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An AR-15 rifle and Glock handguns: the legal weapons of James Holmes(al-Guardian)
The Guardian ^

Posted on 07/21/2012 11:40:47 PM PDT by matt04

James Holmes is responsible for one of the largest mass shootings of its kind in US history – but it did not result in the largest number of deaths.

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The police said he appeared to have legally purchased all of the weapons, including a second pistol found in Holmes's car.

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Shotguns and handguns have always been readily available in Colorado, but until eight years ago Holmes would not have been able to buy the AR-15 semi-automatic assault rifle he was carrying quite so easily.

The manufacture and import of AR-15s and similar weapons, such as AK-47s, were banned in the US in 1994. There were also limits on the size of magazines that could be fitted, limiting them to holding no more than 10 bullets.

Those prohibitions fell away 10 years later, and attempts to revive them have failed in the face of objections from the powerful National Rifle Association allowing Holmes not only to purchase the powerful weapon but also to fit it with the magazine drum holding a large number of bullets.

The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence gives Colorado a score of just 15 points out of 100 in assessing adequate gun control laws. It criticises the state for not restricting bulk purchases of weapons, for failing to record identification of weapons so they can be traced, for failing to require any permits to buy a weapon and for permitting large magazines of the kind used by Holmes.

Colorado permits people to carry loaded and concealed weapons with a licence. The NRA is fighting a legal case against the requirement for a permit.

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: auora; jamesholmes
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To: RobbyS

“Why do they obcess so?”

Because it’s their final means of total outright Extortion.

(To steal others assets through the use of threats and /or duress. The plan of the Mandate)


21 posted on 07/22/2012 2:09:40 AM PDT by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: matt04; tsowellfan

Are they also going to ban tubular magazines, shotguns, bolt and lever action rifles? My old Marlin .22 semiautomatic I had as a teen/young adult could’ve caused almost as much damage as whatever weapons the alleged suspect might have used. Any pawn shop will sell you one for less than $100 and how much does a brick of .22 LR cost?


22 posted on 07/22/2012 2:18:04 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Good question!

What they want to do is parade the victims of the shooting to Congress and demand tight gun controls. That’s what they’re saying on twitter.


23 posted on 07/22/2012 2:23:17 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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To: matt04
He had a 100 rd magazine attached to his AR15. Here in Ohio, it's illegal to attach such a magazine to a rifle or handgun so I therefore conclude that this tragedy couldn't possibly have occurred in Ohio because the shooter would have been deterred by the prospect of having a weapons charge tacked onto his multiple murder charges.
24 posted on 07/22/2012 3:21:12 AM PDT by RC one (this space intentionally left blank)
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To: matt04; All
Why is the media saying Holms is the worst mass killer in U.S history?

The Texas tower sniper tragedy took more lives:

Charles Joseph Whitman (June 24, 1941 – August 1, 1966) was a student at the University of Texas at Austin and a former Marine who killed 16 people and wounded 32 others (a total of 49 victims including himself) during a shooting rampage on and around the university's campus on August 1, 1966.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Whitman

25 posted on 07/22/2012 3:58:23 AM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: tsowellfan

What percentage of the legally owned guns in our nation are killing innocent people?

Anybody know?


26 posted on 07/22/2012 4:05:53 AM PDT by gortklattu (God knows who is best, everybody else is making guesses - Tony Snow)
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To: chris37

Both ARE ABSOLUTE COWARDS who dress themselves with as much power as they can in order to assail victims who have far less power.


Good Point!


27 posted on 07/22/2012 4:07:52 AM PDT by gortklattu (God knows who is best, everybody else is making guesses - Tony Snow)
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To: patriot08

William Bonin, John Wayne Gacy and Jeff Dahmer (google around for many, many more) killed lots of people. Let’s outlaw homosexuality.


28 posted on 07/22/2012 4:12:25 AM PDT by gortklattu (God knows who is best, everybody else is making guesses - Tony Snow)
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To: patriot08

Whitman was kept pinned down by the erratic return fire of citizens with deer rifles. If it hadn’t been for the citizens, Whitman’s number would have been much higher. I watched the incident on live TV from the Austin feed.


29 posted on 07/22/2012 4:17:11 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: matt04

Just wondering about the UN vote for our guns...has it already happened? There are conspiracy theories out there because of the surrender not being psychologically consistent...

