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Frank discussion re our loss to Obama/Romney and the future direction of FR and tea party movement
Click here to pledge your support! ^ | May 4, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 05/04/2012 6:31:27 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

My FRiends, we might as well face the reality that we the combined pro-life conservative movement and tea party coalition have lost this round (the presidential election) in the larger battle to reclaim our constitution and our inalienable rights. Rove, Romney and the GOP-e have successfully destroyed and driven off each and every pro-life conservative tea party candidate from the race and all have surrendered to the Romney camp. It is no secret that Romney is not one of us. There is absolutely no doubt that he has never accomplished a single conservative thing in his entire political career (one term as liberal governor of liberal Massachusetts and six years campaigning for president). In Massachusetts, he undeniably championed abortion, gay rights, global warming, gun control, big government statist mandated/socialized health care programs, liberal judges, TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending, debt limit increases, etc, and even though he's recently claimed a complete reversal in political beliefs and no longer despises pro-life conservatives or the time of Reagan-Bush, I still don't trust him. He still stubbornly holds on to some of his statist beliefs, like global warming, gays in the military, RomneyCare, stimulus spending, etc, so there is no way I can vote for him or join Cain, Perry, Bachmann, Newt or any others who are endorsing him. But I will not act on my prior promises that I would actively campaign against him if he wins the nomination. Our combined movement is already torn and splintered and is going to have to be mended if we're going to have any impact whatsoever against the liberal/progressives and statists after the election. To that end I propose a TRUCE among our conservative forces during the remainder of this election cycle.

We conservatives have already lost the presidency to either the Dems or the GOP-e, and if we tear the tea party apart, if we tear the pro-life movement apart, if we tear FR apart then we lose it all. It's far more important that we re-unite and live to fight another day. Even if we can't vote for a true conservative for the presidency, it's doubly important that we all turn out on election day or sooner and drag our friends, neighbors, relatives, co-workers, etc, to the polls to vote straight conservative for every slot on our ballots. The only way we can win our freedom back is to vote out the liberal progressives and vote in as many liberty loving conservatives as is humanly possible into every elected office at every level of government all across this great land. To prevent a total loss to the dems or GOP-e, we must continue the tea party rebellion into November and beyond. Whatever else you may do, you must turn out and vote straight tea party conservative down ticket!!

We must continue expanding our inroads into the state houses and into every elective office in the land. We must continue building on our majority in the house and we must retake the senate!! We must help the conservative governors and state legislatures to fully restore the ninth and tenth amendments and reclaim the real political power away from the federal usurpers and return it to the states and the people per the constitution!! This way, regardless of who wins the presidency, we can cut his unconstitutional expansionist movements off at the knees. And if any executive, civil officer or judge dares commit impeachable offenses, we must hold the majorities so we can impeach and remove them from office!!

And we must salvage and rebuild and continue strengthening our conservative pro-life, pro-family, pro-gun, pro-borders, pro-constitution, pro-small government, pro-defense, pro-liberty movements and our tea party coalition. And we must stop ripping each other apart!!

Therefore I hereby propose a general truce among our conservative forces!!

The Republic we save may be our own!!

As far as FR's finances go, we're in the same boat as the rest of the economy and will have to make do with what we can raise. Fortunately, the big debts we ran up a couple years ago have been paid off. We borrowed approx $20,000 a few years ago from two FReepers to fund our national convention, plus we ran up another $20,000 in legal fees during the last couple of years fighting off Righthaven. But those are now behind us and paid off. We also did quite a bit of traveling each year for the last three years on cross country tea party tours, but I think we can now cut that back and remove it from our budget requirements. If we're fortunate enough to not incur any additional legal costs or equipment costs (other than what we've already planned), and cut the travel and a few other areas, we should be able to tighten our belts enough to weather the storm even if we fail to reach our short term fundraising goals.

Whatever the outcome of the elections, we are prepared to roar into 2013 with the tea party chewing up liberal/progressives and RINOs and raising hell in our never ending fight for liberty!!

We are the resistance!!

Let's take the enemy head-on instead of fighting each other!!

Damn the torpedoes, full steam ahead!!


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To: Bikkuri

Thanks for the spell check.


1,261 posted on 05/05/2012 8:21:25 AM PDT by L,TOWM (Write in Chuck Norris for POTUS and tell the power brokers to FOAD.)
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To: mojitojoe

My alternative answer is in the post. I’m supporting the only conservative in the race, Virgil Goode.


1,262 posted on 05/05/2012 8:21:37 AM PDT by xzins (Vote Goode not Evil (the lesser of 2 evils is still evil))
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To: bert

RINO Tom Ridge was elected governor of this state twice without my vote.

Arlen Specter won four or five times without my vote.

Romney is the slow death and Obama the quicker way in a nation that is around 16 trillion dollars in the hole.

Paul Ryan in Congress doesn’t even envision a balanced budget for more than ten years.

Pat Toomey has a plan to do it in ten years with “loopholes” closed to increase taxes.

The two big parties are kicking the can down the road and their delay in arresting the debt will allow the bubble to burst.

I sort of think they know it and will use the “crisis” when it comes to bring in austerity measurers.

The D’s and R’s will do what the big Greek parties have done.

A “government of national unity” that will cut entitlements and raise our taxes at the same time.

There is no seriously conservative policy to quickly end budget defecits and stop the debt crisis.

