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When you compare the negative impact of what Santorum or Gingrich endorsements and support had on political races, Rick is the one that helped Specter put ObomneyCare around every American's neck.




1 posted on 02/08/2012 3:37:35 PM PST by red flanker
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To: red flanker; mickie

This has been a big problem for me for a long time...


2 posted on 02/08/2012 3:42:05 PM PST by MVV (Proud USMC Mom!!)
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To: red flanker

Can you say Supreme Court Justices Roberts and Alito, which Specter pushed through as part of the deal with Santorum?


3 posted on 02/08/2012 3:42:29 PM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: red flanker

Here come the media attacks..

I’m from Pa. And no one was more p.O.’d than me over Toomey not being elected sooner. But you know what? He’s there now. I’m over it. Santorum also sided with unions on right to work legislation back then. You know what? I’m over it. This state has a large blue collar work force. Right to work or not...we have a lot more unemployed than we did in 2008.

If that is the best they can come up with...just sayin.


4 posted on 02/08/2012 3:42:38 PM PST by SueRae (I can see November from my HOUSE!!!!!!!! 11.06.2012, the Tower of Sauron falls,)
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I’m trying not to laugh that they somehow believe those two situations are equal. I am VERY sure that Romney endorsed a whole lot of bad apples. Why don’t they list those?


5 posted on 02/08/2012 3:42:59 PM PST by marstegreg
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To: red flanker

and Toomey gave us gays in the military


6 posted on 02/08/2012 3:43:13 PM PST by ari-freedom
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Hey, RomneyBOT. Get it straight. OBAMACARE=ROMNEYCARE.

IS THIS THE GREATEST MOMENT IN AMERICAN CONSERVATISM?

YOU ARE THERE

THE IMPOSITION OF OBAMACARE/ROMNEYCARE
AND DEATH PANELS BY MYTH ROMNEY


7 posted on 02/08/2012 3:45:17 PM PST by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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You are exactly right. And if you read the excerpts from Catch The Flag - A diary of presidential impeachment - you will see that Sanctimonium and Trent Lott were best friends in selling out the House republicans... and blocking their strategy that might very well have been successful...

But mostly, because of Sanctimonium et al - the Women never got to speak... and things in this country might be vastly different now. No, Rick, some of us don’t forget. I’m just learning the history now, and I know I won’t ever forget.

http://freedomist.com/2012/01/santorum-kills-impeachment-proceeding-against-bill-clinton-conservative-purity-in-name-only-exposed/


10 posted on 02/08/2012 3:47:21 PM PST by true believer forever (Save the Irish Setters - Vote Newt!)
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Lot's of people endorsed Spector over the years even though he was originally a Philly Rat. This whole argument that an endorsement 6 years before a vote on legislation can be connected is irrational.


12 posted on 02/08/2012 3:50:12 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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I’ve long sense learned that endorsements don’t mean jack around here. Palin endorsed McCain, and folks couldn’t have cared less. Her radio spot for him ran for over four months non-stop on the top two talk radio stations in the state.

I would like to hear Santorum’s reasoning behind the endorsement, and even an apology if the reasoning was as unsound as it seems to be.


13 posted on 02/08/2012 3:50:12 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Abortion? No. Gov't heath care? No. Gore on warming? No. McCain on immigration? No.)
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Weak Romney hit piece arriving at gate 4. Romneycare was the template for Obamacare. Newt advocated government mandated healthcare. We can thank Santorum for Justices Alito & Roberts. We can thank Toomey for gays now serving openly in the military and the soon to be announced gay weddings officiated by military Chaplin's.
14 posted on 02/08/2012 3:51:37 PM PST by FresnoRobert (When born, you cried and the world rejoiced. Live your life so that when you die, it's reversed.)
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Mad at Santorum over Specter? What Would Reagan Do?
By Chet Arthur

What would President Reagan do if he had had a good conservative challenging Sen. Arlen Specter in a primary in Pennsylvania?  Former Sen. Rick Santorum is taking a lot of heat in his presidential campaign for backing the RINO Specter over true-blue conservative Pat Toomey in 2004.  We need more conservatives like Ronald Reagan. 

I agree.  But let’s remember what Reagan actually did.  In 1982, Sen. Lowell Weicker (R-Conn.) faced a possible challenge from Prescott Bush, Jr., elder brother of Reagan’s vice president.  “God himself could not keep me from challenging Lowell Weicker,” the Bush brother said.  But when the convention rolled around, Mr. Bush was obviously listening to someone else.  He dropped his challenge.

