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[RaceBannon]

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[ecinkc]

Yeah, I always wonder what sorts tactics lawyers can get away with for the sake of their guilty clients and still not be complicit. It seems like attorney-client privilege covers a multitude of sins committed by lawyers.

Along those lines, I took the time today to re-read Jablonski’s Motion to Quash Subpoenas. What really grabs my eye about that document is the lawyer’s use of terminology in describing the certified copy of Obama’s original long-form birth certificate sought by the plaintiff.

In general Jablonski merely refers vaguely to “documents” sought. In at least one occasion he uses the the plural word “documents” and the later back references them incorrectly with the singular pronoun “it.” Grammatical errors like that are sometimes the result of changing out the antecedent as an after thought. “Instead of ‘Birth Certificate’, let’s just say ‘documents’”.

Reading the Motion to Quash leaves me imagining Jablonski and advisers having numerous exchanges like, “Well we can’t say ‘my client’s certified Certificate of Live Birth’ in that sentence.” and “Let’s just say ‘evidencing his birth’ instead of ‘proves he was a born a citizen of the U.S.’”.

When Jablonski finally does employ the term “birth certificate”, he uses it this way: “The birth certificates made available to the public prove citizenship.” To my biased, skeptical eyes, the cloudiness of that statement screams for attention. Wouldn’t it be more natural and more pointed to say, “My client released his official birth certificate on both a campaign web site and on the White House website, both of which prove he was born a US citizen in Hawaii in 1961.”

Or how about Jablosnki’s phrase, “a copy of the birth record informally known as the ‘long form’”? To me, that too sounds a little like evasive speech.

I’m open to the possibility that I’m just being too picky and making a mountain out of a mole hill, but when I see sneaky sounding verbiage in a document like this, it makes me think that the lawyer is fully aware that what he wants people to think he means is quite a bit different from what he really means.

At what (if any) point does language that is carefully crafted to be perhaps technically true but intentionally misleading cross over the line into perpetrating Fraud upon the Court or suborning perjury?

It reminds me of the rumor circulated here and elsewhere that Obama was counseled not to even touch the document placed on the White House site. Is there any accountability for lawyers whose tactics go beyond posturing and plunge well deep into intentional deception?

Anyway, if some of you linguistically inclined critical thinkers or lawyers out there are curious about this, it might be worth your time to read through the Motion to Quash with a sharp eye to parse and identify any evasiveness and deception techniques. And please tell me if my bias has led me to merely make much ado about nothing.

[Seizethecarp]

My impression is that Bauer has gone back to his role as Obama’s personal attorney and in that role is taking the lead in defending Obama against identity and eligibility challenges...while being protected by attorney-client privilege to a much greater extent that he was as White House Counsel (a federal employee).

Here is the NY Times coverage of the announcement:

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/06/02/bauer-to-step-down-as-white-house-counsel/

June 2, 2011, 12:24 pm
Bauer to Step Down as White House Counsel

By JACKIE CALMES

The White House counsel, Robert F. Bauer, will return to private practice at the end of June and resume his role as lawyer for the Democratic Party and Mr. Obama’s re-election campaign, President Obama announced on Thursday. Mr. Bauer will replaced by the deputy presidential counsel, Kathryn Ruemmler.

“Bob was a critical member of the White House team,” Mr. Obama said in a statement. “He has exceptional judgment, wisdom and intellect, and he will continue to be one of my close advisers.”

Mr. Bauer, who will go back to the law firm Perkins Coie, will also be Mr. Obama’s personal lawyer.

[Obama Exposer]

The Fogbow posters are now claiming that Brian Kemp, the Georgia Sec of State was provided through backroom channels a certified state issued COLB from Hawaii this past friday through team Obama. Their is a Fogbow posting attorney who has access to the Atlanta courthouse that was given this information by a courthouse insider. Who do we know that was at the hearings. I guess we will have to wait and see if this is true.

[Seizethecarp]

You are now famous on Fogbow because prominent lawyer (on the site anyway) “Butterfly Bilderberg” has adopted a quote from you on FR as her (proud) tag line! I am jealous.

See: http://www.thefogbow.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=88&t=6845&start=5625

[M]ost of the lawyer types argue (Incorrectly in my opinion) that if you are “born” a citizen, then you are a “natural born citizen.” This notion seems quite pervasive among the legal @ssholes i’ve argued with, and there is no reason to think that it isn't a ubiquitous belief among lawyer types including sitting Federal judges. - DiogenesLamp, posting at Free Republic

[freepersup]

Some observations & questions:

The SOS office isn’t the Court.

