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RIP: United States of America
7/3/12 | originalbuckeye

Posted on 07/03/2012 8:00:55 PM PDT by originalbuckeye

September 17 1787-June 28 2012

The once great USA died last Thursday. The American Dream, work hard and get ahead without oppressive Government interference, is gone for now. What will rise from the ashes of the Obama and SCOTUS destruction?


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I am truly physically ill from the UnConstitutional ruling last Thursday. Can we resurrect the once Great USA? This election is the most important election since the beginning of our once great country. Please VOTE! And try to persuade your Lefty friends to stay away. If they can't vote for Romney, tell them not to vote at all. Our country's very survival depends on the election in Nov 2012. Obama must GO!
1 posted on 07/03/2012 8:01:03 PM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: originalbuckeye

Obama will go...and it won’t make any difference.


2 posted on 07/03/2012 8:03:14 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: originalbuckeye
No, its the end. The nation will be divided along political lines. Will the breakup be violent or peaceful, that is the question. But it will not be the United States in the next 2 years.
3 posted on 07/03/2012 8:03:38 PM PDT by Crazieman (Are you naive enough to think VOTING will fix this entrenched system?)
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To: originalbuckeye

It’s a damn shame Roberts pulled his sh*t so close to the 4th of July. He sure knows how to screw up a good holiday.


4 posted on 07/03/2012 8:06:03 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (ObamaCare is only the beginning. It's all downhill from here.)
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To: originalbuckeye
RIP: United States of America

Amen

5 posted on 07/03/2012 8:06:46 PM PDT by doc1019 (Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.)
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To: Crazieman

Gadsden flying tomorrow.


6 posted on 07/03/2012 8:15:16 PM PDT by Kudsman
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To: doc1019

It was dead even before this.


7 posted on 07/03/2012 8:16:51 PM PDT by Husker24
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To: doc1019

It was dead even before this.


8 posted on 07/03/2012 8:16:54 PM PDT by Husker24
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To: originalbuckeye

It isn’t going to rest in peace.

We are in for Hell.


9 posted on 07/03/2012 8:19:58 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: chris37
We are. People are openly discussing the possibility of civil war.
10 posted on 07/03/2012 8:22:54 PM PDT by Crazieman (Are you naive enough to think VOTING will fix this entrenched system?)
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To: Kudsman

Yeah, me too. The Gadsden will be out along with the Goliad “Come and take it”.


11 posted on 07/03/2012 8:25:19 PM PDT by davetex (Sick of moochers)
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To: davetex

Good Lord, not Goliad, I meant Gonzales.


12 posted on 07/03/2012 8:28:01 PM PDT by davetex (Sick of moochers)
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To: Crazieman

Some are still discussing. Some are preparing as well. Some are still sleeping and will be until they fall out of bed, or Ellen is cancelled.


13 posted on 07/03/2012 8:34:29 PM PDT by Kudsman
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To: originalbuckeye

No. Our republic survived Carter, and other poor presidents and activist judges, and far worse, including the Great Depression and WW2, and recovered and flourished.

I refuse to accept that a pathetic little weasel like Obama, and those like him who continue to worship socialism, can bring our country to its knees, or even close to destruction. Not as long as there is breath left in my body, a capacity to think, and power to take action. And I am sure that there are millions of us that feel the same way.

RINOs, semi-conservatives, aisle-straddlers and liberal ass-kissers need to choose now...they can fight with us, or join the communists in defeat. It is time to get off the fence and choose freedom, or choose tyranny. This may be the last time we get to choose freely, so choose wisely.

I will fight at the ballot box, I will fight in my community, I will proclaim our message of freedom and liberty everywhere I go, and if need be, I will fight in the streets. No surrender, ever. This is the last great bastion of Christianity, freedom and conservatism on earth, there is nowhere else to go. It is us against the world. It is here that we will make our stand and remain free men, or perish fighting for that right. We are the next greatest generation, and we will defeat the scourge of liberalism and socialism.


14 posted on 07/03/2012 8:48:20 PM PDT by Ironfocus (O Must Go)
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To: originalbuckeye

More little kids indoctrinated into Socialism by their union labor-controlled political hacks posing as teachers? So they can someday vote for their favorite Socialist posing as a Democrat? So they can serve their Dictator in the White House posing as a President?


