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Ban of Indian mascots is 'disrespectful' [Oregon Idiots Ban Indian School Nicknames--Backfire!]
Mynorthwest.com ^ | 5/25/12 | "The News Chick"

Posted on 05/25/2012 6:48:54 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

It's another form of disrespect.

Tribes in Oregon aren't offended with schools using "Braves" "Warriors" and "Indians" as mascots. They are upset that state school leaders have voted to eliminate all Native mascots in public schools.

"It's easier to ban Native American images than it is to deal with the real issue," says Shiobhan Taylor, a spokesperson for Confederated Tribes of Grand Ronde.

Last week, on a 5-1 vote, the Oregon Board of Education banned public schools from using American Indian names and mascots for their athletic teams, out of a concern they disparage native people.

(Excerpt) Read more at mynorthwest.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: backfire; schools
Moron state education officials in Oregon banned use of Indian nicknames for schools.

Guess who is pissed off? The Indians.

Epic Fail.

1 posted on 05/25/2012 6:49:05 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper
Once one panders to any particular group it will never end.

Solution - don't pander.

2 posted on 05/25/2012 6:51:31 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: SoFloFreeper

My school was the Comets.


3 posted on 05/25/2012 6:55:01 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Just name your school the Warrens. Even she's no longer sure if she's an Indian or not. :-)
4 posted on 05/25/2012 6:59:05 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (You only have three billion heartbeats in a lifetime.How many does the government claim as its own?)
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To: SoFloFreeper

This whole thing certainly is moronic. Would you actually name your team after something you wanted to mock? No, you name it after something that you think is gallant, noble, worthy of honor. Lefties truly are idiots!


5 posted on 05/25/2012 6:59:13 AM PDT by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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Typical white guilt at work. Patronize some group that neither wants or appreciates the “help” being offered.

By the way, my favorite story about this relates to Arkansas State University. A few years back, the ASU community was looking for replacement nicknames for the Indians, and one of the most popular mascot choices was a train locomotive, with the teams called the “Engines”. Needless to say, that idea was nixed.


6 posted on 05/25/2012 7:05:10 AM PDT by Arkansas Toothpick
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To: cripplecreek
Thugs all over the nation are offended at Yuma High School for their mascot. Photobucket
7 posted on 05/25/2012 7:05:27 AM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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To: SoFloFreeper
Last week, on a 5-1 vote, the Oregon Board of Education banned public schools from using American Indian names and mascots for their athletic teams, out of a concern they disparage native people.

Those names are chosen by the schools in honor of Braves, Warriors, Indians, etc.

BTW, since when did N.A. Indians become the only group with "Warriors"?

8 posted on 05/25/2012 7:07:10 AM PDT by houeto (FReepathon 2Q! https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Ronald_Magnus

The Tampa Thugs.


9 posted on 05/25/2012 7:09:04 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: SoFloFreeper

The Left has determined that these lesser peoples don’t even know when to be offended.


10 posted on 05/25/2012 7:14:42 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Tuba City High School is on Warrior Drive on reservation land. It has been a number of years and may have changed, but the gym, which is very visible from the main drag, has an image (~20 ft high)of the Indian shown above painted on the side underneath is proclaimed: "Home of the fighting Warriors".
11 posted on 05/25/2012 7:17:30 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (When you hear hooves, think horses, not zebras.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
To this day, the PC nazis will just roll their eyes when you ask them about the Florida Seminoles or Utah Utes.

The reason is because when this crap first surfaced, those tribes went to the NCAA weenies and demanded that the mascots be left alone.

Everyone who waited or, worse, thought they could negotiate their cooperation into free stuff (scholarships, minority studies, etc.), is now suffering under the jack boots of the spawn of the original PC nazis.

12 posted on 05/25/2012 7:20:36 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: SampleMan

More like ‘I will be offended for you.’


13 posted on 05/25/2012 7:23:19 AM PDT by jps098
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To: cripplecreek
My school was the Comets.

Mine was / is the Crusaders; mooselimbs are deeply offended, I guess.

I care - not so much.

14 posted on 05/25/2012 7:23:36 AM PDT by NY.SS-Bar9
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To: cripplecreek
My school was the Comets.

Heeey! I think I'm a member of that tribe.

15 posted on 05/25/2012 7:27:57 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks like Right-Wing extremism.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Indian nicknames for athletic teams have always paid a compliment to Indians (which many of them have long realized), lauding as they do bravery and a fighting spirit, among other positives.I think the PC aversion that favors Native American over Indian as designations for Indians has a lot to do with it.What school will be the first to adopt the name The Native Americans for their school and teams? Not going to happen.