I would think that if the SOS were to be contacted, he would immediately notify the judge and report the action.

Seems like an unethical step, a bit like approaching a witness outside the courtroom in order to influence.

Are the Atlanta Courthouse records available on line?

If something were to be entered ‘back channel’ would it become a part of a filing (for lack of a better term?)

Whose entering the evidence into the record, the SOS?

If so, is this procedurally correct and therefore acceptable to the Court?

Where’s the proof of service to each of the Plaintiffs?

I’m claiming BS, but with a usurper as defendant maybe not.

[Fantasywriter]

BD, thanks for the ping. What a pathetic person Bryan is. I feel sorry for him. He’s mean, yes, but pathetic too.

Bp, your research is just amazing. Wow. So you’re telling me Bryan is a typical Befogger: morally challenged and mentally tenuous. Why am I not surprised?

[freepersup]

Shifting my train of thought to whether this particular move is an attempt to make it an issue between just the SOS and the candidate. Nothing judicial. Just a candidate going about proving his qualifications. Ya’ wanna’ see my creds.? Here ya’ go. Suckers. Insert content whistling figure here > <. Their big chess move. A gotcha moment. See, I told ya’ I was qualified. Fools. Birthers. Racists. Nutburgers.

[bushpilot1]

A freeper wishing to remain anon. located the file.

[Fantasywriter]

Thanks for the clarification. You’re still an amazing researcher, though. I’ve seen enough of your material on the NBC issue to say that for sure. :)

[rolling_stone]

The Fogbow posters are now claiming that Brian Kemp, the Georgia Sec of State was provided through backroom channels a certified state issued COLB from Hawaii this past friday through team Obama. Their is a Fogbow posting attorney who has access to the Atlanta courthouse that was given this information by a courthouse insider. Who do we know that was at the hearings. I guess we will have to wait and see if this is true.

THEN IT AND ANY ACCOMPANYING DOCUMENTS NEED TO BE REQUESTED THROUGHT THE GEORGIA PUBLIC RECORDS ACT: http://www.sos.ga.gov/archives/who_are_we/rims/best_practices_resources/open_records_act.htm#50-18-70

[rolling_stone]

IMO someone should ask to inspect it also...

[Danae]

Ain’t FOIA GRAND???? ;)

[Danae]

Was Bauer really so effective in the past? So much so his apparent ‘dissappearance’ is so obvious? Who wants him out of the way and why? Is it time to let go a lost cause finally? If Bob was the one holding it together ... interesting that he should jump ship now isn’t it?

Minor is a MASSIVE problem. So much so they bought themselves a legal website to help erase it long before the 08 election...

These are not lightweights. This is no skip in the playground.

[Flotsam_Jetsome]

Yeah, I’d read that stuff about this guy last year. Thanks for the Ping!

This thread merited re-visiting; I had thought it tapped out after about 1,164 comments (of which I read all), but there’s been some more good material added since then.

[Flotsam_Jetsome]

"I’m open to the possibility that I’m just being too picky and making a mountain out of a mole hill, but when I see sneaky sounding verbiage in a document like this, it makes me think that the lawyer is fully aware that what he wants people to think he means is quite a bit different from what he really means."

You're not making a mountain out of a mole hill. Lawyers as a rule weigh each and every word very carefully when preparing a written legal statement of any kind.

I actually commented on this parsing of words a ways back on comment #122 of this behemoth of a thread. Your analysis was much more thorough than mine, however. Kudos.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2837825/posts?page=122#122

[Flotsam_Jetsome]

"He’s mean, yes, but pathetic too."

Nassty Hobbittsses!

[WhirlwindAttack]

bump

[bushpilot1]

We know this information was on the web and posted previously on FR. This time we have a direct link he’s the nut from Fogbow known as Foggy who trolls this site. He was recently banned - BladeBryan.

Thanks to the NBC local interview for confirming. We have a match.

His fanatical attacks deserved a response. We showed the chief Obot is a mental case and drug abuser.

Can a confirmed maniac tell the difference between a birth certificate and a duck?

Team Obama has rounded up idiots to confirm he’s a valid President. Foggy is one of them.

[JohnnyP]

I’ve been reading their thread on this case. Such nice people./s

[freema]

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