15 posted on 07/03/2012 8:52:42 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: Crazieman
We are. People are openly discussing the possibility of civil war.

It's understandable because people are so frustrated with the utterly gutless leaders on the right. They continue to fail us.

The natural spirit is for Americans to fight for our Liberties. However, it must be done in a way to accomplish the restoration of a government our Founders would respect.

A civil war is not feasible nor something people should advocate, but Rev 2.0 is possible. I wrote below on an earlier thread.

A true Rev 2.0 to succeed would have grow out of action by the States. True Liberty and a limited Constitutional Republic can be realized again across our land by one of two ways:

(1) A total,sudden economic collapse or

(2) by the several States rightfully and legally (Constitutionally) rolling back the unconstitutional parts of our Socialist government. (1) no one should want. As far as (2) we are not there yet both in terms of conditions and leadership.

My fear is some aspect of (1) will occur prompting uncertainty and a lot of pain. The flip side of that is (2) would happen is short order.

16 posted on 07/03/2012 8:53:14 PM PDT by sand88
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To: originalbuckeye
Stop pulling others down. Pick up a flag, American or ANY of the Revolutionary War flags and shove it up the arse of the enemy in whatever manners you see best.
You need to get out of the slow lane on this Freedom-retaking-highway and get in the FAST lane.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8C7i9kdEf8

17 posted on 07/03/2012 8:53:36 PM PDT by TheCause ("that these United Colonies are, and of right ought to be, free and independent States")
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To: originalbuckeye
R.I.P.
18 posted on 07/03/2012 8:55:58 PM PDT by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: Crazieman
Kalifornia will be the first State on the West coast to go 100% government OPERATED. The totalitarians in Kalifornia are busy kicking the private sector businesses out as we speak. Then on the East coast you have Washington D.C. which is already nearly 100% government OPERATED.

Like wildfire these two machines will eventually meet in the middle, and that's when the push back comes. The mid west will then become the BATTLE ground states, so to speak. Time to move!

19 posted on 07/03/2012 8:57:51 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: Crazieman

Yeah, I know.

We are in dangerous, dangerous territory now.

Where ever this ends up, it isn’t going to be good, and it is going to be hard.


20 posted on 07/03/2012 8:57:54 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: DogByte6RER

You too!

Stop pulling others down. Pick up a flag, American or ANY of the Revolutionary War flags and shove it up the arse of the enemy in whatever manners you see best.
You need to get out of the slow lane on this Freedom-retaking-highway and get in the FAST lane.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8C7i9kdEf8


21 posted on 07/03/2012 9:00:48 PM PDT by TheCause ("that these United Colonies are, and of right ought to be, free and independent States")
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To: originalbuckeye

“Can we resurrect the once Great USA?”

Maybe, but I doubt it... and if we can, it will not be done with ballots.


22 posted on 07/03/2012 9:22:26 PM PDT by Gator113 (***YOU GAVE it to Obama. I would have voted for NEWT.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: originalbuckeye

Was there a thread just 4 years ago entitled, “RIP: United States of America” on FreeRepublic.com? Unbelievable what has happened in under 4 years.


23 posted on 07/03/2012 9:24:56 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: Gator113

There are too many people in this country whose allegiance lies elsewhere. Most Hispanics, for example, and there are many. The government will use them against us. 0bama already is, with his grand amnesty plan aimed at providing free health care and other services for them, while smothering us. Mexicans are familiar with corruption, so life under our government.. It’s a match made in heaven!


24 posted on 07/03/2012 9:31:50 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: originalbuckeye

America is dead and gone. The final nail in the coffin was the 2008 election of an African communist as President and Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces. I hate to break this to you, buckeye, but there’s no point hanging onto the past.

America had a great run. Remember it fondly for what it was.

The United States of America is now little more than a big land mass populated by cretins and parasites who have absolutely no respect for the military and who vote for big government to confiscate money from their neighbors and “redistribute” it to them in exchange for their votes. It is not an America worth defending anymore. That America no longer exists.

