Posted on 06/14/2012 5:24:04 PM PDT by neverdem
After more than a year of half-truths, stonewalling, obfuscating and outright lying to Congress about the “gunwalking” scandal known as Fast and Furious, Attorney General Eric Holder now finds himself trapped in a box canyon, out of ammo and surrounded by hostiles.
It couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.
Finally run to ground, the embattled AG has tossed House and Senate investigators a fig leaf of feigned cooperation, just ahead of a House committee’s vote next week on whether to cite him for contempt.
“I’m offering to sit down with the speaker, the chairman, with you and work our way through this in an attempt to avoid a constitutional crisis and come up with ways, creative ways, in which to make these materials available,” Holder this week told Sen. Charles Grassley (R-Iowa), the ranking minority member of the Senate Judiciary Committee.
At issue is Holder’s refusal to turn over tens of thousands of F&F documents that have been under subpoena since last fall. So far, Justice has managed to slow-walk about 7,600 up Capitol Hill.
Now the embattled Holder wants to deal.“Creatively,” whatever that means.
Sorry, Mr. AG — you had your chance to come clean and you blew it. Now it’s time to play Truth or Consequences.
Next Wednesday, the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, headed by Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.), will decide whether to move a long-threatened contempt citation forward to the full House...
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And, despite Holder’s delaying tactics, the truth about how that insanity came about has been clear for some time: A cabal of officials at the highest levels of the Justice Department authorized the operation as part of the Obama administration’s “stealth” gun-control strategy — presumably to make it appear that the horrific violence of Mexico’s drug war is partly our fault...
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Still no guarantee that what he turns over be complete and they will not submit anything that would incriminate themselves. You can be sure this is just a stall again hoping that it will last until King Obama is reelected.
Holder and Obama hold the insider trading info that has the power to be more than a mere distraction if things start getting too hot. Holder will start investigating and charging members of Congress for everything from theft of government services to grand larceny.
Holder doesn’t have to produce a damn thing and Issa knows it.
The “constitutional crisis” Holder refers to is nothing less than open war between the executive branch and republican members of congress.
Obama will attempt to adjourn congress and it that doesn’t fly, he’ll have Holder start arresting them - -
That seems pretty realistic.
That is the money line.
Never happen. Holder wasn't held accountable by the Bush Administration or the DoJ for his role in the Marc Rich last-minute pardon under the Clinton Administration. He ain't gonna be held accountable for this either. Republican's don't have the testicular fortitude to do it.
Note: I would be ECSTATIC to be proven wrong on this point, sadly I know I won't.
That's about how they do it in Kenya, isn't it? The rotten apple sure doesn't fall far from the morally corrupt tree now does it?
Hey now...
What the media constantly fails to disclose is the insane and clearly suspicious portion of redaction of the documents. So the 7,600 pages of toilet paper DON'T COUNT.
Yes.
And if so, then he will be "pardoned"...and he will stay on...forever.
Obama will then plan on staying in office, and will not allow any further elections. The Constitution will be formally dead, as was Mexico's under Santa Anna, the Napolean of the West. Only our dictator is going to be more like Mao Tse Tung.
It has nothing to do with testicular fortitude and everything to do with media. Republicans that stood up for constitutional principles have been destroyed by the MSM, repeatedly over the last few decades. Now there is enough new media, and the MSM has lost enough credibility, that they can be destroyed from two fronts: the MSM and the new media.
Now even relatively minor scandals that would have brought down a Republican, but never have bothered a Democrat, can bring down Democrats, such as Weiner in the twitter scandal. Republicans such as Lugar have shown that conventional appeasement of the MSM is not a safe harbor.
Old Republicans have to fear both the MSM and the new media, so they are caught between a rock and a hard place.
Democrats have only the new media to fear, but they feared nothing before.
We have been transitioning into a new age since 1994.
I didn't have to read beyond this statement to know the rest was crap, but I read it anyway so here goes: Your own argument contradicts itself.
You hourself pointed out Weiner a Democrat was brought down in a twitter scandal, and that Dick Lugar, an old-guard republican wasn't safe appeasing the media.
If Boehner and the Republican's had the balls, they'd go full bore after Holder. Using your own argument and logic, no Democrat or Republican is safe so why wouldn't they turn on Holder? Hell, they're already starting to turn on Obama as recent published stories indicate.
But as I said, Boehner lacks the testicular fortitude (BALLS) to do it. That makes him a spineless COWARD in my book, and time for the Tea Party to show him the door too.
"You hourself pointed out Weiner a Democrat was brought down in a twitter scandal, and that Dick Lugar, an old-guard republican wasn't safe appeasing the media.
If Boehner and the Republican’s had the balls, they'd go full bore after Holder. Using your own argument and logic, no Democrat or Republican is safe so why wouldn't they turn on Holder? Hell, they're already starting to turn on Obama as recent published stories indicate.
But as I said, Boehner lacks the testicular fortitude (BALLS) to do it. That makes him a spineless COWARD in my book, and time for the Tea Party to show him the door too."
marktwain replies:
I was demonstrating that the new media is gaining power, and the old media is losing power. This hardly means that the old guard Republicans understand it and have digested it, after decades of the MSM having dominance with almost no conservative media.
They may well turn on Holder, if they see the MSM turning on him by publishing more anti-Holder stories. The fact is, non of Fast and Furious would ever have come to light without the new media. The new media is what allows the Tea Party to organize and to thrive.
I agree that we would be better off with a new generation of Tea Party Republican than Boehner. One with less baggage would be less subject to MSM pressure, and less in the habit of bowing to it.
Do you think that the Democrats showed testicular fortitude by going after Nixon in Watergate? By that time they knew there was no downside for them in the MSM, and the Republicans knew that to go against the MSM was near suicidal.
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