ON THIS BIG ISSUE I SEE NEITHER SIDE IS REALLY SERIOUS ABOUT IT.

There is no reason to vote for either one of these guys because they aren’t serious about the BIG ISSUE.


1,263 posted on 05/05/2012 8:22:03 AM PDT by Nextrush (PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN IS MY DREAM)
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To: JRandomFreeper

We can vote for ABO. And we can get what WE think would be the most conservative Congress ever.

But in truth, we HAD that ...and it still didn’t get us anywhere.

This country needs a TOTAL overhaul, from the BOTTOM up. Conservatives - it’s time to take back your neighborhood, then your local district, then your city, your state, and from there on up.

We let things go for too long. This is where we’re at. If we want it back, we have to get in and run for dog catcher, and go from there.


1,264 posted on 05/05/2012 8:23:50 AM PDT by LibsRJerks
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To: HairOfTheDog

BRAVO!

You said what I have been TRYING to say and said it VERY well!

Needless to say, I couldn’t agree more!


1,265 posted on 05/05/2012 8:24:17 AM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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To: Jim Robinson



1,266 posted on 05/05/2012 8:24:38 AM PDT by papasmurf (I pledge to vote (R). How 'bout you?)
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To: Nextrush

Amen brother.

We’re in for a world of hurt whether it’s Obama or Romney.


1,267 posted on 05/05/2012 8:24:58 AM PDT by delapaz
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To: caww

I have no idea what you talking about and frankly don’t care.

Enjoy FR. What’s left of it.

Cheers and adieu,

knewshound


1,268 posted on 05/05/2012 8:26:17 AM PDT by knews_hound (It was good while it lasted.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

It must make you feel great being the ugliest, most hateful guy on this once-great forum at the very moment that ugliness and hatefulness are bringing it down.

Congratulations on your exemplary service to the collectivist cause, comrade.


1,269 posted on 05/05/2012 8:27:10 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: delapaz

I just took up residency in TX. I will be voting for Ron Paul in the primary.

Why? Because he is the only left in the race that isn’t the RINO-Romney. Yeah, he’s a nationalist-kook but maybe, just maybe, we can get a brokered convention.


1,270 posted on 05/05/2012 8:28:05 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
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To: volunbeer

Speaking for myself, I haven’t called anyone names for saying they’re going to vote for Romney in order to oust Obama. I actually understand that, in view of how desperately I want Obama out.

But it goes both ways. Some of us just cannot vote for Romney because of religious objections. Yet some on this site respond to that like liberals would. “Is Jesus talking to you now?” “Is God running for office?” Or with accusations of being self-righteous, pure, etc.

If you want one to end, you have to be willing to stop the other.


1,271 posted on 05/05/2012 8:29:04 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: Christie at the beach

Yet you probably voted for bush who along a Teddy Kennedy did no child left behind no?


1,272 posted on 05/05/2012 8:30:18 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Elsie
Last I heard; there is still something called the Confirmation Process.

Instead of being merely snide and condescending maybe you could say something intelligent and substantive about why you think the next Senate, even if it is GOP-led, will block Obama's judicial appointments. Please be sure to make reference to specific instances in the past where the GOP blocked prior liberal judicial appointments.

1,273 posted on 05/05/2012 8:33:45 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: LibsRJerks

Republicans never had a super majority Senate, and everything still had to accommodate Democrats too. That may be part the reason Bush got started on failed government stimulus like tax rebates, and his tax cuts weren’t big enough.


1,274 posted on 05/05/2012 8:34:29 AM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: WOSG

ON the other hand, last night, after going through about 3 pages of posted stories all of which were horribly sad “personal interest” stories, I was thinking I’d rather have seen another half-dozen Romney attack threads than see one more story about a mother stabbing her kid, or a wife burning her husband, or whatever the other sad stories were that I have now blocked out of my mind.


1,275 posted on 05/05/2012 8:37:10 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: johnthebaptistmoore

I think that if Virgil Goode and the Constitution Party do for Obama what Ralph Nader did for Bush in 2000 then the GOP-e will be far more likely to move left to replace conservatives rather than move right to win them back.


1,276 posted on 05/05/2012 8:38:30 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: rogue yam

Gore would have been potus without Nader in the race.

The idea that it is ok to give Obama a second term out of romeny hate is sheer madness IMHO.

Romney stinks and is a RINO, but he is not a communist zealot.


1,277 posted on 05/05/2012 8:41:32 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: rogue yam
Love you, too. Have a great Cinco de Mayo. Remember, it's a celebration about France getting their arses handed to them.

/johnny

1,278 posted on 05/05/2012 8:42:15 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Jim Robinson
I'm of the same mind Jim.

I will resists to may last breath knowingly giving any more support to evil - which I consider the gop-e to be.
I also consider those who attempt to coerce me to be in league with evil, but will ‘shake the dust of my sandals’ as I walk from their attempts.

Supporting what is right should always be our effort.

1,279 posted on 05/05/2012 8:43:04 AM PDT by plsjr (<>< ... HIS will be done! (http://NewSpring.cc/webservice - Biblical Nourishment))
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To: mojitojoe
I doubt any FReepers supported Romney in the primaries or will vote for him in the upcoming primaries.

There have been many Romney supporters on FR over the years but there has also been a concerted and ugly campaign to drive them away and silence them.

1,280 posted on 05/05/2012 8:44:36 AM PDT by rogue yam
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