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Jonah Goldberg: ‘Violence solves all sorts of problems’
Daily Caller ^ | 5/17/12 | Michelle Fields

Posted on 05/17/2012 1:09:37 PM PDT by Nachum

Washington - National Review Online editor Jonah Goldberg spoke Wednesday about how “violence solves all sorts of problems” and argued against the critique that Jesus was a pacifist. (Snip) “A lot of people think we get this idea [that violence solves nothing] from Jesus,” Goldberg said. “This is one of the things they love: ‘You hypocritical conservatives, you think violence is a solution — you call yourself a Christian, you’re not.’ Jesus told his followers to carry swords. Unless he had some sort of theory that fell out of in the Apocrypha that these were just great big kabob skewers,

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To: carriage_hill

Lesseehere, which Commandment addressed “coveting”?


41 posted on 05/17/2012 2:23:07 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (Cloud storage? Dropbox rocks! Sign up at http://db.tt/nQqWGd3 for 2GB free (and I get more too).)
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To: Jeff Chandler
Maybe we can get everyone could settle on one of these:

42 posted on 05/17/2012 2:30:16 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Hostage
Cleaning the Temple of money changers was ‘cleaning’ the Temple and not an act of violence against the violators of the Temple rules. He was enforcing the rules not advocating physical bodily harm.

John 2:12-22 "... So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple area, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money-changers and overturned their tables. ..."

Sounds pretty violent. This wasn't going table to table having persuasive theological discussions.

43 posted on 05/17/2012 2:31:21 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (Cloud storage? Dropbox rocks! Sign up at http://db.tt/nQqWGd3 for 2GB free (and I get more too).)
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To: Sudetenland
I just knew that some humorless, self-appointed Bible-cop would show up to take issue with my comment. Get a life.

Make claims about His thought that are contradicted by His words and I'll call you on it every time. Deal.

44 posted on 05/17/2012 2:32:47 PM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: ctdonath2

I don’t know of any; covet away! It’s a s-w-e-e-t firearm, and so is my Beowulf .50cal & ACOG, for “shorter-range wet-work”:

http://www.shopalexanderarms.com/Products-.50_Beowulf.html
and
http://www.militarywarfighter.com/Trijicon_TA64850_p/trijicon-ta648-50.htm


45 posted on 05/17/2012 2:33:32 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (All liberals & most demoncraps think that life is just a sponge bath, with a happy ending.)
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To: ctdonath2

No different than a priest or nun in a school paddling an impudent incorrigible student.

Jesus was a Rabbi and the money changers knew it, and they knew the Temple rules.

Jesus was cleaning house and ready to spank those who willingly flaunted the rules. That’s not ‘violence’, that’s parenting and enforcement.


46 posted on 05/17/2012 2:36:36 PM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: carriage_hill
By any chance does the ACOG have the infamous "verse" code?
47 posted on 05/17/2012 2:38:14 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (Cloud storage? Dropbox rocks! Sign up at http://db.tt/nQqWGd3 for 2GB free (and I get more too).)
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To: ctdonath2

He did not “beat the snot out of those selling things in the Temple”. See Post #46.


48 posted on 05/17/2012 2:39:10 PM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: Hostage

Going after adults with a whip, overturning tables and dumping cashboxes in the process, is usually interpreted that way. This ain’t just a swat with a ruler across the knuckles or backside.


49 posted on 05/17/2012 2:44:46 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (Cloud storage? Dropbox rocks! Sign up at http://db.tt/nQqWGd3 for 2GB free (and I get more too).)
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To: Nachum

I can’t speak for Christians (or Jewish people), but Rome and others before her say that slaves should be endlessly forgiving and tolerant. They don’t need any stinking freedoms.

[Little irony and sarcasm from a Gentile somewhat follower of Judaism. I left the plantation for monotheism.]


50 posted on 05/17/2012 2:48:23 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: Hostage

Turning the tables over as he drove the vendors from the Temple would have earned Him a retraining order and creating a public disturbance charge today.....


51 posted on 05/17/2012 2:51:29 PM PDT by G Larry (Criminals thrive on the indulgence of society's understanding)
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To: ctdonath2

Well then I guess you would label police as ‘violent’ when they are in the act of dispersing trespassers from properties.


52 posted on 05/17/2012 2:53:09 PM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: Hostage

See title of thread.


53 posted on 05/17/2012 2:54:00 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (Cloud storage? Dropbox rocks! Sign up at http://db.tt/nQqWGd3 for 2GB free (and I get more too).)
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To: Jeff Chandler

A bubba’d-up Mosin with a scope would be one kind of statement. Totally downscale. ;-)


54 posted on 05/17/2012 2:58:07 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: ctdonath2

I believe that’s what’s called “righteous indignation”.


55 posted on 05/17/2012 2:58:32 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: G Larry

> “Turning the tables over as he drove the vendors from the Temple would have earned Him a retraining order and creating a public disturbance charge today.....”

Um....No. Jesus was a Rabbi and the Temple was his domain. He was acting as a law enforcer not a trespasser threatening violence.

If people setup a Casino illegally inside the House of Representatives, do we call the Sargent-at-Arms ‘violent’ when he tells casino table hustlers to clear out? If he overturns their tables, do we say the Sargent-at-Arms needs a “restraining order”? I think not.

It’s not violence, it’s cleaning and enforcement.


56 posted on 05/17/2012 3:00:26 PM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: ctdonath2

> “See title of thread.”

Irrelevant to the issue.


57 posted on 05/17/2012 3:02:27 PM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: familyop
Mosin

Oh yeah. I think you can get a 20' Sea-Land container full of ammo for that for about 20 bucks.

58 posted on 05/17/2012 3:16:37 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (The best diplomat I know is a fully-activated phaser bank. - Montgomery Scott)
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To: Hostage
Irrelevant to the issue.

Whole point of issue.

59 posted on 05/17/2012 3:18:50 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (Cloud storage? Dropbox rocks! Sign up at http://db.tt/nQqWGd3 for 2GB free (and I get more too).)
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To: ctdonath2

I have JN8:12 on the AR-10’s TA31ECOS/G ACOG:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+8%3A12&version=NIV

The 82A1 has a Barska 10x36 Zoom w/100mm Lens:
http://scopesniper.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/barska-sniper-scope.jpg
w/Mildots:
http://www.shopbarska.com/img-green_mil.jpg

And the Beowulf .50cal’s TA648-50 ACOG also has JN8:12 on it.

Never noticed them before, down near pic-rail mount at Model#. Had to use an LED hi-po, tac-flash to see them. LOL.


60 posted on 05/17/2012 3:19:20 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (All liberals & most demoncraps think that life is just a sponge bath, with a happy ending.)
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