Posted on 06/01/2012 11:12:17 AM PDT by chessplayer
How worried has Elizabeth Warren become over the controversy surrounding her self-identification as a Native American at Penn and Harvard Law, both of which promoted her as an example of diversity? At the beginning of the week, the Democratic Senate hopeful told her critics that she wouldnt answer any more questions about the subject. By yesterday, though, she picked up the phone and called one of those critics, the Boston Globes Brian McGrory, to explain herself further and to tell an odd story about her parents courtship:
"Warren gave far and away her most elaborate and emotional responses to questions over why she still believes she has Native American heritage, despite a lack of documented evidence. She revealed that her parents eloped because of tensions between their two families over her mothers ancestry."
"Her family is not known to have an official affiliation or any registration with an Indian tribe, and any sparse indications that a great-great-great grandmother had Cherokee blood would fall short of federal guidelines that would grant Warren minority status. Warren was born and raised in Oklahoma."
In the 1930s, when my parents got married, these were hard issues, Warren said. My fathers family so objected to my mothers Native American heritage that my mother told me they had to elope."
As kids, my brothers and I knew about that. We knew about the differences between our two families. And we knew how important my mothers heritage was to her. This was real in my life. I cant deny my heritage. I cant and I wont. That would be denying who my mother was, who my family was, how we lived, and I wont do it.
Her claim to Cherokee ancestry has been that she has 1/32nd Native American ancestry. Are we to believe that her fathers family objected to a marriage between their son and a woman who was 15/16ths not Native American? To a woman who never bothered to claim membership in a Cherokee nation, and whose family never did either, according to Cherokee tribal authorities? That sounds more like desperation than family lore.
Princess Squattopee stepped in it again. Breibart foud they were married in a church.
What a load of pure and bizarre BS!! This idiot doesn’t know when to stop shooting herself in the feet; she’s moved on to kneecapping herself.
In Oklahoma kids brag about how much Cherokee blood they have.
Almost everyone has some, or say they do.
She’s worse than Edwards at lying. Both of them are pikers compared to Slick. He would have killed this story in one way or another within a week.
I guess the whole “mythical Cherokee” argument, dreamed up by one of the liberal morons on one of the liberal “news” sites never caught on.
Nice!! She’s publicly calling her father’s family racist indian haters.
This scum sucking democrat is a real prize.
For those that could get by the minority misrepresentation (and its subsequent misplaced benefits/honors/quotas),
can you get past the fact that Elizabeth Warren is a congenital liar?
What a fruit loop. No wonder the libtards love her.
She just keeps digging the hole deeper and deeper.
It's a running joke all over the west about never meeting anyone who didn't claim Cherokee bloodlines. It's never any other tribe, it's always Cherokee.
Them Cherokee must have had 12 inch coup sticks.
Yeah - everyone who elopes stays in town and uses the local minister and church.
AS an Okie myself, the relative is almost always a Cherokee princess.
In point of fact, Warren’s great-great-great grandfather was a Cherokee chief, `Chief Shortcake.’
When he died, his squaw bury Shortcake.
>> his squaw bury Shortcake
>> deep groan <<
Smart people know when to STFU... I hope she keeps talking..
Ugh! Nobody teachum paleface that pun is lower than dirt?
Almost everyone has some, or say they do. "
You're close to right...
In Oklahoma, most of us whose familes have been here for more than a couple of generations have some Native American blood. That goes for almost everyone - white, black, brown, and even asian peeps whose family line goes back a couple of generations and there's been an ancestor who is a "native Oklahoman".
Now, here's the deal: There are Native Americans of many different tribes, more than I can identify or name... but here are some that you guys might all recognize... Creek, Choctaw, Seminole, Chickasaw, Cherokee. The aforementioned collectively known from the 19th century as the "Five Civilized Tribes".
Why?
Because these tribes were all associated with the Cherokees, and... There was this Cherokee dude name Seqoyah who developed this fascinating concept called the Cherokee Alphabet, thus not only preserving the Cherokee language, but also accellerating the access of the Cherokees, and by association the other "civilized tribes", to uh, mainstream society.
The Cherokees are indisputably a political and cultural force to be reckoned with around here and have been since their settling in the northeastern part of the state at a place they called "New Fire", or "Tulsa" in their language.
Point is, any @$$h01e who wants to associate himorherself with the native Americans for self-serving reasons always answers "uh... Cherokee!" when they're axed "Which tribe?"
Oh, what about OKSooner, you ax? Yeah, I've got a certain amount of native American blood from both sides. I'm in fact proud to say this, but - it dang well doesn't make me any better or worse than anyone else, and... I COULDN'T PROVE IT ANYWAY... just like all the other white, black, and brown people whose families have been here awhile.
The poseurs almost always say "Cherokee".
Actually, I think there is a reason for it. Where I'm from, there are a lot of Osage, and the Osage had oil, but I don't remember non-indians bragging about their Osage heritage in the same way.
A trip to the Cherokee museum is really interesting. Its small, but worth going. Photos of towns in Cherokee territory back in the 1800s look like small towns in Oklahoma today, same brick buildings, brick streets, and so on. They really tried to integrate themselves into the US, they built a university based on Harvard's curriculum, sent their kids back east for education, built a legal system based on the US model. Whites were welcome to settle and set up businesses, a lot of their land was leased out to white ranchers, they always saw themselves as equals to the rest of Americans.
Photos of the times show high-born Cherokees dressed rather elegantly in eastern fashions. Photos of the chief speaking to a crowd look like a politician and a high-class crowd anywhere back east. Its not what people think of.
The big political divide among Cherokees was whether to enter the US as a Cherokee state or enter in combination with the other "civilized" tribes as a unified Oklahoma state.
Of course, after fifty years of promises, in the end they got stabbed in the back by Washington DC, which ought to leave any Okie with a healthy distrust of government. :)
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