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Indiana Law: Citizens Now Allowed to Shoot Law Enforcement During Unlawful Entry
The Intell Hub ^ | July 10, 2012 | Shepard Ambellas

Posted on 08/06/2012 9:26:31 AM PDT by QT3.14

A new law in Indiana authorizes the general public to use deadly force against public servants (including law enforcement officers) who unlawfully enter private property.

The measure, approved by Gov. Mitch Daniels in March, (who himself is a Bilderberg member, making the situation even more interesting) is a real game changer as the script has been flipped on the police when it comes to deadly force.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: burglary; criminaltrespass; in2012; indiana; lawenforcement; leo; noknock; police; propertyrights; trespass; unlawfulentry; warrant
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To: QT3.14

No-knock warrants = armed home invasions


41 posted on 08/06/2012 11:16:38 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Phlyer
Since you can't tell if it's "good" guys or bad guys by what
they say or what they wear - certainly not in the heat of
the moment - then your only choices are to be a sheep and
therefore responsible for the death of your family if it
*is* a criminal home invasion, or to resist with sufficient
force to protect your family.

Funny you say that. The other day I was watching a YouTube of two guys
on a homeowner's security cam at his front door wearing ski masks with
'FBI' jackets trying to jimmy, then try to kick in his door. When that failed
they started tearing off a screen off a window next to the door.

Home owner fired a few shots and you can see the two running off like hell!!

42 posted on 08/06/2012 11:21:29 AM PDT by QT3.14 (Loyalty to the country always. Loyalty to the government when it deserves it. - Mark Twain)
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To: y'all

Botched Paramilitary Police Raids:

An Epidemic of “Isolated Incidents”

“If a widespread pattern of [knock-and-announce] violations were shown . . . there would be reason for grave concern.”

—Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy, in Hudson v. Michigan, June 15, 2006.

An interactive map of botched SWAT and paramilitary police raids, released in conjunction with the Cato policy paper “Overkill: The Rise of Paramilitary Police Raids,” by Radley Balko.

http://www.cato.org/raidmap/


43 posted on 08/06/2012 11:26:32 AM PDT by deks ("...the battle of our time is the battle of liberty against the overreach of the federal government")
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To: DuncanWaring
That's not so hard now, is it?

You forgot #6. Bad guy sees cops at door and flushes contraband and down toilet while police wait outside.

44 posted on 08/06/2012 11:30:58 AM PDT by dznutz
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To: Nervous Tick

“Just out of curiosity: are you a cop or ex-cop?”

Why? You a con? Ex-con? WTF does that have to do with anything? The numbers are the numbers. You get a handful of these things a year out of MILLIONS of civilian interactions and all cops are JBT’s. Stupid. Just plain stupid. We’re done.


45 posted on 08/06/2012 11:37:07 AM PDT by jessduntno ("Racism is not dead...it is on life support - kept alive by politicians..." - Thomas Sowell)
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To: DuncanWaring

I’m talking about a no-knock warrant. You’re in bed and you hear the cops kick your door in. They’ve got the wrong address. They entered illegally.


46 posted on 08/06/2012 11:40:07 AM PDT by Terry Mross (To my kin & former friends: Don't contact me if you still love obama- We got nothing to talk about)
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To: dznutz
You forgot #6. Bad guy sees cops at door and flushes contraband and down toilet while police wait outside.

And nobody gets shot.

47 posted on 08/06/2012 11:43:22 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Terry Mross
Right address? Wrong address? I don't see how that matters.

No-knock warrants = armed home invasions

I'm trying to imagine which of our Founding Fathers would have gone along with that.

48 posted on 08/06/2012 11:46:20 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Terry Mross

If I’m in bed and someone kicks the door in, the starting assumption has to be that that’s an illegal entry and can be legitimately met with deadly force.


49 posted on 08/06/2012 11:46:44 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: jessduntno

>> We’re done.

OK. That is the most common reaction of someone unable or unwilling to defend their position, so don’t feel *too* bad. You’re not alone. Not very skilled at persuasion, but definitely not alone.

BTW, I’m skeptical you’re the businessman you hold yourself out to be.

Businesspeople can reason and work with numbers.


