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An Electric Car That Actually Goes Far?
ScienceNOW ^ | 19 July 2012 | Robert F. Service

Posted on 07/24/2012 2:48:37 AM PDT by neverdem

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1 posted on 07/24/2012 2:48:44 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: ShadowAce

Ping


2 posted on 07/24/2012 2:50:15 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

Fugly little thing.


3 posted on 07/24/2012 3:01:46 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimenticare Iddio!!!!!)
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To: neverdem

So, who wants to be spam in a can ?


4 posted on 07/24/2012 3:14:56 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: Emperor Palpatine

Makes a Yugo look like a Buick Roadmaster.


5 posted on 07/24/2012 3:15:52 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: neverdem

Yes, fine; when you’ve got your elecric car technology all squared away - say, fifty years from now - give me a call.


6 posted on 07/24/2012 3:17:26 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: neverdem

Well, at least it makes the Leaf look good.

Gee, only $21.6K (after the tax rebate). You want fast charge? Add another $2.8K.

62 miles range, 0-60 in 15 seconds.


7 posted on 07/24/2012 3:58:12 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: neverdem
CleanCar
8 posted on 07/24/2012 4:04:08 AM PDT by preacher (Communism has only killed 100 million people: Let's give it another chance!)
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To: neverdem

Still a way to go in development. Even a 5% loss in a hundred cycles is not insignificant for a device like a car.


9 posted on 07/24/2012 4:04:52 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: neverdem

Who cares? Give it up.


10 posted on 07/24/2012 4:25:42 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth again.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Check the battery.


11 posted on 07/24/2012 4:41:45 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: Emperor Palpatine; fieldmarshaldj; Jack Hammer; Fresh Wind; Truth29; equaviator; All

Why don’t you check the keywords? My interest is in the battery. Chemistry was my undergraduate major.


12 posted on 07/24/2012 4:50:04 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: Truth29
Still a way to go in development. Even a 5% loss in a hundred cycles is not insignificant for a device like a car.

EXCEPT that the batteries have ten times the energy storage of existing technology according to the article.

SO if current battery technology has a 60-mile-range - a 10X improvement implies about a 600 mile range. AND 100 cycles then would cover 60,000 miles. Well, that is not too shabby.

SO if the car when new has a 600-mile range, and after 100 cycles (lets say 50,000 miles) has a 540-mile range (10% less), that still works. Just fine, in fact.

The other main issue is how long to recharge. For a daily driver in town obviously this isn't an issue as you can recharge overnight, and this sort of range is plenty for several days driving.

OTOH, on a long road trip I rarely choose to or WANT to drive more than 4-5 hours at a stretch, and thus 300-350 miles between stops, even if the car is still more than 3/8's full. If I can recharge in 30 minutes or so, then road trips are still OK. MAYBE I might go an hour and accept the penalty, and have lunch or whatever while waiting. But longer than that and I am not sure it works cross-country.

BUT for example - to drive to my father's place in the next state over is 255 miles and 4 hrs. If an electric car has that sort of range, let alone 600 miles or so - this is a big big deal.

Make the electricity with natural-gas fueled generating plants, and things are a LOT different in a good way on lots of levels.

13 posted on 07/24/2012 5:01:32 AM PDT by muffaletaman (IMNSHO - I MIGHT be wrong, but I doubt it.)
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To: Truth29
A hundred charges is nothing compared to a gas car. on a cross country drive one would fill the tank 3 or 4 times a day.

Lets say just around the house driving one fills up once a week that's a 2 year life for the E car. Their are lots of gas cars will over 10 years old.

Give me a E car that gets 400 miles per charge 10 min recharge and thousands of them.

Then one might considered one

14 posted on 07/24/2012 5:01:50 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: neverdem

So... what are you saying, exactly?

Because your interest is in the battery, no one is allowed to comment on anything else???


15 posted on 07/24/2012 5:04:27 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Truth29

Did they say how much it was to replace the battery? For a regular commute that is almost a 15% degradation for a year. And that is assuming the commute is less than 30 miles each way.

Go back to the drawing board kiddies.


16 posted on 07/24/2012 5:05:36 AM PDT by mazda77 ("Defeating the Totalitarian Lie" By: Hilmar von Campe. Everybody should read it.)
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To: neverdem

Where do you plug in when you are in need of a charge? Does it come with a long cord that will discretely hang from the second floor window of the Holiday Inn?


17 posted on 07/24/2012 5:18:48 AM PDT by bobzeetwin
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To: neverdem

Why not just have natural gas cars instead of burning the natural gas (or coal etc) to make the electricity to charge the car?


18 posted on 07/24/2012 5:38:49 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: neverdem

Tesla claims a range of up to 300 miles on their new Model S. It looks like a normal car, at least.

http://www.teslamotors.com/models


19 posted on 07/24/2012 6:15:35 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: neverdem

100 charges and discharges? Ok......so there’s the first three months of use. How about the next five years?


20 posted on 07/24/2012 6:46:19 AM PDT by wbill
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