Posted on 05/16/2012 2:51:31 PM PDT by xzins
Sitting out this one if you are a conservative helps Obama.Anyone agree?
ROTFLOL!
I think he was using that idea as a ploy to get people to consider Johnson. The author is a libertarian, and he clearly says at the outset of the article that he considers Obama a disaster.
It’s like me saying, “You have only 2 choices: Obama or Goode because Romney is so bad!”
What am I really saying there?
The republican party is a wasteland, Deb. Think about it. They use us and don’t pay anything.
I got tired of being their flunky. I guarantee you that they intend Romney to give them a middle of the road Scotus.
I’d be honored to have you on our side, BuckeyeTexan. Keep praying about when and how to jump into the rebellion with both feet.
One thing I would recommend, though, is that if you decide to support Romney that you let no one know it, especially him and the GOP-e.
I imagine you want to keep him to the right in conservative territory. If he gets a hint that you think he’s your only option, then there’s nothing to keep him from moving left.
I think his natural inclination is left, so you have to hold his feet to the fire to keep him on the right. You can’t do that if he believes he has you over a barrel.
Make the GOP-e think that you’ll stay home or go 3rd party if he starts drifting.
No you don’t: he was always pro-gun, pro-life, anti-abortion, and anti-gay agenda.
He simply supported the idea of blacks and women being included equally in political and public life.
Sarah Palin and Alan West are both present and proving that he was right about that part.
However, Romney NOW approves of gay adoption and gay couples, but Goode does not. Which one do you think is right?
Hi Golden. Excellent comment above and excellent post. I'm not well-versed in the matrix, so I've got some watching to do.
In any case, I like the information about how the GOP operates that's near the beginning of this article. Unfortunately, it and its intro is larger than the 300 word "excerpt" size we're allowed to post, so I just posted the entire article.
There is an article on the site...I think by the same author...about Gary Johnsone being "limited pro-choice". As I understood it, that boiled down to RILOM Pro-life (rape, incest, life of mother).
I don't believe in any abortion and think any emergency should require an attempt at an emergency delivery. An abortion is always an attempt to kill the baby, and a delivery is always an attempt to preserve the baby. My position is "pro-delivery".
As we used to say in the Army, Jaydee, Hoooo-ahhhhh! Great response.
Rebellion is brewing!
In other words, two homosexuals can’t be married, but they CAN be parents.
There’s some logic for you.
Ditto. The US cannot afford another four years of the Marxist Islamist Obama and his socialist friends. No matter what Romney’s faults, he is far better than Obama. If we have the Executive Branch and Congress, we can start to make reforms and turn back Obama’s socialism.
All Conservatives: grow up and follow Buckley’s advice. Vote for the most Conservative candidate available.
That could very well be the case, but I would take two more like Justice Kennedy instead of two more like Sotomayor or Kagan. If we lose our conservative edge on the SCOTUS, it'll take decades to get it back because Obama will appoint justices in their 50's or 60's.
Forget about the state of the Republican party for a minute. Forget about their history of betraying of conservatives. Forget about the fact that Romney is as liberal as Obama. Let's even forget about Obamacare for a minute. And let us also assume for the sake of discussion that we take control of both houses of Congress and are able to clean out the RINOs or establish a conservative party from the ground up during Obama's second term.
Think about the potential damage a hard-left SCOTUS could inflict on our constitutional rights over the next decade or two. Gun control advocates will start putting cases before such a court as fast as they can. A hard-left court will reinterpret the 2nd amendment. We already know they believe that the right to keep and bear arms either does not apply to individuals or that the state has the right to put severe restrictions on where we keep them and when/how we bear them.
That's how the left works. They push their agenda through the courts. We will not have the majority we need to force legislation down Obama's throat, amend the Constitution, or impeach Obama's appointments.
And it won't be just the 2A that gets reinterpreted. They'll go after every decision that hasn't gone their way for the last few decades.
A conservative Congress will not be able to pass laws quickly enough to stop Obama from using his executive agencies to reinterpret existing laws. Then we'll be fighting two fronts instead of one: SCOTUS and The Executive reinterpreting our laws.
Consider what we stand to lose if the hard-left takes control of the SCOTUS instead of the moderates. Voting your conscience should include considering more than just Romney's record. Consider the long-term effects of a liberal agenda pushed by a hard-left SCOTUS for the next two decades. Sure you say no to Romney, but are you really saying yes to everything the left wants for the next decade or two?
Give it some thought. I will be.
We all justify what we have to in whatever candidates we feel compelled, or forced, to support.
The whole cognitive assonance ideas which I do agree with agree with what you’ve said.
However, you are not in your marrow a Romney supporter.
You make the assumption that someone is entitled to my vote.
They are not.
Willie Mitty sure does have some scary stuff in them there brain cells...
The article you posted motivated me to check out Gary Johnson's campaign website, and to check on his stand on the abortion issue. It says he supports legal abortion up to the point of fetus viability. To me that is just a position cleverly crafted to attract votes from both the pro-choice and pro-life sides.
Pro-choicers can say, O, he supports a woman's right to murder the child in the womb up to a certain point, and that makes me feel good.
Pro-lifers can say, O, he supports the intercession of the state to guard the life of the most innocent defenseless of our citizens, after a certain point, and that makes me feel good.
It is not a principled stand. The sentiments you voiced on the abortion issue, that is a principled stand.
About the author's views on the operation of the GOP, these are just too cynical and one-dimensional, believing that the behind the scenes leadership is a seamlessly corrupt cabal interested only in wealth, power, and control. If that were true, that would leave us with no hope. And I believe that any point of view that leaves us with no hope, is a thrust of the darkside itself to manipulate people into retreat, and into abandoning their position on the battlements.
In the Republican Party alone is the hope that the abortion holocaust can be turned around.
We certainly have a fight on our hands now to hold that ground within the Republican Party itself, and that is one of the most important reasons to oppose the nomination of Willard M. Romney to be our standard bearer.
Excellent juxtaposition of Romney's contradictory stands.
Of course this points to the truth. Romney's stand against same-sex marriage is just another lie fed to gullible minds.
By promoting homosexual adoption, Romney is pressing forward the very principle that demands the logiccal result, that the "parents" should be "married" as the stability normally associated with a married relationship is in the "best" interests of the child.
The Dark Side logic is both subtle and clever.
That is not the viewpoint of a conservative. "justice" Kennedy, which forces us to utter an oxymoron every time we refer to him, holds the balance for the continuation of the slaughter of the unborn.
What could be more central to the definition of being conservative, than the desire, and commitment to CONSERVE the life of the innocent and defenseless?
God Creates the Life, places it in our hands to CONSERVE it and nurture it, not to murder it.
If you walk away from that commitment, your tether to the definition of conservatism has been severed completely, and with no anchor, you are pulled by currents this way and that way, with no control over your own destiny.
The Master Jesus Christ gave us a reference point for this principle in the foundation building parable:
Matthew 724 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: 25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. 26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: 27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.
Only those who are standing on the rock, are standing their groud.
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