Lincoln bishop: prepare for 'suffering' under HHS mandate

Catholic News Agency ^ | January 26, 2012 | The Most Reverend Fabian W. Bruskewitz

[Salvation]

The dimocrats put a plank on totally supporting abortion into their platform. The Bishops have spoken out ever since then. I even have the links of Bishops urging Catholics not to vote for Obama.

I just think too many people wanted to see a black man as president. Too bad that they chose a baby killer.

[Linda Frances]

After going to catholic grade and high school, I left when the church would let pro abortion, progay candidates speak at there facilitates and let them have communion...I’m happy to see them put their beliefs above politics.

[taildragger]

Rebellion against evil tyrants is good for the soul! Disobedience to tyrants is obedience to God!!

Jim, reading the post tonight something is brewing people are beyond ticked on so many fronts.

[Salvation]

Ha!

[Salvation]

**Am I mistaken, or didn’t most of the Bishops support Obamacare?**

Not enough of them spoke out, but they did not want Obortion O to be president, let alone have Obamacare.

What is the one church that has stood against
contraception,
Euthanasia,
Abortion,
Same sex marriage,
Embronic stem cell research

And is still standing and will continue to oppose these policies? The Catholic Church.....why do you think the media and the dims hate the Catholic Church so much?

[Salvation]

Campion put a post on another thread about a bishop. Sibellius has been excommunicated by her bishop.

[Salvation]

What about the other denominations that were fooled, as you say?

Catholics hear anti-Obama letter in church (Some idiots wanted "change" so they got it)
Has Obama Lost the Catholic Left?

Obama won the overall religious vote, 52 percent to 46 percent, reversing President George W. Bush’s 51 percent to 48 percent “values voter” victory over Democratic challenger Sen. John Kerry in 2004. Obama also won the Catholic vote, persuaded young evangelical voters to choose him and began to squeeze shut the so-called “God gap” yawning between religious Democrats and Republicans during the Bush era.

How will the roughly 9.1 million evangelical Christians who voted for Obama vote in the next election? Will Obama's actions compel the 31.2 million evangelicals who didn't vote in the 2008 election to vote next time?

Obama Receives 77% of Jewish Vote-- More Than Kerry
White US Catholics move toward GOP, Hispanic Catholics toward Democrats
Among Catholics, Obama job approval rating decreases to 50 percent

[Salvation]

Obama won't have the support from many denominations that he had previously.

50 percent of Catholics (Catholics make up about 22 percent of the U.S. population.) approve of his presidency, down from 67 percent in his first six months in office.

DOWN 17 POINTS

 

among non-Catholic Christians, who make up 55 percent of the U.S. population, had fallen from 58 percent to 43 percent.

DOWN 15 POINTS

 

Mormon respondents, who represent about two percent of U.S. adults, fell from 43 percent to 26 percent

DOWN 17 POINTS

 

About 78 percent of Muslim respondents approved of the Obama presidency, down eight percentage points from when the question was first asked.  (86)

DOWN 8 POINTS

 

atheists, agnostics, and members of other non-Christian religions, who comprise about 13 percent of the U.S. population -- While about 75 percent of these respondents approved of President Obama at the start of his term, their approval declined to about 64 percent.

DOWN 11 POINTS

 

Jews were the religious group third likeliest to approve of President Obama, giving him 61 percent approval. This too is a decline: in January-June 2009, their approval rating of the president was 77 percent.

DOWN 16 POINTS

 

Overall, 48 percent of Americans approve of President Obama’s job, down from 63 percent in the first months of his presidency. Gallup claims that its survey of over 276,000 adults claims an overall margin of error of plus or minus one percent.

DOWN 15 POINTS

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[Notary Sojac]

So where were ya all those years that Fat Teddy and then San Fran Nan were pushin' this stuff, Bish?

Were you giving them communnion and giving them a free pass in the booth??

Huh, Bish???

What about it????

[redgolum]

He is right. The question is if the Church will see this through, or duck out once the tax exempt status is threatend.

[campaignPete R-CT]

If I went to morning Mass in Tampa tomorrow morning and the celebrant asked, “anybody who voted yesterday in the primary, raise your hand”, a majority would not raise their hands.

And the Sunday morning crowd is a different group entirely. (And then there are the 50% who show up once per month or less often.)