The parasites outnumber the hosts now, and there’s no going back. The Democrats have won. Throw some cold water in your face and figure out how to grab every government dime you possibly can before the parasites gobble it all up. Every man for himself. Good luck, everybody.

FRegards,
LH


25 posted on 07/03/2012 9:43:32 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Crazieman
No, its the end. The nation will be divided along political lines. Will the breakup be violent or peaceful, that is the question. But it will not be the United States in the next 2 years.

I know. Mom is so fired up, she'll be 74 next month, if I had a Sherman Jumbo tank, she's be driving it to DC. B-) B-P I think you'll see us Balkanize at some point. If we can keep a "rump USA" with the Constitutionally based system, I'd be OK with that.
26 posted on 07/03/2012 9:46:23 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Justice Roberts knows the Constitution as much as the hominids know about the Monolith in "2001")
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To: Lancey Howard; originalbuckeye

I read in a book called (if my memory serves...) “A Patriot’s Guide to American History” that only a third of the colonists supported the revolution.

You might be surprised, especially when things really start to suck.


27 posted on 07/03/2012 9:46:52 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (If there is a war on women, the Kennedys are the Spec Ops troops.)
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To: originalbuckeye; All
Some people might view this as more than just bad news. While this ruling may have created some obstacles to freedom, it also produced many opportunities for some people to take definite action. Just consider it carefully. Congress can pass a law which regulates commerce in a manner which they do not have the power to do because it is actually a tax, not a regulation of commerce. Even though it regulates commerce. Make sense? Not to me either, but it is what it is, and others can use that to their advantage. Somebody could, for instance, go out and craft legislation which fines, I'm sorry, taxes all people who aren't Christian, particularly Muslims, something like $100,000 per year. Freedom of religion would have been a problem up till this ruling, but no more. Now the government could simply call it a tax and viola, no constitutional conflicts can exist. Neat trick eh? We just have to hope that the Muslims don't think of it first.
28 posted on 07/03/2012 9:48:50 PM PDT by cothrige
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To: originalbuckeye
It is too late. As Mark Levin said, "the constitution has been gravely wounded by Roberts."

Mitch McConnell is already balking at repealing Obamatax...it's game over. Not to mention the economy is tanking again. It's over. Be prepared for the worst.

29 posted on 07/03/2012 9:58:43 PM PDT by blasater1960 (Deut 30, Psalm 111...the Torah and the Law, is attainable past, present and forever.)
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To: TheCause

Thank you!

What a bunch of whiners. We have work to do.


30 posted on 07/03/2012 10:10:03 PM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: davetex
Good Lord, not Goliad, I meant Gonzales.

I forgive you. We're all too upset to think straight right now.

I don't have an actual Gonzales flag to fly, but I do have a window sticker that my wife got me some time back. It's going on the truck tomorrow.

31 posted on 07/03/2012 10:29:35 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: originalbuckeye

Read my tagline.


32 posted on 07/03/2012 10:31:01 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: davetex
"Good Lord, not Goliad, I meant Gonzales."

I love the Gonzales Flag, I fly it... but I also love the Goliad flag and it's meaning of "I would rather cut off my right arm than to live under tyranny".

Props to the Goliad flag.


33 posted on 07/03/2012 10:37:16 PM PDT by GregoTX (Federalist)
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To: Ironfocus
I will fight at the ballot box, I will fight in my community, I will proclaim our message of freedom and liberty everywhere I go, and if need be, I will fight in the streets. No surrender, ever. This is the last great bastion of Christianity, freedom and conservatism on earth, there is nowhere else to go. It is us against the world. It is here that we will make our stand and remain free men, or perish fighting for that right. We are the next greatest generation, and we will defeat the scourge of liberalism and socialism.

I'm with you, friend. I believe exactly as you do, and am similarly dedicated to fighting for my America until the last breath. You're also correct that there are millions out there who feel exactly as we do. I believe with every fiber of my being that we will prevail, 'interesting times' notwithstanding.

34 posted on 07/03/2012 10:37:44 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: TheCause
Pick up a flag, American or ANY of the Revolutionary War flags and shove it up the arse of the enemy in whatever manners you see best.

