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Roberts' Ruling Took Guts
Townhall.com ^ | June 29, 2012 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 06/29/2012 5:34:04 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 06/29/2012 5:34:08 AM PDT by Kaslin
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We hired Roberts to do a job. He did not do it. What he did was activism from the bench. He and the other 4 justices spit in the face of all Americans.


2 posted on 06/29/2012 5:37:43 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks!)
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To: Kaslin

This was the same guy who voted to uphold the 2nd amendment on a number of cases. It boggles the mind, this decision.

I think he became ‘belt-wayed’. The parties with the liberal washington in crowd. The brain washed spouse. And the promise of peace at home(whip cracking sound).

I hate DC


3 posted on 06/29/2012 5:38:16 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Kaslin

Very fine article, and not at all what I expected from the headline.

Jonah nails it.


4 posted on 06/29/2012 5:40:36 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (T)
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To: Kaslin

It must have taken guts — it sure as hell didn’t take any brains.


5 posted on 06/29/2012 5:40:41 AM PDT by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Rempublicam)
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To: Kaslin

Somebody’s been reading too much VDH!


6 posted on 06/29/2012 5:41:40 AM PDT by Lady Lucky
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To: Vaquero

He has also refused to hear several cases of blatantly unconstitutional oppression of religious freedom, letting lower court ruling of suppression stand.

I’m beginning to see that Roberts may be “coming out” as many now liberal justices have done.


7 posted on 06/29/2012 5:41:46 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Kaslin
Roberts' Ruling Took Guts

Right. So did what Benedict Arnold did. Moron.

8 posted on 06/29/2012 5:42:32 AM PDT by GoldenPup (Comrade "O" has got to GO!!)
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To: Kaslin

Playing political games, especially because you’re trying to make nice with the Socialist-Liberals who hate you, in NOT the friggin’ job of a Justice of the Supreme Court. He was to rule on the Constitutionality of the Commerce Clause. But, he went a step farther and said: “Yeah; it Unconstitutional, but I’ll call it a Tax and let this p.o.s. stand.”
He has betrayed his office and this nation.


9 posted on 06/29/2012 5:43:15 AM PDT by no dems (TED CRUZ: A PROVEN CONSERVATIVE FOR U.S. SENATE FROM TEXAS.)
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To: Kaslin

I’ve been listening to Bill Bennett’s show since 0500 this morning. He has had lots of good guests on. Nobody can explain why the traitor Roberts has done this. Nobody.

He rewrote the law for the administration and CONVERTED the mandate to a tax and it never was. IF he was being clever he has been too clever by half. I think he was bought or threatened. He had to contort his logic to “justify” this.

Will someone, can someone enumerate and value the taxes in this monstrosity, let alone the freedoms it destroys.

I think I just heard Paul Ryan say there are 28 taxes buried in this. It is massively flawed. Can’t the republicans communicate, in some simple terms, what this has in it to the people?

I already hear working class people interviewed who are saying that they can’t afford any new costs. None. No new insurance and no new taxes. They are tapped out.


10 posted on 06/29/2012 5:44:19 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (You've been screwed by your government.)
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To: Vaquero

In the end he thought more of himself and an institution that he thought of his country.


11 posted on 06/29/2012 5:45:31 AM PDT by Old North State
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“Some of Roberts’ defenders claim he's outmaneuvered everyone. By upholding ObamaCare, he's made future conservative decisions unassailable. He's poisoned the well of the commerce clause for liberals. He's removed the court as an election-year issue. He's gift-wrapped for Mitt Romney the attack that Obama has raised taxes massively, violating a host of promises and assurances. And, again, he's saved the legitimacy of the court.”

I prayed that it would be squashed yesterday, but I was not so naive to not consider the consequences if it had been so.

In reality though, all of the above is perfectly true.

Let zero talk his way out of the new mega TAX. Put the ball back in Congress’s court. It is true, Governments can TAX at will, but they do so at their own peril. This election has been gift wrapped for the GOP. Nothing More Nothing Less.

The Left even now are saying that this will all be forgotten by Nov. BS!!!!!!!!

