Posted on 07/05/2012 5:46:45 AM PDT by pabianice
Dick Morris now on Fox. Morris says the UN Gun Ban Treaty is scheduled to be signed by Obama's U.S. ambassador to the UN on July 27. According to Morris, treaty will be rammed through by the lame duck Senate after the November election if the Democrats are still in charge. A treaty, of course, supercedes the U.S. Constitution. Interesting months ahead.
If your referring to the spelling error in the first line; it’s not my spelling error. I was replying to someone else. I pasted their quote. If it has a spelling error in it, I leave it. Not my job to correct other posters’ spelling.
It does no such thing. See Post #60 above.
It isn’t coming to a vote.
No, it does not.
Article VI, Clause 2 does NOT say that treaties supersede the Constitution. The Clause, in effect, says that the Constitution, Federal Law, and Treaties are the supreme law of the land, and supersede state laws and state constitutions.
The Constitution is supreme over Federal Laws and Treaties (note that the Clause refers to federal laws “made in pursuance [of the Constitution]” and treaties made “under the authority of the United States” (a treaty can’t be made under the authority of the United States if it is Unconstitutional). Simply put, treaties do not supersede the Constitution.
“A treaty, of course, supercedes the U.S. Constitution.”
Says who?”
According to the Constitution, no treaty may supercede the Constitution of the United States.
But if the UN wants to try to come and get them, it’s their funeral.
2/3 of senators PRESENT. They might try a parliamentary trick where they pass it at 3am when only Dems happen to be present, but that would be raw even by Dem standards.
so then fast and furious wasn’t really necessary?
Constitution? To hell with that little piece of American history.
This magic negro really is something.
Yes, of course. Harry Reid will secretly schedule a vote, only inviting those 51 Senators among whom he can get 34 votes, and the 58 Senators who've already publicly signed letters in opposition, some of whom will have to be invited to get a quorum, will not tell anybody else, or those not invited will stay home and sit on their hands instead of showing up to vote.
I have to say, this thread is an entertaining one.
Whew..that list brings back bad memories...
If true, then the balloon goes up.
Kissinger for one.
The courts for another.
Happens all the time with seamans’ claims. We have treaties which adhere to foreign jurisdiction. Shippers set those up in order to avoid the level playing field of US courts.
If true, then the balloon goes up.
Time to face the facts: The Supreme Court has been compromised.
The next bill that comes along (doesn’t even have to be relevant) will be re-written to re-define the 2nd amendment.
This could happen in the hext few weeks/months. Let’s not kid ourselves and think it won’t happen - it just did!
Then they’ll re-define the 1st amendment. With John Roberts in their pocket, they could actually do all of this before November.
Legal definitions are one thing, reality is another. We are no longer playing by the Constitution.
Obama would EASILY claim the US has “...signed onto the greatest treaty of the world’s nations, to secure our freedom from violence and the criminal international arms dealers, to help prevent wars, violence against women and children, and to give each nation the right to choose for itself if tolerance to violence will be accepted. Therefore, as Narcissist in Chief, I have issued an executive order, under the laws already passed, to curtail gun violence by adherence to this treaty. There will be those that do not like this measure of security for our families, but we must act and act now. I take this bold measure knowing there will be those in Congress who oppose it, but they only respond to big arms corporations and special interests like the NRA and not to you, as I have done with this order.”
DITTO!!!!!! “Come and take them”!
It seems they have forgotten. They must have also forgotten we are being run by the most corrupt administration in American history. These criminals will do what they want, when they want, period. Only one way to deal with them. I have a feeling you know what that is.
Before you say “Sheriff Bob would NEVER do that!”, history suggests otherwise.
So stop dreaming of nice blue helmets, and realize that it would be your neighbors first. Then the US military, and then it won't matter because you will be dead or we will be in a civil war.
The FedGov is operating like Fast and Furious never got found out. They will move to ban guns soon.
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