Posted on 06/13/2012 6:53:06 AM PDT by C19fan
Europe owes a lot to Greece. Not least for the inspiration that it has drawn pursuing human excellence throughout history to emerge as probably the most civilized part of the world, but perhaps still more for actually remaining free to this day through its heroic stand against Germany’s unprovoked aggression during the Second World War.
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At this point, learning to fish ain’t gonna be enough. They have problems that will require extrication from the EU to solve, and I submit that artilleryman, infantryman, and piloting are among the skills that will be orders of magnitude more important in saving Greece than fishing.
Yep, I may be a cold hearted SOB but people need to learn that socialism DOES NOT work. If it takes images of Greeks starving to death then so be it.
Socialists never learn anything particularly European Socialists.
Looks like they missed that bit about the Peloponnesian War. And as you've pointed out, WWII didn't exactly showcase the finer side of Gree kcivilization and humanitarian outlook, did it?
So true. A Socialist can crap in their pants and, with firm belief, blame someone else.
Funny that you use that analogy, because I’ve heard a similar thing said about the liberal nanny state in general -
“someone craps their pants and we ALL have to wear diapers”
I don’t know where you dreamed up the crap of sending a haha from my post. Do you know what the Cloward-Piven strategy is? Greece is a prime example of overloading the governemt system with too many employees and dependents being paid for out of the government coffer running on borrowed money. If you can’t see why the system collapsed then it does little good to fix it then go right back to the same process for it to collapse again. That’s hardly a haha, poster.
The problem is, the Greeks imagine that their OWED these things. They are not.
Maybe if they admitted their mistakes and asked nicely for charity people would be more willing to help?
And they still need to offer some sort of realistic plan of rectifying their mistakes.
bfl
So long ago. I’d forgotten. I was in the Pentagon when the movie came out. I recall there were several screenings of the movie around Washington. The late Jean Kirkpatrick (a true stateswoman) was a strong supporter of folks watching it.
“Germany’s Unprovoked Aggression”...
Just a little history. The “unprovoked aggression” was from Mussolini’s Italy. Hitler’s Balkans policy was not to rock the boat, because he didn’t want the Ploesti oilfields threatened. Mussolini attacked Greece without consulting the Germans. Greece’s problems with Germany started when Greece let British ground and air units into Greece. Thaty, the Germans would not let stand [Ploesti again]. And since Hitler was already going to attack Yugoslavia for a pro-British coup, adding Greece, and later Crete, to the list was merely a techinical porble.
I suspect they’d sooner learn how to fish—imagine having to teach Greeks how to fish!—on their own.
The last thing they need is the international community to come in and ‘help’ them.
Hi Miss Marmelstein - I didn’t say you stated that, so sorry if you thought that — that is why I addressed to all. I do believe that Greeks should be given some slack although their voting record overall seems abysmal...I cannot imagine going from a conservative like Karmanlis to an arch leftist like Papandreou. And now take a look at what they have...oh well.
And yes, one would hope Melina and hubby are paying their dues...although their daughter is a star on Greek TV with her own show.
“WWII didn’t exactly showcase the finer side of Gree kcivilization and humanitarian outlook, did it?”
I can say that it didn’t for some - but my Father In Law assisted downed Allied pilots to escape from occupied Greece to Turkey during the war...
Oh, that’s OK. I thought your comment was directed at me and I didn’t want you to think I was completely insensitive.
Hiroshima?
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