorum on this issue, they will not risk voting for him over Romney, and risk the general election. As far as your question does the majority support the Gay agenda or not. I am hearing it is not high on people’s lists of concerns. National security and the ability to put food on the table are main concerns.
People remember his botched performances in his first couple debates. First impressions are hard to undo, and people want a candidate that debate the pants off Obama and make Obama defend HIS record and be held accountable.
Apparently, conservatives don’t want executive experience or a solid background in actually doing conservative things. They want talkers who say all the right things (Bachmann, Cain, now Santorum), not actual doers. It’s a shame.
past performance does count
Go Santorum! When the Newt and Perry supporters have to find another candidate, Rick should beat Romney handily across the south.
I believe Gingrich has the better chance to beat Romney.
South Carolina and Florida will decide the fate of conservatives. Whoever comes out stronger or pulls off a win in those two states will be the person to take on Romney.
I believe Gingrich is politically savvy enough to understand this and drop out if he loses....I do not think Santorum will drop out if he loses. If they both stay in...Romney wins and there is no calculus that will see a conservative nominated. Only wishful thinking.
All eyes on SC/Fl...NH is meaningless...I hope Gingrich leaves early for SC.
Yes yes of course, Santorum who is at 24% should drop out so that the guy trailing him by 8 points can beat Romney?
Have you met my friend “logic?”
You just need to wait for the debate. Newt will win it again.
Mitt Romney = Obama without the tan.
Did DeMint endorse Romney again?
Your Tagline is spot on.