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Washington, D.C., becoming a 'Mormon stronghold'
Deseret News ^ | May 16, 2012 | Joseph Walker

Posted on 05/22/2012 8:47:57 AM PDT by greyfoxx39

The stunning expansion of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in the Washington, D.C., area is profiled in a long, interesting and meticulously accurate CNN story that suggests "the nation's capital has become a Mormon stronghold, with Latter-day Saints playing a big and growing role in the Washington establishment."

-SNIP-

"It's hard to point to federal legislation or a White House initiative that bears distinctly Mormon fingerprints," Gilgoff writes, "while it's easy to do the same for other faiths." He cites as an example a recent White House "compromise" on contraception funding, which he says was "mostly a reaction to pressure from Roman Catholic bishops."

(Excerpt) Read more at deseretnews.com ...


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To: dirtboy
But I do not see them as anywhere near the threat to this country that Islam is...

I thinbk we've already agreed to this.

Will you agree that MORMONism is bad foir the human soul?

451 posted on 05/26/2012 1:33:47 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: dirtboy
You were asked repeatedly if you would feel safer in Salt Lake City or Cairo - you evaded answering the 'safer' part.

Oh?

Well since I have never gotten a death threat from a Muslim, but have gotten them from Mormons, and have at least 4 friends who have also received bombs/bomb threats from Mormons (3 of whom live in SLC), I’m gonna go with Cairo.

Indeed.


I'll assume you just read too fast and MISSED it.

Don't you feel bad about your pasty rant now?

452 posted on 05/26/2012 1:38:27 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Servant of the Cross
...the mormons have posed no physcial threat.

In light of the EVIDENCE presented?

453 posted on 05/26/2012 1:40:41 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Servant of the Cross
It would require a willing suspension of disbelief to equate these mormon missionaries with the crazed adherents of islam. Don’t you think?

Probably.

Has anyone suggested it?

Do you feel that MORMONism is a threat to the human soul? (Yeah; I've come back arounbd to that.)

454 posted on 05/26/2012 1:42:26 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Servant of the Cross
Beats me. I've seen nothing done with ALL caps in this thread.

Although; these things could happen exponentially.

455 posted on 05/26/2012 1:46:19 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: dirtboy; Tennessee Nana

2/3’s


456 posted on 05/26/2012 1:47:27 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie
Elsie, you bad cow. It's not nice to misrepresent by omitting key words ... "If you're not mormon (as most of us are not), the mormons have posed no physcial threat.

Remember, this was in the context of the question to note examples of mormon terroristic atrocity in the last twenty years so please don't talk about the "Utes" again.

457 posted on 05/26/2012 1:48:54 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
How more odious would Obama need to BE before Romney WOULD make more sense?

Depends.

Will anyone besides the nutcases, FI's and ANTI's agree that Romney is either a...

Deceived MORMON

or a

deceiving MORMON?

458 posted on 05/26/2012 1:50:54 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie

And so if they agree that Mitt is wrong on a lot of things and that being Mormon has had something to do with many of those things... although frankly I think Mitt is probably INSUFFICIENTLY attentive to the LDS to take a lot of family values issues seriously, and the LDS forefathers would have been scandalized by Mitt’s flip flopping...

does that change the issue about whether the guard ought to told to change this November?


459 posted on 05/26/2012 1:56:00 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Let me ABOs run loose Lou, let me ABOs run loose! They are of much use Lou, so let me ABOs run loose)
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To: Elsie

And so if they agree that Mitt is wrong on a lot of things and that being Mormon has had something to do with many of those things... although frankly I think Mitt is probably INSUFFICIENTLY attentive to the LDS to take a lot of family values issues seriously, and the LDS forefathers would have been scandalized by Mitt’s flip flopping...

does that change the issue about whether the guard ought to told to change this November?


460 posted on 05/26/2012 1:58:30 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Let me ABOs run loose Lou, let me ABOs run loose! They are of much use Lou, so let me ABOs run loose)
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To: Deb

No whining from me. But there’s plenty of whining from the Mormons and the Dems.