50 posted on 08/06/2012 11:47:43 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Love the cult, respect the leader, but I simply can't drink the koolaid and die.)
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To: DuncanWaring; dznutz

You forgot #6. Bad guy sees cops at door and flushes contraband and down toilet while police wait outside.

“And nobody gets shot.”

Dealer stays in business instead of jailed. H goes back out on street - high school kid dead from overdose. Somebody dies after all.


51 posted on 08/06/2012 11:52:36 AM PDT by jessduntno ("Racism is not dead...it is on life support - kept alive by politicians..." - Thomas Sowell)
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To: jessduntno

Did you miss the part that said “unlawfully enter private property?”

Would your response be to grovel on the floor and thank them for unlawfully entering your private property?

Perhaps you would find someplace like Cuba or North Korea more in tune to your liking.


52 posted on 08/06/2012 11:53:50 AM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (If there is a war on women, the Kennedys are the Spec Ops troops.)
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To: jessduntno; DuncanWaring; dznutz
“And nobody gets shot.”

Dealer stays in business instead of jailed. H goes back out on street - high school kid dead from overdose. Somebody dies after all.

A "maybe" juxtaposed with a "certainty" based entirely on the premise that the cops are too stupid to make a case against the dope dealer any other way than by executing an armed home invasion.

53 posted on 08/06/2012 11:56:44 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

Did you miss the part that said “unlawfully enter private property?”

Did you miss the part where I conjecture that this will cause a lot of DB’s while some armchair lawyer insists he’s right and out of the million or so Leo’s in the country, not all are Jack booted thugs?


54 posted on 08/06/2012 11:57:09 AM PDT by jessduntno ("Racism is not dead...it is on life support - kept alive by politicians..." - Thomas Sowell)
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To: jessduntno

Drop the strawman.

Alcohol is a legal substance.

Surely you’ve heard of people (college students, usually) dying of alcohol poisoning/overdose.

But people haven’t died because they sell alcohol since the repeal of Prohibition.


55 posted on 08/06/2012 11:58:38 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: jessduntno

It used to be said “”better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer”. Now it is said that “Officer Safety must be priority number one”. LEO’s have lost their way and their true purpose.


56 posted on 08/06/2012 12:27:36 PM PDT by Ratman83
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To: TigersEye

“A “maybe” juxtaposed with a “certainty” based entirely on the premise that the cops are too stupid to make a case against the dope dealer any other way than by executing an armed home invasion.”

All that flies in the face of “maybe they are in the wrong house?”

Maybe a lot of things. Maybe a lot more DB’s out there.


57 posted on 08/06/2012 12:42:31 PM PDT by jessduntno ("Racism is not dead...it is on life support - kept alive by politicians..." - Thomas Sowell)
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To: jessduntno
I answered "maybe" already. Doesn't make a rat's rear end to me.

You're done! lol

58 posted on 08/06/2012 12:47:40 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: jessduntno; Nervous Tick
"You get a handful of these things a year out of MILLIONS of civilian interactions and all cops are JBT's."

Apples and oranges.

The topic is 'unannounced dynamic entries', or whatever term you wish to use. These (hopefully) constitute a tiny percentage of the 'MILLIONS of civilian interactions' you quote.

And there are certainly more than 'a handful of these things a year'.

Thus, the silly percentage you posited is bigtime bogus.

You're done.

59 posted on 08/06/2012 1:05:16 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

“Would your response be to grovel on the floor and thank them for unlawfully entering your private property? Perhaps you would find someplace like Cuba or North Korea more in tune to your liking.”

Why, because they think a lawful shooting based on what might be a clerical error would be applauded by morons? Got that here already, it seems.

Sorry - I don’t think that an unlawful entry in error couldn’t be sorted out by other means than a gun, cowboy, but it could. All this anti-LEO shoot first don’t worry about the consequences sounds like pure BS to me. Does that disappoint you? And no, there wouldn’t be any “groveling” if someone came into my house without reason or unless there was an error. I promise.


60 posted on 08/06/2012 1:08:28 PM PDT by jessduntno ("Racism is not dead...it is on life support - kept alive by politicians..." - Thomas Sowell)
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