Right on...


35 posted on 07/03/2012 10:40:55 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: originalbuckeye
Our country's very survival depends on the election in Nov 2012.

No, our country's survival depends on the willingness of We the People to refresh the Tree of Liberty from time to time, with its natural manure or other means if available. Defeatism, or placing your faith in Mordor-on-the-Potomac are not survival options to choose from.

"And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor."

36 posted on 07/03/2012 11:27:49 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse
I read in a book called (if my memory serves...) “A Patriot’s Guide to American History” that only a third of the colonists supported the revolution.

Written by FReeper "LS." Welcome to FR.

37 posted on 07/03/2012 11:32:37 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: originalbuckeye

I am truly physically ill from the UnConstitutional ruling last Thursday. Can we resurrect the once Great USA?


There *is* something we can do about that. A *constitutional amendment* may be necessary to abolish this SCOTUS newly endorsed “penalty tax”. It should also prohibit the Congress from using any “penalty tax” to coerce any activity or non-activity. It may even be necessary to more clearly define the original constitutional limits on the taxing powers of Congress.

Conservatives definitely think that this “penalty tax” is an assault on freedom. And I think liberals will be scared of it too when they no longer control the Senate and White House in 2013 (I hope!). I wouldn’t worry too much about inaction by weak-kneed Boehner and Mitchell. With a new Republican president and a bunch of new Tea Party senators and representatives, they *will* work on passing this amendment. Or, if necessary, a majority of states can call for a constitutional convention to pass this amendment. That’s another reason to cast your vote for conservatives this November and every other election all the way up and down the ticket from your local dog catcher to president.

It might also be a good time to fix some other supposed vagueness in the US Constitution, like:

the right of the *people* to keep and bear arms, as well as a well regulated Militia;

abolishing the idea of “anchor babies”. Only children born of legal US citizens can automatically be granted US citizenship;

to qualify for the office of president, the person must have both parents be US citizens.


38 posted on 07/03/2012 11:45:41 PM PDT by Synthesist
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To: ladyL; Yehuda; 444Flyer
The once great USA died last Thursday. The American Dream, work hard and get ahead without oppressive Government interference, is gone for now. What will rise from the ashes of the Obama and SCOTUS destruction?

Just posting this for future reference, as yet another intriguing time/date pattern-picture.

The electors record[ed] their votes on six "Certificates of Vote," which are paired with the six remaining Certificates of Ascertainment. The electors sign[ed], seal[ed] and certify[-ied] packages of electoral votes and immediately send [sent] one set of votes to the President of the Senate and two sets to the Archivist. The Federal Register preserves one archival set and holds the reserve set subject to the call of the President of the Senate to replace missing or incomplete electoral votes.

Electoral College 2008 Dates

The statutory deadline for the designated Federal and State officials to receive the electoral votes is December 24, 2008. Because of the very short time between the meetings of the electors in the States on December 15 and the December 24 statutory deadline, followed closely by the counting of electoral votes in Congress on January 6, 2009, it is imperative that the Certificates be mailed as soon as possible.

We strongly recommend that the sealed pairs of Certificates be taken to the Post Office on December 15, or no later than the morning of December 16, to minimize delays that could occur during the holiday mail season. Some States may find it useful to alert their local Postmaster to the extraordinarily important nature of the mailing. When the paired Certificates of Vote and Certificates of Ascertainment have been delivered to the designated Federal and State officials, the States' Electoral College duties are complete.

Transmission of Certificates of Vote to NARA

These are common themes and lamentations:

The once great USA died last Thursday. The American Dream, work hard and get ahead without oppressive Government interference, is gone for now.

And...

I am truly physically ill from the UnConstitutional ruling last Thursday. Can we resurrect the once Great USA? This election is the most important election since the beginning of our once great country.

The American Dream, work hard and get ahead...