Also from the homosexuals: Agreeing with Jesus’ teaching from Matthew 19:4-6 on what constitutes marriage is “bashing gays!!!!”

and from the Mohammedans: Disagreeing with Sharia Law is “Islamophobia!!!!!”


461 posted on 05/26/2012 1:58:53 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: Elsie

Mormons threatened to kill you — why? Are you a missionary to Mormons? While this of course does not reflect well on the Mormons in their response to you out of their religious disagreement with you, I can guaran-doggone-tee ya that missionaries to Muslims bump up against a much nastier hornets nest. (My church supports one of these.)


462 posted on 05/26/2012 2:05:16 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Let me ABOs run loose Lou, let me ABOs run loose! They are of much use Lou, so let me ABOs run loose)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I think Mitt is probably INSUFFICIENTLY attentive to the LDS to take a lot of family values issues seriously, and the LDS forefathers would have been scandalized by Mitt’s flip flopping.

And you would be wrong. Romney is a temple mormon, only about 15% reach this high level.

463 posted on 05/26/2012 5:28:01 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: svcw

And they still have the morals of alley cats?


464 posted on 05/26/2012 10:00:12 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Let me ABOs run loose Lou ... ???)
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To: Elsie
reaganaut said that, not colofornian.

Do please try to grasp the hard stuff, such as which poster said what.

465 posted on 05/27/2012 4:04:34 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: HiTech RedNeck
does that change the issue about whether the guard ought to told to change this November?

Nope.

It also fails to negate certain lessons from history:

1 Samuel 8:19-20 NIV

“We want a king over us. Then we will be like all the other nations, with a king to lead us and to go out before us and fight our battles.”


466 posted on 05/27/2012 4:11:47 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
“We want a king over us.

Obama is our king.

Almost EVERYone knows that he is 'dead'.

Now it's time for a new king...


1 Samuel 16:6-7

When they arrived, Samuel saw Eliab and thought, “Surely the Lord’s anointed stands here before the Lord.”

But the Lord said to Samuel, “Do not consider his appearance or his height, for I have rejected him. The Lord does not look at the things people look at. People look at the outward appearance, but the Lord looks at the heart.”


Romney is our Eliab.

467 posted on 05/27/2012 4:19:58 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

But the bottom line is...

1 Samuel 8:7
Then the Lord GOD said, “For they have not rejected thee, but me, that I should not reign over them.”


468 posted on 05/27/2012 4:22:15 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Mormons threatened to kill you — why?

I was quote from another poster. The one who gave an ANSWER to the fellow who was demanding an answer.

469 posted on 05/27/2012 4:24:06 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: dirtboy
reaganaut said that, not colofornian.

Since you've lumped them together; does it really matter to you just WHICH one said it?

Your question was ANSWERED by one, and AGREED to by the other.

Or did you miss the INDEED word?

470 posted on 05/27/2012 4:26:24 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: dirtboy
Do please try to grasp the hard stuff, such as which poster said what.

Give me a little slack, for it appears that I am under a CURSE! (verse 10)


The

DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS

OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS

SECTION 71

Revelation given to Joseph Smith the Prophet and Sidney Rigdon, at Hiram, Ohio, December 1, 1831. HC 1: 238–239. The Prophet had continued to translate the Bible with Sidney Rigdon as his scribe until this revelation was received, at which time it was temporarily laid aside so as to enable them to fulfill the instruction given herein. The brethren were to go forth to preach in order to allay the unfriendly feelings that had developed against the Church as a result of the publication of some newspaper articles by Ezra Booth, who had apostatized.

1–4, Joseph Smith and Sidney Rigdon are sent forth to proclaim the gospel; 5–11, Enemies of the saints shall be confounded.

1 Behold, thus saith the Lord unto you my servants Joseph Smith, Jun., and Sidney Rigdon, that the time has verily come that it is necessary and expedient in me that you should open your mouths in proclaiming my gospel, the things of the kingdom, expounding the mysteries thereof out of the scriptures, according to that portion of Spirit and power which shall be given unto you, even as I will.

2 Verily I say unto you, proclaim unto the world in the regions round about, and in the church also, for the space of a season, even until it shall be made known unto you.