[ardara]

And New York’s Archbishop Dolan is still trying to figure out what to do. I hope he comes to a conclusion soon.

[Gumdrop]

This particular Bishop has ALWAYS BEEN VERY PRO-LIFE. I really do not think he would have voted for Obama. He’s a “John Paul II Priest and Bishop” [which is Catholic code for a true traditional, orthodox, Catholic prelate].

[bunkerhill7]

Obummer violates the Constitutions of the Several States:

Excerpts from Constitutions of The Several States:

New York State Constitution 1777:

``this convention doth further, in the name and by the authority of the good people of this State, ordain, determine, and declare, that the free exercise and enjoyment of religious profession and worship, without discrimination or preference, shall forever hereafter be allowed, within this State, to all mankind: Provided, That the LIBERTY OF CONSCIENCE, hereby granted, shall not be so construed as to excuse acts of licentiousness, or justify practices inconsistent with the peace or safety of this State.

www.nhinet.org/ccs/docs/ny-1777.htm

Vermont Constitution:

Article 3rd. Freedom in religion; right and duty of religious worship

That all persons have a natural and unalienable right, to worship Almighty God, according to the DICTATES OF THEIR OWN CONSCIENCES and understandings, as in their opinion shall be regulated by the word of God; and that no person ought to, or of right can be compelled to attend any religious worship, or erect or support any place of worship, or maintain any minister, contrary to the dictates of conscience, nor can any person be justly deprived or abridged of any civil right as a citizen, on account of religious sentiments, or peculiar mode of religious worship; and that no authority can, or ought to be vested in, or assumed by, any power whatever, that shall in any case interfere with, or in any manner control the RIGHTS OF CONSCIENCE, in the free exercise of religious worship

New Hampshire Constitution 1784:

IV. Among the natural rights, some are in their very nature unalienable, because no equivalent can be given or received for them. Of this kind are the RIGHTS OF CONSCIENCE.

V. Every individual has a natural and unalienable right to worship GOD according to the dictates of his own conscience, and reason; and no subject shall be hurt, molested, or restrained in his person, liberty or estate for worshipping GOD, in the manner and season most agreeable to the dictates of his own conscience, or for his religious profession, sentiments or persuasion; provided he doth not disturb the public peace, or disturb others, in their religious worship.

Massachusetts Constitution 1780:

Art. II. It is the right as well as the duty of all men in society, publicly and at stated seasons, to worship the Supreme Being, the great Creator and Preserver of the universe. And no subject shall be hurt, molested, or restrained, in his person, liberty, or estate, for worshipping God in the manner and season most agreeable to the dictates of his own conscience, or for his religious profession or sentiments, provided he doth not disturb the public peace or obstruct others in their religious worship.

[ex post facto laws illegal]:

Art. XXIV. Laws made to punish for actions done before the existence of such laws, and which have not been declared crimes by preceding laws, are unjust, oppressive, and inconsistent with the fundamental principles of a free government.

And every denomination of Christians, demeaning themselves peaceably and as good subjects of the commonwealth, shall be equally under the protection of the law; and no subordination of any sect or denomination to another shall ever be established by law.

[JoeFromSidney]

Yes, some of us will be martyrs. However, we'll definitely take a few with us. It won't be like the Christians under the Roman Empire. Or in the Soviet Union.

[MarkL]

So, where is the ACLU screaming about separation of Church and State?

The Constitution was written to protect religions FROM the state. How else would it be possible for states to have official religions at the time the Constitution was ratified?

The problem is that the Obama regime sees both religion and the Constitution as barriers to their plan to enslave all of us. And Sebilius sees abortion not just as a form of birth control, but a sacrament. One of her biggest supporters when she held state office was “Tiller the Killer.”

Mark

[the invisib1e hand]

sorry, I just don't like the way the bishops are all reading the same fax.

were the dickens were they when we were calling on them to speak about obamacare before it was a law.

Now they're all singing in harmony like watchmen...except the door was kicked in two years ago.

[The Shrew]

It’s bad for us that we can’t get someone decent to ram all of this, oh wait we did but the establishment attacked him and destroyed him

And they were Catholic too!

TS

[the invisib1e hand]

However, we'll definitely take a few with us.

There's a difference, I think, between a martyr and a soldier.

[stevio]

And being Catholic, a good number of them will still vote dem.