“But that he is one?...put your lazy mind into gear and prove it.”
Ok, challenge accepted. To Muslims, the defining point of whether someone is a Muslim or not is whether they have taken “shahada”, or made a public proclamation of faith in Allah and his prophet, Muhammed. In March, 2007, in an interview with Nicholas Kristof of the New York Times, this took place:
“Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent.”
http://www.webcitation.org/mainframe.php
Now, what are the opening lines of the call to prayer (the Adhan)? They are:
“Allah is greater. I testify that there is no deity except Allah. I testify that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah.”
The simple form of the “shahada” profession of faith is:
“There is no god but Allah, and Muhammad is the messenger of Allah.”
So, the opening lines of the call to prayer ARE a form of the shahada, and by reciting them publicly, Obama fulfilled the basic requirement to become a Muslim, if he had not done so before that time.
Hmmm. You get my “learned something new” award for the day, maybe for the week. Didn’t know that.
Boogieman: Ok, challenge accepted. To Muslims, the defining point of whether someone is a Muslim or not is whether they have taken “shahada”, or made a public proclamation of faith in Allah and his prophet, Muhammed. In March, 2007, in an interview with Nicholas Kristof of the New York Times, this took place: “Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent.” http://www.webcitation.org/mainframe.php Now, what are the opening lines of the call to prayer (the Adhan)? They are: “Allah is greater. I testify that there is no deity except Allah. I testify that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah.” The simple form of the “shahada” profession of faith is: “There is no god but Allah, and Muhammad is the messenger of Allah.” So, the opening lines of the call to prayer ARE a form of the shahada, and by reciting them publicly, Obama fulfilled the basic requirement to become a Muslim, if he had not done so before that time.
Thank you, Boogieman! You have raised my spirits that we have more thinking (& discerning) FREEPERs in our midst than I give credit for!
This would be what I call "Grade A" type of evidence that Obama is indeed, a "closet" Muslim. Do we need more evidence than this? (I would say "yes")
But is this a solid foundation upon which to build such a case?
Yes. An excellent find...and one I wish that it had not taken a challenge by me to be reinvigorated as a reference on FR.
What do I mean by "reinvigorated?" Well, FREEPERS have gotten rather lazy since '09 ... dropping hints & intimating that Obama is a "closet" Muslim without iacking it up with documentation.
Well I went to Google and entered:
Shadada "Free Republic" Obama
as a search: Result: Shahada & Obama google search
I looked @ the first 100 Google hits, looking for FR threads...such threads built around this theme occurred about a dozen times or so within those 100 hits...The problem is that just about all of them were FR threads from 2008 and 2009.
So, I invite all for people to review the following FR threads ... prompted by Boogieman's lead here:
* The Muslim Side of Obama [Posted June 3, 2009 by Former Farmer]
* Muammar Qadafi Acknowledges that Barack Hussein Obama is Muslim,/a> [Posted Oct. 6, 2008 by Hecht]
* Muslim Obama: ‘WILL STAND WITH MUSLIMS SHOULD POLITICAL WINDS SHIFT IN UGLY DIRECTION’ [Posted March 29, 2008 by OnRightOnLeftCoast]
* Obama's pro-Muslim words [Posted Nov. 23, 2009 by freedomyes]
* Obama's Five Pillars of ............ [Posted April 14, 2009 by TenthAmendmentChampion]
* David Limbaugh: Is Obama a Christian? [Posted Aug. 27, 2010 by markomalley]
* Connect all the dots on Barack Hussein Obama [Posted Oct. 10, 2008 by savvyguy]
* Barack Obama's Muslim Childhood [Posted April 29, 2008 by PaleoConservative]
* NY Times Pulls Kristof's Piece with Obama's Muslim Call to Prayer [Posted Sept. 8, 2008 by markedmannerf]
* Mideast leader: Obama a Muslim who studied in Islamic schools [Posted Oct. 17, 2008 by Texascajun]
* My Muslim President Obama (02.25.09) [Posted Feb. 25, 2012 by libstripper]
I commend the FREEPERs who posted these articles.
I ask the "hermetically sealed" crowd who wants to "protect" us from investigating the religious realities of POTUS candidates why they didn't come onto these threads above & call the freepers on the carpet for not keeping religion out [...oh, don't bother to answer...we know if you were FREEPERs in '08 & '09, you're just plain religious hypocrites]
Finally...if Obama's Muslim ties have been worth investigating...and then to find out how that intersects with his running the White House...then the same applies to Romney & Mormonism...
Just as Boogieman's excellent post prompted me to investigate more Obama's Muslim ties...so should my posts cause others to investigate the implications of a Mormon "prophet" controlled POTUS in the White House...