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Ryan is a good man, but does not redeem the abortionist/homosexualist statist Romney
Aug 11, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 08/11/2012 4:42:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.

But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.

And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.

And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.

That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.

Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.


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To: nicmarlo

Again, how do know that dozens have left FR in the past few days? Is it more a hunch of yours than fact?


2,841 posted on 08/13/2012 5:46:01 PM PDT by Third Person (A man's got to know his limitations.)
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To: CWSNTEXAS

Thank you, sir. Except for the humor about my deceased mother. Thank you for accepting my apology and I shall remember that, in the future, when I post on FR, The Jewish Pope is not taking me seriously.


2,842 posted on 08/13/2012 5:46:40 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: nicmarlo

I love that story. You miss a huge segment of it. There WAS someone there who was without sin — Jesus. Jesus was put to death for claiming equality with God, even his enemies acknowledged it at the time. Mormons deny this simple, central fact of history, and there is other history they like to throw under the bus to accommodate their own cult.

So if you like seeing Him as the guy writing in the dirt, keep in mind that He created the dirt and those whom you’re trying to educate deny that. Do you yourself acknowledge that Jesus is God - Jehovah?


2,843 posted on 08/13/2012 5:48:08 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Kevmo

The site doesn’t bother me at all Kevmo. Its the bigotry and intolerance that I cannot handle and it is not often found as much as it has been on this thread.

And I am certain Mr. Robinson has said repeatedly the reasons he does not support Mr. Romney. They are politically based and not Mormon-centered.

The young man I address the “diatribe” too, was nearing his frustration point. He didn’t need to fight any longer.

Getting frustrated at my age might be exciting. Who knows? My wife my find it exciting!


2,844 posted on 08/13/2012 5:48:25 PM PDT by CWSNTEXAS (The Jewish Pope)
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To: CWSNTEXAS; ansel12
while I have absolutely no need to defend myself against a recalcitrant, name thrower

Who called who a, "young punk"?

2,845 posted on 08/13/2012 5:48:51 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (If you fear Obama, you'll vote for Romney. If you fear God, you won't.)
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To: Graybeard58
If you've seen "dozens leave in just the past few days", "no opus, no declarations", how can you know they are gone?

That's just none of your business. But, they have left, and apparently, without your permission.

I am not compelled to document to you anything I have seen, heard, or witnessed. And because I'm not, I won't. Christ said let your 'yea' be 'yea' and your 'no' be 'no.' I don't have to take oaths to you or anyone else. You have exposed yourself as my an enemy and not someone to whom I would confide any names, numbers, or places where you may find those names, numbers, or places.

I certainly can document more than dozens, but certainly won't to you.

2,846 posted on 08/13/2012 5:49:37 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: CWSNTEXAS
Very dramatic again, I could practically hear you sighing, but it doesn't change your purpose on this thread, which is a common practice of anti-Christians, anti-social conservatives, and atheists, that is to become tigers for Mormonism.

The non-Mormon, anti-Christian types will spend days on a thread, trolling against Christians.

2,847 posted on 08/13/2012 5:51:25 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: Kevmo

Of course I do.

And by doing so, I acknowledge, I am not God.

And only God knows the heart of man.

He alone is JUDGE.


2,848 posted on 08/13/2012 5:52:17 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Graybeard58

Graybeard and I can only assume you are not Gandalf-

I have said NOTHING to you, nor will I. I find you repulsive.


2,849 posted on 08/13/2012 5:53:43 PM PDT by CWSNTEXAS (The Jewish Pope)
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To: CWSNTEXAS
The site doesn’t bother me at all Kevmo. Its the bigotry and intolerance that I cannot handle and it is not often found as much as it has been on this thread.

Is this "bigotry"?

if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.

2,850 posted on 08/13/2012 5:55:27 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (If you fear Obama, you'll vote for Romney. If you fear God, you won't.)
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To: sf4dubya

McCain was at least pro-life. I’ll never vote for that gun grabbing, abortionist/homosexualist socialist POS Romney and you can take that to the bank!!


2,851 posted on 08/13/2012 5:57:36 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Resettozero

LOL. You have a wit about you I almost like!

Best of luck to you “youngster”. Quit taking your opinions so seriously and go have a little fun.

Though a hair misguided, you may grow up to be quite a man! I think there’s hope for you!


