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'If y'all come to get me, bring body bags,' [that's how it appeared in the print edition][link only]
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Posted on 03/30/2012 6:35:44 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2012/03/29/20120329texas-sovereign-citizens-continue-year-standoff.html


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: dissent; extremist; paranoia
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To: the invisib1e hand
'We will live free or you will die': Meet the gun-loving, God-fearing family who shun modern life
21 posted on 03/30/2012 7:33:04 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Grey holds the Quran, which he later burned

Gray is wanted by Texas authorities for allegedly assaulting a police officer. During an altercation at a traffic stop, he allegedly tried to take a state trooper's pistol and bit him.

But Gray, a deeply devout Christian, was already well-known to law enforcement by then for his different -- even extreme -- views of government. He believes government has taken away too many of his God-given rights.

"I've put out literature about the new world order and what's going on," Gray said in an interview with ABC News in 2000. "And I've done that for years down there. And I think I upset a few people. They didn't like it."

Authorities believe Gray might be capable of acting on those views.

22 posted on 03/30/2012 7:34:47 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

“Bit” the trooper?

That sounds a bit wacky. Maybe the state wants him tested for rabies now.


23 posted on 03/30/2012 7:36:59 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: the invisib1e hand
The sovereign movement, estimated by the Southern Poverty Law Center to number 100,000 ardent followers and about 200,000 sympathizers across the country,

Southern Poverty Law Center pushes this kind of story every so often, especially before election time.

24 posted on 03/30/2012 7:40:45 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Maybe the state wants him tested for rabies now.

Don't think so.

I'm more confident they want his assets, land and anything else they can confiscate.

It's what government does as a matter of routine.

25 posted on 03/30/2012 7:43:18 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
He believes government has taken away too many of his God-given rights

"Might be capable of acting on those views"...??

He's gonna run for Governor?? I'd vote for him. lol.

26 posted on 03/30/2012 7:46:25 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: dragnet2

No Wiki page about this guy?

That’s pretty well under the radar.


27 posted on 03/30/2012 7:48:33 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: the invisib1e hand

This is a total distraction attempt.

btw
http://www.embassyofheaven.com/current/johnjoe.htm


28 posted on 03/30/2012 7:49:52 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: dragnet2

Just kidding about the rabies of course.

A lot of folks, not everybody by any means, would look at this guy and say “dangerous kook, but as long as he stays where he is he can’t harm very much.” Others would sympathize, including a whole lot of freepers. And who knows what the local sheriff wants. That might be someone with integrity or it might be another Buford T. Justice type.


29 posted on 03/30/2012 7:50:04 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: dragnet2
More power to him. He doesn't want to hurt anyone, he just wants to be left alone.

Authorities believe Gray might be capable of acting on those views

Well he hasn't bothered anyone for years, which is more than can be said for the new black pampers putting out hits on citizens. Stupid media propaganda. "crazy Christian alert!"
30 posted on 03/30/2012 7:50:32 PM PDT by mrsmel
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To: the invisib1e hand

Brings to mind the “Chicken Man” in Georgia. He caught hell and harassment for raising chickens on his property from the “law”.

He finally had enough; was facing foreclosure (I don’t know all the details) and just the other day, blew his house up.

He was the only one hurt.

More of these “statements” are going to be made.

Obama puts restrictions on public pools for wheelchair access?
He doesn’t give two sh*ts for people-—he wants little poor black/white/hispanic children to burn in the heat of the summer with no relief so that riots start.
This is his plan.

This pervert will have blood on his hands.


31 posted on 03/30/2012 7:52:42 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: smokingfrog

http://sovereign-citizenship.net/home.html


32 posted on 03/30/2012 7:53:13 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: GeronL
The only ‘bunker’ on the property is for the seven children. It is clearly marked with a large red sign stating "kids." This has been done to protect the children so than none will be killed. The 10 adults plan on staying above ground and defending the property. John Joe Gray has stated that he will protect his property unto death and that his back has been pushed against the wall."

Interesting link.

33 posted on 03/30/2012 7:54:38 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Why does anyone care what theses people do on their own compound?


34 posted on 03/30/2012 7:55:22 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: dragnet2

I think he’d make a good Governor. lol.


35 posted on 03/30/2012 8:02:07 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Monorprise

As long as children aren’t being abused, I don’t see why there is a problem


36 posted on 03/30/2012 8:03:38 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: dragnet2

I imagine there’s a few like him, but this is what the islamist, jihad’s have been practicing for years and now we are at a crossroads...do we act like them or do we war against them...I say we stand for what is right and true to the Only God and press on!


37 posted on 03/30/2012 8:06:21 PM PDT by hope
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To: Monorprise
Heck, even the use of the word "compound" is somewhat prejudicial. A guy's got a nice house on some property where he and his family can live on their own and it's a "compound"? That word is used by the government so that when they raid it with pseudo-military armored vehicles and snipe the inhabitants, all of the sheep in the US will just shut their eyes and think "Well, after all, it wasn't like it was just somebody's home, it was a compound."

Quite frankly, we should have been rioting after Ruby Ridge and Waco. Because we didn't, the government has gotten bolder and more oppressive, and the average LEOs have even more militarized hardware.
38 posted on 03/30/2012 8:10:42 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: Repeat Offender

“When you ain’t got nothin’, you got nothin’ to lose.”
- Bob Dylan (’Like A Rolling Stone’)


39 posted on 03/30/2012 8:13:08 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: hope
but this is what the islamist, jihad’s have been practicing for years and now

Hmmm

40 posted on 03/30/2012 8:16:02 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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