I see nothing wrong with calling Indians Indians.Many of them do it themselves and we still have a Bureau of Indian Affairs.Everyone knows American Indians don't come from India. The name has important associations with American history and as such should not be expunged from our vocabulary.And if that wasn't enough, everyone born in America is a native American.

16 posted on 05/25/2012 7:31:37 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: Michael.SF.
The Oregon Fighting Liberal Honkies really would go crazy here in Arizona where we have real indians.
17 posted on 05/25/2012 7:40:11 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (It's too bad that America's "first black president" turned out to also be a communist.)
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To: NY.SS-Bar9

The most patently ethnically-offensive mascot I know is the pugnacious-looking little lepruachan of the Celtics. (I’m sick of these Irish stereotypes — as soon as I finish my drink, I’m going to punch somebody!) Of course, no one is trying to PC him away to salve the sensitvities of the Irish, and he is beloved to the point of being a very popular tatoo here in the People’s Rep. of Mass. Anyone who is proud of and confident in their ethnicity can enjoy the humor inherent in caricature. Lack of true pride and confidence is probably why the Muzzies always get their head-towels in a bunch whenever someone draws a cartoon.


18 posted on 05/25/2012 7:40:28 AM PDT by thanatz
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To: cripplecreek

Objects in space object to the name...


19 posted on 05/25/2012 7:52:16 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: thanatz
Best mascots ever:
Fictional, but great:

Real, but banned a few years ago from Pekin, Illinois:


20 posted on 05/25/2012 7:52:20 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Michael.SF.

I remember years ago when Navajos from one school got into a fight with Navajos from Tuba City high over a ball game.

I’m trying to come up with a joke about them being “yutes” but they were not Utes, the Navajo’s traditional enemy.


21 posted on 05/25/2012 7:55:03 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: FlingWingFlyer

We have quite a few tribes here in the northwest as well.


22 posted on 05/25/2012 7:55:32 AM PDT by MPJackal ("From my cold dead hands.")
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To: SoFloFreeper

The best were the team names from the movie, “Baseketball”

Milwaukee Beers

Dallas Felons

Miami Dealers

New Jersey Informants

San Francisco Ferries

Roswell Aliens

L.A. Riots

San Antonio Defenders

Detroit Lemons


23 posted on 05/25/2012 7:57:21 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Arkansas Toothpick

At a school not far south of Fayetteville, the school admin tried to get the team name changed to the “Charging Squirrels”.


24 posted on 05/25/2012 7:58:51 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: jps098

Has Elizabeth Warren weighed in on this?

Are there any mascots called The Mythical Fractional Redskins?


25 posted on 05/25/2012 8:00:58 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Twotone

I give them permission to call themselves the “Donnas”!


26 posted on 05/25/2012 8:01:50 AM PDT by donna (The fruits of Feminism: Angry fathers, bitter mothers, fat kids and political correctness.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

The racist bigots on the education board made this move to erase the last public display that recognized that the Nations ever even existed!


27 posted on 05/25/2012 8:07:54 AM PDT by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslimze, my handle is a Hate Crime. Hope they don't like it.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

The Oregon Beavers and Ducks. They evidently like things that are in the water. Nope, I’m not gonna do it.....the moderator removed me once this week already.....see......I can be a good boy......control......remember what Mrs. Nelson said, “Potty mouth = potty mind”.......I guess that goes for keyboards too......steady....steady.....


28 posted on 05/25/2012 8:19:49 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: SoFloFreeper

How about a name change to...

The Fighting Sel-Vedges ( Dwellers of the green forest or savages).

Indolent Indigenous Aborigines.

Close Cut Barbers (Not to be confused with high price ticket salesmen or Scalpers)


29 posted on 05/25/2012 8:20:18 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Anything Goes, Phantom of the Opera, Nice work if you cn get it, EVITA. On BROADWAY last week.!)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Nobody seems to get upset that Notre Dame is called the Fighting Irish with a leprechaun as the mascot.

Anybody feel demeaned???

This reveals glaringly all the shallowness, disingenuousness, hypocrisy, and basically evil mendacity that is the Left.

They pass laws that satisfy some appearance of solving a problem but do not solve the problem. They then dismiss the problem as solved and never consider the enforceability of the law or the subsequent problems that it causes.