Article: Dick Morris: Obama to Sign UN Gun-Grab Treaty and RAM IT DOWN OUR THROATS

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2907881/posts

Just the messenger.


30 posted on 07/22/2012 5:25:56 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: vetvetdoug

Fuel for thier agenda. If there ever was a coinsidence we may never know. The fact that we are not drilled every second on him being a teapartier or right leaning bible thumping gun loving rightwing nut we can all assume he is a liberal progressive left leaning drug user.


31 posted on 07/22/2012 5:27:44 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (bb)
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To: matt04

You are correct and in the People’s Republic of new Jersey that is how the AR STILL has to be fitted in order to purchase it.Otherwise it looks EVIL! Also can’t have bayonet lug and flash supressor.


32 posted on 07/22/2012 5:28:28 AM PDT by Renegade
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To: tsowellfan
I think the democrats have finally found their issue for Election 2012. We’ll probably see less Bain and income tax attacks now. They will still talk about Bain/Romney’s Taxes but they are now (smiling inside) that “the Joker” handed them their issue and something to stand for.

Isn't it amazing how the timing of this and similar gun abuse tragedies often seem to take place at convenient times and work to the benefit of democrats?

Could this be another "False Flag" operation rather than just a lone crazed gunman episode?

You can bet that the major media won't do any serious investigation.
They are already fully vested in using the tragedy as a springboard to push their anti-gun, anti-conservative agendas.


33 posted on 07/22/2012 5:42:03 AM PDT by Iron Munro ("Jiggle the Handle for Barry!")
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To: BenLurkin

The perfect arsenal to attack, to effect more gun control.One from column A,one from column B and upon entering the Presidency,i remember Obama,wanting to re-classify pump action shotguns as assault rifles. What a coincidence. All the major weapons groups they want banned are involved,While the Glaring lack of a revolver,would allow a politician,to feign Second Ammendment support,by saying you can keep your revolvers ( Knowing Americans need to have a Handgun ) and your over and under and side by side shotguns. If Obama signs an Executive Order,banning just the classifications of Firearms involved in this massacre,while exempting revolvers and over and under and side by side shot guns,you’ll know Obama’s thugs were involved as a pre-text to get Firearms banned.


34 posted on 07/22/2012 5:55:38 AM PDT by mark1973
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To: MonicaG

keyboard spew alert


35 posted on 07/22/2012 6:04:36 AM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: gortklattu
What percentage of the legally owned guns in our nation are killing innocent people?

0%

Guns don't kill people.

36 posted on 07/22/2012 6:12:30 AM PDT by 2111USMC (Aim Small, Miss Small)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

I live in the people’s republic of Mass. The ‘94 AWB is still in force here. 10 round magazines. Unless you are willing to pay for pre-ban 30 round mags if your style of rifle is pre-ban. I live near the smith and Wesson factory, and there are models built there that are available in CT, but they have to go through a year long approval process to become available here.

It really sucks.


37 posted on 07/22/2012 6:17:26 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (I just hate our government. All of them. Republican and Democrat.)
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To: matt04
Anybody know how this creep walked into the theater carrying all his hardware and body armor? He must have had an automobile sized gym bag; that alone is off the scale weird in a midnight movie screening. Personally, if I saw somebody bringing that into a theater, I'd be thinking ‘batman goofball whose going to jump out as batman and run around the theater’ or ‘psycho nutbar with who know what in that bag’. Either way, I'd get a seat real close to the door.
38 posted on 07/22/2012 6:34:01 AM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (I'm for Churchill in 1940!)
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To: matt04

“...but until eight years ago Holmes would not have been able to buy the AR-15 semi-automatic assault rifle...”

Welllllll...not quite.

AR-15’s already in the US were still available. The only thing AWB actually did was push up the retail prices of a specific class of firearms, and push some cosmetic changes.

The confusion is understandable, sadly, because the UK is already effectively disarmed and has been for some time.


39 posted on 07/22/2012 6:41:22 AM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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To: matt04
I have to believe that the gun grabbers don't really feeeeeeeeeeeeeel that if there were "gun laws" this killer (and criminals in general) would have realized at the last second, "Damn! I gotta send all these back.. it's illegal for me to have them."

.. there's something else at work and its origin stems from radical leftist stinking, especially the 1960s Marxist-Alinsky campus radicals and their ideological issue.. all psycho spoiled brats actually.

40 posted on 07/22/2012 7:02:14 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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