President Reagan came to New Haven that year and spoke to 10,000 Knights of Columbus.  Weicker was on stage with him.  The president, Sen. Weicker, and I were perhaps the only three “Prots” in the hall.  I was then working for a state pro-life group backed by the Catholic Church.  When the host announced from the podium that Sen. Weicker would be flying back to Washington on Air Force One with the president, there were boos and catcalls.  The announcer spoke over this disruption.  “The president will be dropping Sen. Weicker off in the capital,” he said with authority.

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/01/mad_at_santorum_over_specter_what_would_reagan_do.html#ixzz1lpwVZkO5


19 posted on 02/08/2012 3:55:09 PM PST by Linda Frances (Only God can change a heart, but we can pray for hearts to be changed.)
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Yes, it was a stupid decision for political reasons. Not as bad as Romney-Care, but close. What you are probably saying is that none of the GOP folks running is worth a hoot (except as a counter to Obama) - and certainly does not generate any enthusiasm.

Go GOP...yeah, yeah...


20 posted on 02/08/2012 3:56:08 PM PST by Deagle
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To: red flanker
And so it begins.....

Stand firm Rick!

21 posted on 02/08/2012 3:56:28 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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that’s a heck of a stretch. Specter, was a bum, but this straw man just plain stinks.


26 posted on 02/08/2012 4:02:11 PM PST by stylin19a (time to Obamanos)
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When you compare the negative impact of what Santorum or Gingrich endorsements and support had on political races, Rick is the one that helped Specter put ObomneyCare around every American's neck.

Anyone but that socialist pig Romney!

27 posted on 02/08/2012 4:04:18 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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The rule of unintended consequences. Arlen Specter was running under the colors of the Republican party, and the big push is “go along to get along” among the Republican establishment. The establishment knew Specter was not a reliable conservative vote, they didn’t care, and there was probably more than a little pressure on Santorum to retain the seniority thing for Specter, as that was how the individual states were supposed to gain and retain clout on a national basis.

Seniority is a myth, an illegitimate award for time served, not for merit in any special expertise. Robert Byrd and Tedious Kennedy were examples of that end result, both having remained far beyond their range of capabilities and more like some musty example from the British Parliament’s House of Lords.

“But if Arlen Specter had to give up his seat, he would lose all that seniority!” The Establishment pulled out all the stops to assure that Specter could keep his precious seniority.

In the end, a bad trade, as Specter defected anyway.


31 posted on 02/08/2012 4:06:43 PM PST by alloysteel (Are Democrats truly "better angels"? They are lousy stewards for America.)
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To: red flanker

Romney voted for Paul Tsongas instead of the Republican.


33 posted on 02/08/2012 4:10:33 PM PST by mtnwmn (Liberalism leads to Socialism)
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ObamaCare was NOT on the scene at the time, so Santorum is not to blame here. Sorry! Specter was not a conservative, but the three judges he got through the judiciary committee might not have made it without him. That is the honest truth. He was, as the judiciary committee chairman, relentless in taking up for the three excellent judges, knocking down the democratic machine to take them out of consideration. Today we benefit from their presence on the court. Had they not made it through, and Bush nominated lesser men/women for the positions, we’d be in a world of hurt. True, they are not always the majority, but we’d have no chance of a majority otherwise. If we take back the WH, we might have a couple more in the next 4 years. But, now I would think, given the treatment that Santorum received in exchange, that he is a bit wiser. Nobody is perfect, and we all learn from the mistakes we make, hopefully. Santorum was one of the conservatives that helped to get Newt’s Contract with America passed. Newt made mistakes, so did Santorum. I like Newt’s fighter instinct, but I’m seeing a renewed Santorum coming alive right now so this is getting interesting! May the better man win.


34 posted on 02/08/2012 4:13:10 PM PST by Shery (in APO Land)
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It’s water under the dam. Get over it.

No candidate is perfect. Certainly not the alternatives.


38 posted on 02/08/2012 4:18:52 PM PST by bigbob
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So you are pressing this attack for who, willard or noot???? Which is it Red, since we know paul is not going to win spit.
44 posted on 02/08/2012 4:26:30 PM PST by org.whodat (Sorry bill, I should never have made all those jokes about you and Lewinsky, have fun.)
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