About that daily [sacrifice] (hatamid) being abolished:

A continuance is "the period during which something exists, lasts, or is in progress"

Which reminds me of the other comment at the top of this thread:

September 17 1787-June 28 2012

The Constitution of the United States is the supreme law of the United States of America.<<<

The Constitution guides American society in law and political culture. It is the oldest charter of supreme law in continuous use, and it influenced later international figures establishing national constitutions<<<

US Constitution

Now that all together paints quite a picture. To round up the Hebrew concordance links above, they all can be found here:

Dan 12:11 And from the time [that] the daily [sacrifice] shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, [there shall be] a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

"Election" isn't mentioned in that one, but it can be inferred from verse 1:

Dan 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation [even] to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

Eh, no wonder these themes/allegories/concepts/didactic messages slide right under the radar. Anyway, I have found it beneficial over the years to hand code my posts. It's an effective mnemonic device.

Billy Ray: What if I can't do this job, Coleman? What if I'm not what they expected?
Coleman: Just be yourself, sir. Whatever happens, they can't take that away from you.

39 posted on 07/03/2012 11:51:07 PM PDT by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: DTogo

Modor-on-the-Potomac

Funny, sad and true description.


40 posted on 07/04/2012 12:01:41 AM PDT by myheroesareDeadandRegistered
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To: GregoTX

CLAN WALLACE ARM AND SWORD

41 posted on 07/04/2012 12:12:59 AM PDT by Eastbound (3-7-77)
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To: Gator113

“Maybe, but I doubt it... and if we can, it will not be done with ballots.”

I agree and have prepared for the death of this Republic. Only God’s intervention can save this country and, as a country, God has been thrown under the bus.


42 posted on 07/04/2012 12:23:44 AM PDT by Marcella (God wouldn't vote for Romney so I won't, either.)
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To: Gator113

“Maybe, but I doubt it... and if we can, it will not be done with ballots.”

I agree and have prepared for the death of this Republic. Only God’s intervention can save this country and, as a country, God has been thrown under the bus.


43 posted on 07/04/2012 12:29:47 AM PDT by Marcella (The power to tax is the power to destroy.)
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To: originalbuckeye

We are doomed. We have allowed God and His SON to be kicked out of this once fine country....we noaw have ABORTION CELEBRATED and HOMOSEXULAITY CELEBRATED even in our MILITARY. This cannot stand as a Godly country.


44 posted on 07/04/2012 3:46:29 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: chris37

amen.


45 posted on 07/04/2012 3:47:49 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ironfocus

We are now all of that plus we have MORE BAORTIONS and MORE HOMOSEXUALITY than any other country.


46 posted on 07/04/2012 3:49:21 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: originalbuckeye

I could not agree more with what you have said. I will work tirelessly to oust this POTUS. However, after much thought about this, if we lose I will withdraw from the Republican Party and change my status to Libertarian. I realize how important this election is, but will not continue to be a flag waver for a party that takes us into the abyss without a fight. I am starting to get queasy about this election and hope it is just nervousness. I am working the phones and walking precincts to get the word out. We should all be doing something to get rid of this guy. As for Romney, I think we will have to bring him over the line kicking and screaming so to speak. If he wins, I will work tirelessly to kick his ass to the right! and keep him there. We also need the Senate and the House and that is so important for us to succeed at keeping Romney where we need him. Tell you what Buckeye, this is as hard a job as the one I give 40hrs a week to. It should not be this hard, but alas, that is where we are in 2012.


47 posted on 07/04/2012 4:45:50 AM PDT by marygam (#Hurry November 2012, we might not make it#)
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Is this our last Independence Day, Lord?

ff

48 posted on 07/04/2012 5:00:49 AM PDT by foreverfree
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To: Husker24

It died when abortion was legalized, and the upholding of affirmative action was the final nail in the coffin.

When these patriotic WWII movies are aired, I wonder how many people realize the country at that time bears no resemblance to the United Socialist States of America today. A WWII soldier wouldn’t even recognize it.


49 posted on 07/04/2012 5:03:34 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: TheCause

I won’t go so far as to say “No American flags” (as they did at the Million Moocher March years ago), but
I would suggest using an earlier flag (such as the Revolutionary War flags you reference) to draw a distinction between real Americans and those who believe America is a socialist God-hating means to spread similar beliefs around the globe. The 50 star “Union” flag belongs to Obama and his ilk now; they “won”.


50 posted on 07/04/2012 5:09:07 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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