2,852 posted on 08/13/2012 5:57:52 PM PDT by CWSNTEXAS (The Jewish Pope)
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To: sf4dubya; Jim Robinson

JimRob:
Those who can put aside their conservative principles momentarily to vote for the lesser evil should go ahead and do so.
Kevmo:
That does not sound healthy. I believe it’s the first time I’ve heard you say it.

sf4dubya:
Jim has done pretty muchthat every single election. ***Provide links, please.
SF4dubya:
This post...

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Well, that was instructive. That may have been the only time JimRob ever suggested to FReepers to put aside their conservative principles, and he certainly learned that lesson — he’s not suggesting it again. Your post said that he does that “pretty much every single election”, and your one link does not come close to proving that assertion.


2,853 posted on 08/13/2012 5:58:38 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: sf4dubya; Politicalmom
"Lighten up.

Pulling stuff out of context when people are trying to old school lighten the mood before the damnations and beatings begin is not equivalent to hatred."

LOL, "out of context"? Really? Barry, is that you?

See, if sf4dubya decides a religion is worthy of mocking, it isn't bigotry. He's only denigrating a bunch of hillbillies, after all, and that's acceptable. /s

2,854 posted on 08/13/2012 5:58:56 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: nicmarlo

Then what is your problem with those who defend the truth of christianity over those who would distort it for nefarious cultish purposes?


2,855 posted on 08/13/2012 6:00:38 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Graybeard58

Can you not read?

I find you, Colorfornicator and that Elsie person despicable and trying to trick me by commenting on Mr. Robinson’s words will not work.

I’m old. Not senile. Ass.


2,856 posted on 08/13/2012 6:01:17 PM PDT by CWSNTEXAS (The Jewish Pope)
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To: nicmarlo

Those Christians who witness to the Mormons here, have helped Mormon freepers escape the cult, right here at FR, many are themselves ex-Mormons.

Some of the freepers you call Mormon haters and bashers, are Mormons who became ex-Mormons, that became enlightened here at freerepublic during these discussions and are now among the best Christian posters on Mormonism here.

Do you regret them being saved?


2,857 posted on 08/13/2012 6:03:30 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: nicmarlo
That's just none of your business. But, they have left, and apparently, without your permission.

Let's get up to date on this matter. I asked another poster to document that people have left, you joined in by saying that "dozens have left in the past few days". None of my business? Of course it's my business when you are talking nonsense and I will point it out. You said it - "people have left..By the dozens" prove it in some way. You cannot so you resort to mindless pap like this:

I am not compelled to document to you anything I have seen, heard, or witnessed. And because I'm not, I won't. Christ said let your 'yea' be 'yea' and your 'no' be 'no.' I don't have to take oaths to you or anyone else. You have exposed yourself as my an enemy and not someone to whom I would confide any names, numbers, or places where you may find those names, numbers, or places.

I certainly can document more than dozens, but certainly won't to you.

Completely childish except the paraphrasing of Jesus, which has no contextual meaning for this discussion.

You will not show me and others where dozens have left in the past few days because you simply cannot. Your mouth has done over run your ass.

2,858 posted on 08/13/2012 6:03:48 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (If you fear Obama, you'll vote for Romney. If you fear God, you won't.)
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To: CWSNTEXAS

You are losing the argument. You name call, pontificate, and avoid the subject at hand.

Please, be clear and tell us why those whom you call bigots are, in fact, bigots.

If you disagree with the precepts of Mormonism does that make you a bigot?

If a Mormon is a liberal, and you disagree with their politics, are you a bigot?


2,859 posted on 08/13/2012 6:05:28 PM PDT by Third Person (A man's got to know his limitations.)
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To: Kevmo
those who defend the truth of christianity

Because, what I see, is not Christ-like. I see hammers, sickles, knives, and saws. I don't see Christ, I see people who were like the pharisees, dragging that woman through town, full of self-righteousness, because they finally 'caught her in the very act.'

Yet GOD showed love and compassion. Christ probably wrote each pharisee's name, one by one, in the dirt...and next to it, a woman each was guilty of committing a sin with in their youth. And one by one, each pharisee shut up and walked away.

It was Christ who had the right, the moral absolute right, to condemn that woman. But He did not. He loved her, and talked to her, and forgave her. He won her over, I have no doubt, to eternal life through His showing love and act with love.

2,860 posted on 08/13/2012 6:05:53 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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