Roberts, made it perfectly clear. WE THE PEOPLE still RULE!!

Let him try to tax us to fund abortions. The “Affordable Care Act” is going to die a slow painful death by a 1,000 cuts.

12 posted on 06/29/2012 5:47:06 AM PDT by BornToBeAmerican (Things aren't as good as they should be and its Obama's fault, the resident said)
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Over all there is now new rules to follow in from both Arizona and Obamacare. For the long haul it will define more clearly the basic bill creation. Laws cant mandate you to purchase unless you want to tax people. We need to change back congress to states getting their Senators. That alone will alter the Congress.

Eventually laws get reversed but from now on illegals and commerce will be changed forever.


13 posted on 06/29/2012 5:47:31 AM PDT by Baseballguy (If we knew what we know now in Oct would we do anything different?)
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The one thing folks forget is that zero has bribe files on everyone in power.

Remember the Build-a-burgers were in town right before this vote!


14 posted on 06/29/2012 5:47:58 AM PDT by seeker41 (CULPRIT CHINESE COMPANY INFO.)
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He's poisoned the well of the commerce clause for liberals.

I don't understand this line of reasoning.

Roberts' limitation on the Commerce Clause was set forth in part III-A of his opinion.

But NONE of the four liberals joined him as to part III-A of his opinion.

So Roberts did not convince any of the four liberals that the federal government's power is limited under the Commerce Clause.

The four conservatives (including Kennedy for this purpose) DID agree that ObamaCare was invalid under the Commerce Clause.

So it was 5-4 on the Commerce Clause.

And if Roberts had NOT upheld ObamaCare under the taxing power, it would still have been 5-4 on the Commerce Clause.

So I don't see how anyone can say that Roberts "poisoned the well of the Commerce Clause for liberals."

If Obama wins and appoints another liberal, then it will be 5-4 that the Commerce Clause does NOT limit government power.

And in that day, the fact that Roberts upheld ObamaCare won't make a bit of difference.

The liberal justices did not believe the Commerce Clause limited the power of government before Roberts' bizarre action, and they do not believe it afterward.

15 posted on 06/29/2012 5:48:50 AM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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Yes it did take brains to so intricately twist that legal pretzel to transform a penalty into a tax, especially given the language of the bill. I am going to agree with Goldberg, Roberts likely doesn’t even believe his own twisted reasoning. He made the decision purely on political grounds, to either save his arse from threats, or save the image of the Court.


16 posted on 06/29/2012 5:49:57 AM PDT by HerrBlucher
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They got to him. He sold. The logic is so contorted as to be unrealistic. There are also messages in the ruling such as “not up to the court to protect the electorate from politicians they elect.”

Someone said that Granny Ginsberg threatened to retire. I got news for him... she will soon anyway. She will not last the next administration and won’t take the chance on a pubbie being on seat. I’m wondering what difference that makes any more though.


17 posted on 06/29/2012 5:51:59 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (You've been screwed by your government.)
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I know it isn't the popular view at this moment, but I'm starting to think that, in fact, Roberts really snookered the libs into voting for HIS interpretation, which was not the smack-down but was probably much more damaging to liberalism over the long haul. The severe limitation of the commerce clause and the striking down of the Medicare imposition on states ripped the real guts out of Obamacare, while upholding the tax puts it back in the hands of Congress (where it should be) and allows us with reconciliation to eliminate it. Obviously, Obama will veto, and obviously, then, nothing will be funded.

If I understand the structure right, without the Medicare taxes on the states, and without taxes passed by the House, this thing is dead as Ronnie James Dio.

18 posted on 06/29/2012 5:53:30 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: HerrBlucher

In spite of him self and his intentions, if Patriots are activated by this misguided activism of Roberts and manage to right this wrong, then Roberts’ action will be good...in spite of him.


19 posted on 06/29/2012 5:56:01 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Kaslin

I’m sick up to here with the ROberts apologists. I do not see the pony that they do in this pile of crap.


20 posted on 06/29/2012 5:59:55 AM PDT by SueRae (See it? Hell, I can TASTE November from my house!)
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