In fact, it's even worse. They load the books with so many laws that all cannot possibly be enforced, and this enables them to enforce them selectively, to bully those they consider adversaries, to threaten, to intimidate, to silence.

Needless to say, my opinion of Leftists and the Left could not be lower. They represent the vilest and most morally corrupt elements in our population and an army of clueless morons who support them.

30 posted on 05/25/2012 8:21:32 AM PDT by Savage Beast ("You can, in fact must, shout fire in a crowded theatre. It just has to be the truth. " J. Goldberg)
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To: thanatz
I had a business associate who immigrated legally here. He was born in Morocco (Africa) and grew up in Israel (Asia). The day he proudly took his oath of American citizenship, we let him know that he was now listed by H.R. as both an African-American and an Asian-American gaining rare double points on the diversity by federal mandate metric.

We were kidding of course!

31 posted on 05/25/2012 8:22:34 AM PDT by masadaman
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Oregon State's mascot is a beaver. It always had a gentle, happy expression until folks decided it wasn't tough enough. Now we have the 'fierce' beaver... FierceBeaver
32 posted on 05/25/2012 8:23:54 AM PDT by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: Twotone

Ah, my undergraduate alma mater! In the 70’s they had “I’ve Got Beaver Fever” bumper stickers that some, ah, *overenthusiastic* freshpersons placed on certain automobiles without asking the owners first. Hilarity ensued. Uh, well, maybe “hilarity” isn’t exactly the right word...


33 posted on 05/25/2012 8:28:45 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
tried to get the team name changed to the “Charging Squirrels”.

How do stop a charging squirrel?

Take away his credit card

ba-dum-dum

34 posted on 05/25/2012 8:37:14 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (When you hear hooves, think horses, not zebras.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Not surprisingly, the local paper (Portland Oregonian/Hillsboro Argus)followed with editorial. Rather than chastising State Board of Education for holding the schools hostage (”funds will be withheld if mascot name not changed”), they suggested this was a “teachable moment” allowing the schools to espouse the value of diversity and acceptance. The schools will be forced to comply, a tacit admission that the mascot name was truly a racial slur from the beginning.
When the state doles out the money, they make the rules. When local property taxes funded the schools, local control was guaranteed.
35 posted on 05/25/2012 8:42:18 AM PDT by blues-train (blues train)
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To: SoFloFreeper

The Indians seem to be the adults in this picture. And by proposing respectable Indian themed mascots, they are offering a good compromise. It would be problematic for them to suggest other motivational gimmicks, but they should be offered some input about what shouldn’t be used.

The tricky part will be coming up with inoffensive but marketable logos and mascots. It needs cartoon simplicity for artistic reasons, and it shouldn’t be a problem if put on t-shirts, etc.

They were also wise to request that some background about their tribes be available to students, because it’s good to “meet the neighbors”.


36 posted on 05/25/2012 8:43:18 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: SoFloFreeper

If you are familiar with Pekin, you may also know about the Monmouth Zippers.


37 posted on 05/25/2012 8:55:11 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Sounds as if the Libs are attempting to make the American Indian disappear from memory just as they fight against anything that reminds them of the Confederacy.


38 posted on 05/25/2012 9:13:27 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Anything Goes, Phantom of the Opera, Nice work if you cn get it, EVITA. On BROADWAY last week.!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Suggested alternate names:

Visigoths
Vandals
Saxons
Crusaders
Vikings
Odin
Thor
Beserkers
Knights
Spartans
Huns
Celts


39 posted on 05/25/2012 10:12:50 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (The Democrat Ku Klux Klan is alive and well - Ogletree, Sharpton, Clyburn, Jackson)
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To: cripplecreek

“Thugs” might be offensive to the “other Indians”....you know...the ones from India. The Thugs were highwaymen that worshipped Kali, and killed their victims without shedding their blood.


40 posted on 05/25/2012 10:18:30 AM PDT by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I’ve lived on an Indian reservation for most of my life. It’s the blatantly racist term “Redskins” used by the NFL team in our nation’s capitol that American Indians find most offensive. Change it to the Washington “Kikes” and see if anyone in the media complains.


41 posted on 05/25/2012 2:50:07 PM PDT by sforkjoe57 (How much longer must Americans be slaves to the stupidity of John Maynard Keynes?)
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To: sforkjoe57

Change it to the whiteskins, micks or mackerel snappers and see if I am offended. But don’t hold your breath.


42 posted on 05/25/2012 2:55:25 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (.)
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