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Voting for Romney (D-Mass.): The Worst Mistake a Conservative Could Make
Political Realities ^ | 7 Apr 12 | LD

Posted on 05/16/2012 2:51:31 PM PDT by xzins

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To: BamaBlue

and control both the House and Senate (60 votes),
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I wouldnt count on those 60 votes...

No matter who wins the WH ...

if the GOP take back the Senate several of the R senators are RINOs who wont be leaving for another 2, 4 years...

They wont be holding anyones feet to any fire either...


301 posted on 05/16/2012 10:04:57 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: Tennessee Nana; Jim Robinson

And one last thing...I believe Obama is pure evil...one of the most vile creatures to have ever walked the earth...and will do anything to retain power. WE can’t help him...

That’s why my position is what it is...I wish you and Jim would join me...even though I know your issues with Romeny.


302 posted on 05/16/2012 10:10:51 PM PDT by BamaBlue
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To: CharacterCounts

Great post! Thanks.


303 posted on 05/16/2012 10:16:58 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (The epitome of stupidity is a member of a proven racist sect running against a black man.)
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To: Deb
A difference of opinion shouldn't cause so much anger between allies and friends.

I will remember that you said that.

304 posted on 05/16/2012 10:26:57 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (The epitome of stupidity is a member of a proven racist sect running against a black man.)
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To: Deb; Jim Robinson

I don't know where your friends in Massachusetts are getting their information, Deb, but check out this Exclusive Interview with RomneyCare Author Jonathon Gruber wherein is stated:
Gruber says in the one face-to-face meeting he had with Romney, it was clear Romney had made the “final call.” Gruber tells me: “He was the champion of the plan. He really was the consummate management consultant.” And, Gruber says, the plan that passed and is now operating is not fundamentally different from the individual mandate plan that Romney “championed.”
He also asserts during the interview " ... the notion that the plan was hijacked by the Democratic-controlled legislature is simply not so ...".

You've been misinformed, Deb. Lied to. Romney is a stealth liberal. But don't take my word for it; do the research and pour through his history to discover this for yourself.


305 posted on 05/16/2012 10:35:12 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: vortigern
Maybe the VP choice will make a difference?

I guess you missed this article. Mitt doesn't intend to choose a VP who will have the guts to try and influence him.

Be sure to read post #18

306 posted on 05/16/2012 10:39:53 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (The epitome of stupidity is a member of a proven racist sect running against a black man.)
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To: luvbach1

He can't win if we don't vote for him. And if he doesn't win, 0 does.It's as simple as that. Romney is not my boy but he's not Obama.

So ... you are okay with a socialist-in-chief as long as your team gets to pick the socialist?


307 posted on 05/16/2012 10:43:00 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: Deb; Tennessee Nana
What are you talking about? Go eat a dog.

"A difference of opinion shouldn't cause so much anger between allies and friends." Deb

Post #257

308 posted on 05/16/2012 10:50:31 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (The epitome of stupidity is a member of a proven racist sect running against a black man.)
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To: Jim Robinson; Deb
"A difference of opinion shouldn't cause so much anger between allies and friends." Deb

Post #257


309 posted on 05/16/2012 10:52:58 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (The epitome of stupidity is a member of a proven racist sect running against a black man.)
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To: Deb

The Cat’s In The Kettle At The Peking Moon (google it, i’m too lazy to link)


310 posted on 05/16/2012 10:56:38 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: BamaBlue; Jim Robinson
I actually fear for the survival of this website because of the position that Jim has taken and the Jim Jones type followers that have sucked up to him.

That particular comment was completely uncalled for and you have been on this site long enough to know that.

311 posted on 05/16/2012 11:03:49 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (The epitome of stupidity is a member of a proven racist sect running against a black man.)
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To: vortigern

Agree totally with you -even to giving money to Newt & Cain. But that’s not how things turned out so will now vote ABO.


312 posted on 05/16/2012 11:03:49 PM PDT by Let's Roll (Save the world's best healthcare - REPEAL, DEFUND Obamacare!)
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To: vortigern

Agree totally with you -even to giving money to Newt & Cain. But that’s not how things turned out so will now vote ABO.


313 posted on 05/16/2012 11:03:53 PM PDT by Let's Roll (Save the world's best healthcare - REPEAL, DEFUND Obamacare!)
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To: xzins; Tony Snow; andrew

Among the electric cars Jay owns is the vintage Baker Electric -
The Baker Electric is his wife’s favorite car.

:o)

314 posted on 05/16/2012 11:25:30 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: xzins
On the Subject of Libertarianism

In my view, from a pro-life perspective, Libertarians are joined at the level of the corrupted heart with the Democrat Party, on the cruel belief that the innocent and defenseless child in the womb deserves No shield of compassion and mercy to protect it from the abortionist's knife. What an intense level of moral blindness they harbor, which allows them to reject out of hand, the golden rule, do unto others as you would have them do unto you. This is really a point of Atheism, where they deny that God is the Creator of that Life, and thus deny any responsibility for protecting it.