3 Verily this is a mission for a season, which I give unto you.

4 Wherefore, labor ye in my vineyard. Call upon the inhabitants of the earth, and bear record, and prepare the way for the commandments and revelations which are to come.

5 Now, behold this is wisdom; whoso readeth, let him understand and receive also;

6 For unto him that receiveth it shall be given more abundantly, even power.

7 Wherefore, confound your enemies; call upon them to meet you both in public and in private; and inasmuch as ye are faithful their shame shall be made manifest.

8 Wherefore, let them bring forth their strong reasons against the Lord.

9 Verily, thus saith the Lord unto you—there is no weapon that is formed against you shall prosper;

10 And if any man lift his voice against you he shall be confounded in mine own due time.

11 Wherefore, keep my commandments; they are true and faithful. Even so. Amen.

 

471 posted on 05/27/2012 4:29:20 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie

My post that you criticized was directed specfically at colofornian.


472 posted on 05/27/2012 4:30:24 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Elsie
I would agree that Mormonism can be bad for one's brain, but South Park did a better job on that topic than I ever could.

And the topic of whether Mormonism is more dangerous than Islam for this country has NOT been settled - I do not see colofornian backing away from that point of view at all. I will give you credit for taking Mormonism to task doctrinally without taking things beyond that point to absurdity. But others have taken it there.

473 posted on 05/27/2012 4:37:47 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Elsie

Are you getting desperate in your reach? There wasn’t even the pretense of a constitution in the situation the Israelites wanted to set up. Also, if Mitt would be a king so would Obama be, leading to utter stalemate in the argument.


474 posted on 05/27/2012 4:41:56 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Let me ABOs run loose Lou ... ???)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Does who have the morals of ally cats?
I said the lds founding leaders would not be scandalized by Romney’s “flip flops” and you are talking about cats.
You will have to expand your question.


475 posted on 05/27/2012 7:05:22 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: dirtboy; Elsie
... tak[e] Mormonism to task doctrinally without taking things beyond that point to absurdity.

Well stated DB! AND absurdity is a good word for it - which has been PERFECTLY illustrated on this thread.

Elsie, as SUPREME imanInman of the FMTS, what say you to this well-reasoned point? Consider a RULE, to be passed along to ALL the FLYING inmans, that radical ISLAM poses a greater evil, and physical threat, to the WORLD than the followers who believe they are destined for planet KOLOB?

476 posted on 05/27/2012 7:18:26 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Consider a RULE, to be passed along to ALL the FLYING inmans, that radical ISLAM poses a greater evil, and physical threat, to the WORLD than the followers who believe they are destined for planet KOLOB?
_________________________________________________

This FI will weigh in on that Q...

As of yet Islamics have not lined the fence of the Christian church that I go to and yelled out abuse and terrorized and mocked TWO YEAR OLD little girls till they screamed in fright...

But Mormons have...

Week after week..


477 posted on 05/27/2012 9:47:10 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: Servant of the Cross

mormonism and islam pose a great threat to the eternal soul.
mormonism can result in great physical/emotional damage to families, and friends of families if you refuse to follow mormonism.
I have seen families shredded and shunned by lds who dare to try an leave mormonism.
I have seen this first hand, I have experienced this first hand.


478 posted on 05/27/2012 10:01:45 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: svcw
I have seen families shredded and shunned by lds who dare to try an leave mormonism. I have seen this first hand, I have experienced this first hand.

As have I.

479 posted on 05/27/2012 12:10:25 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (The inability or unwillingness to reality test beliefs is okay for my plumber but not for POTUS.)
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To: dirtboy
I will give you credit for taking Mormonism to task doctrinally without taking things beyond that point to absurdity.

No need for me to do that.

If posting MORMON documents, however, shows the absurdity of MORMONism'd foundation; well - I can hardly take credit for that.

480 posted on 05/27/2012 6:22:51 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Servant of the Cross
Consider a RULE, to be passed along to ALL the FLYING inmans, that radical ISLAM poses a greater evil, and physical threat, to the WORLD than the followers who believe they are destined for planet KOLOB?

Didn't I cover this already?

481 posted on 05/27/2012 6:36:46 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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