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SCOTUS decision thread for Monday, June 25th, 2012 (10am EDT)

Posted on 06/25/2012 3:10:01 AM PDT by Perdogg

1. Az Immigration Case

2. Stolen Valor Act

3. ObamaCare Mandate

4. ObamaCare Severability


TOPICS: Breaking News; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 3threadswithnothing; fooledyouagain; justjokingagain; negativenaybobsofneg; notbreakingnews; notreallybreaking; perdogg; ruling; sb1070; scotus; vanity
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To: Perdogg

Popcorn ping ...


281 posted on 06/25/2012 7:49:55 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: 9YearLurker

The upshot of the SB1070 ruling is that, for now, Arizona can apply the “check your papers” provision. And the Court’s opinion is a guide to the State on how to apply that provision without being invalidated


282 posted on 06/25/2012 7:50:07 AM PDT by MindBender26 (America can survive 4 years of Romney. She cannot survive another 4 years of an unfettered Obama!)
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To: cajungirl

You are not alone in that feeling.


283 posted on 06/25/2012 7:50:14 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: dfwgator

The Supreme Court does not want to be seen as ‘extremist’ - it shouldn’t be that way, but that’s the reality (IMHO)


284 posted on 06/25/2012 7:50:57 AM PDT by Bill Buckner
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

Very well written.


285 posted on 06/25/2012 7:51:38 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Shadowfax; Williams

Williams reminds me of Eeyore: “We’re doomed...we’re finished...might as well accept our doom”


286 posted on 06/25/2012 7:52:00 AM PDT by Artcore
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To: mrs9x
Maybe the Court wanted to throw the administration a bone before it strikes down Obamacare.

That'd be a hell of a way to interpret the Constitution for something so vital as immigration enforcement. Remember all those Justices' negative.. almost dismissive.. reactions to the arguments of the Solicitor General? They gave off exactly the same countenance during the Obamacare arguments.

It appears the Justices have tipped their hand as to how the Obamacare endgame will play out. I'm very pessimistic that it'll be struck down.

287 posted on 06/25/2012 7:52:24 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

That’s not a good sign. Roberts is compromised. It’s what I feared all along but I was hoping it was just my imagination.


288 posted on 06/25/2012 7:52:34 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: apillar
Actually it's my understanding that CJ Roberts joining the majority on Arizona was more tactical than a reflection of his actual views. If he would have joined Alito, Thomas, and Scalia. The court would have split 4-4 (Kagan recused) and the 9th circuit ruling striking down ALL of the Arizona law would have stood. So in joining with the majority he got Arizona 1/4 of a loaf, which I suppose is better than nothing.

Interesting viewpoint. I suppose we will have to wait until he writes his memoirs to find out for sure.

289 posted on 06/25/2012 7:52:55 AM PDT by CedarDave
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To: Mr Rogers
So if Arizona gave every illegal immigrant a bus ticket to NYC and a promise of a Debit card for 100 dollars as they get on the bus to NYC, that would be legal. Let Chucky Schummer explain why he's an Anti Mexican bigot when he wants them to stop. Let the streets of Manhattan become a crowded Mexican slum.

Open the border and get the buses rolling.

290 posted on 06/25/2012 7:53:20 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: ScottinVA

I’m fairly certain that the individual mandate will be struck down. My fear is that that will be the only thing struck down.


291 posted on 06/25/2012 7:54:04 AM PDT by Shadowfax
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To: ScottinVA

States enforcing what constitutes breaches in immigration laws is unconstitutional. Had this been upheld - every state in the Union could have their own immigration requirements.

So it’s a very good ruling by SCOTUS here.


292 posted on 06/25/2012 7:54:04 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: Truth29

What’s the point in allowing officers to check the papers if nothing can be done?

This is exactly why Texas stayed out of passing Arizona type laws.

While Rick Perry supported Arizona, he realized it would get bogged down in expensive and fruitless federal interference.


293 posted on 06/25/2012 7:54:32 AM PDT by altura
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To: dfwgator

The AZ Decision was based on the State taking over border controls, which is a function of the Federal Government.

What it SHOULD have been about was the State ENFORCING FEDERAL LAW, when the FedGov refuses to.


294 posted on 06/25/2012 7:54:46 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: Truth29

I don’t agree with the way the federals handle their end of the bargain but the valid argument was the federal government has already claimed immigration as its own province and has rules in place with which the Arizona law will conflict.
Here’s a question for everyone. Does this mean that if we take both houses this fall that they can pass laws granting some enforcement back to the states? Essentially making this ruling moot?


295 posted on 06/25/2012 7:56:11 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: Williams

After the Arizona vote today, I am very, very concerned if Roberts and Kennedy are writing the healthcare decision. This Arizona decision spits in the face of any legal alien who waited in line, payed the money and entered the USA the correct way.


296 posted on 06/25/2012 7:56:42 AM PDT by Batman11 (Obama's poll numbers are so low the Kenyans are claiming he was born in the USA!)
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To: Cheerio
given that Reuters is part of the well established DBM, this headline must be designed to create sympathy for the poor little beleaguered Barry the clown.
297 posted on 06/25/2012 7:56:52 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Cheerio

“But but but didn’t the WH jester just pronounce that his ICE will not take action against these “undocumented DemocRATS”, no matter how the police waste their time?”

Then it’s the duty of We the People not to vote for him in 2012.


298 posted on 06/25/2012 7:56:52 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: kabar

By the Court holding that immigration is a federal matter, did they not through the back door just strike down all “sanctuary” state and city laws? If a future POTUS gets tough on illegals, cities and states will be unable to interfere by passing their little sanctuary ordinances.


299 posted on 06/25/2012 7:57:08 AM PDT by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts so good.)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000
Immigration is a Federal concern, even if, as with Dumb0, he chooses not to enforce it. We need the laws in place and constitutional so the next person who becomes pres wont’ abuse his authority - whether at the Fed or State level.

Then it would seem sanctuary city and state practices should become a thing of the past, because they don't comport with Federal law.

300 posted on 06/25/2012 7:57:58 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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