Make no mistake. To support the outright murder of the innocent in this life, will guarentee that when you are given an opportunity to re-embody, that you will suffer the terror of abortion yourself, as this alone is the only thing that can stamp upon your soul the truth, that abortion is the most unjust act in the universe. You will certainly believe that to the depth of your soul then when you have suffered it yourself. Don't tell anybody you were not warned.

Therefore, being joined at the level of the corrupted heart with the Democrat Party, the author of this article cannot be writing from wisdom, but from self-interest, and especially party interest only. It is a good thing that he has left the Republican Party, now if he would just take these other pro-abortionists with him, I would not complain.

At any rate, his wiewpoint is really cynical. Really Machiavellian, nearly every thought a streamer of disdain and mistrust, and yes, I read the whole article. So, I am not sure what I can take from it.

Is there anything in that article that is of any use to us? My rule of thumb, is that you can safely ignore anything an Atheist says, and as Libertarians appear to be integrated into that deep cavern of moral darkness, I think it might be safe to say that we would not err by simply ignoring the whole thing, even if he is making a case of the folly of voting for Romney.

Republicans don't need a Libertarian to tell them that Romney is ripping the very heart of the Republican Conscience, right out of the body of the Republican party.

Who has seen "The Matrix" movie series? Romney and his (pro-abortion) RomneyZombies are like the "Agent Smiths" who grab at Neo's heart to try to convert him into one of them. You would have to see it to get the connection.

Here, I found a You Tube Clip. This is a great action clip. The heart sequence is about 2:10 into the clip. See how Neo resists the taking over of his heart, yet he still has a battle to fight. Of course it is all allegory. The circle he draws around himself in the end, is an allegory for God. The moral of the story, is that while you must fight, you cannot win without the Power of God which you cannot access without obedience to His Laws. And yes, to surrender your purpose to the darkside, the purpose that God has placed in your heart, is to die.

The fact that the Republican Party is in this "Agent Smith" stampede to nominate a pro-abortionist itself, as committed as Obama to the slaughter of the unborn, that is enough for any principled person to refuse to vote for Willard M. Romney.

315 posted on 05/17/2012 12:56:13 AM PDT by GoldenEagles
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To: GeronL
Romney is not acceptable to many conservatives, if the only reason you can find to vote for him is that he is not Obama then that is simply not good enough.

It's good enough because Romney, not being Obama,he is better than Obama, the worst president in our history whose removal is imperative to the nation's survival.

Accusing those who do not like Romney of being part of the Obama campaign (remember those trueblue gluesniffers?) is insidious.

I don't accuse anyone of being part of the Obama campaign because they don't like Romney. I don't like Romney. I just dislike Obama much more.I'm simply saying that withholding a vote for Romney helps Obama. That should be beyond dispute.

I have said that 85% of freepers will probably end up voting for Romney. Why is that not good enough for you? Why do you insist that a socialist leftist get the suicidal imprimature of this conservative website?

Not insisting on anything, just stating the obvious: if Romney is not elected it's 4 more years of destruction by Obama and the "Progressives." I think Romney would be better than Obama so I'm suggesting that conservatives vote for him as the lesser of two evils (if that characterization makes anyone feel better).

You can vote how you like, none of us on this side are telling you how to vote, so why does your side feel that need?,p>

You can also vote as you like. What is "your side" going to do? Sit it out (helps Obama), vote for a write-in (helps Obama), vote for a third party (helps Obama), or vote for the Usurper himself?

316 posted on 05/17/2012 1:25:37 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: greyfoxx39

Oh ouch


317 posted on 05/17/2012 3:16:28 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: luvbach1

Sitting out does not help Obama.

Votes not cast are not counted for any candidate.


318 posted on 05/17/2012 5:10:32 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: xzins
They don't....they don't care one whit about you.

As regards the GOP, I don't know a single person who would offer so much as a token argument against that. Even in a high-school debate class. Anyone who still holds any hope that the GOP gives a hoot about constituents -- well, all I can say is that I admire their optimism!

I quit sending money to the GOP prior to the McCain fiasco. If I see a candidate I like, I'll help them directly. I've sent about 5 or so GOP begging letters back with nasty notes and think they may have finally taken the hint (haven't received one in awhile).

I'm fully on board with giving the GOP a run for their money, if not by winning hearts & minds fair & square, then by down & dirty political guile-ambush-backstabbing-gut-shooting. Either by overtaking them with a new *replacement* party or by infiltration/coup from within. I'll take any port in a storm.
319 posted on 05/17/2012 6:30:55 AM PDT by jaydee770
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To: GeronL
Sitting out does not help Obama. Votes not cast are not counted for any candidate.

You haven't thought this through.

Imagine there is a town with 11 voters and two candidates: R and D. According to polls, R is expected to win by 6-5. But when the vote is taken D wins by 5-4. Why? 2 of the Rs failed to vote. They sat it out.

320 posted on 05/17/2012 6:41:25 AM PDT by Blennos
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