Posted on 08/14/2012 2:21:29 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
Forget about whether he should be elected vice president. Should Rep. Paul D. Ryan be excommunicated?
I have been perusing blogs and comments thereon that suggest the prospective Republican veep candidate is not only a bad man but also a bad Catholic. It’s the latest installment of a tiresome debate between liberal and conservative Catholics about which faction’s favored politicians are truer to the teachings of Mother Church.
As columnist Michael Sean Winters points out, Ryan’s claim that his political philosophy is conversant with Roman Catholic social teaching is hard to swallow.
(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...
Nope no fortune tellers in the Church, just the Body of Christ, the Communion of Saints and Christ as our head.
Your interpretation of Holy Scripture and the Communion of Saints is your own and you are of course welcome to it on your own authority.
Precisely.
Good post.
The article blows it here: “Problem is, Winters writes, Ryan is not advocating innovative anti-poverty programs at the local level.”
To them, local level means government yet again.
Well, God only asks for 10% Himself. I am sure He expects a government to get by on no more then that.
You wrote:
“Does the catholic church say it’s okay for catholic’s to seek fortune tellers, or those whom “speak to the dead”?”
No, it is forbidden by Sacred Scripture and the Catechism of the Catholic Church:
2116 All forms of divination are to be rejected: recourse to Satan or demons, conjuring up the dead or other practices falsely supposed to “unveil” the future. Consulting horoscopes, astrology, palm reading, interpretation of omens and lots, the phenomena of clairvoyance, and recourse to mediums all conceal a desire for power over time, history, and, in the last analysis, other human beings, as well as a wish to conciliate hidden powers. They contradict the honor, respect, and loving fear that we owe to God alone.
Ryan is a good Catholic on the “social issues”, such as abortion. Ryan believes that murdering the unborn is evil, should not be funded by the government, and that it should be restricted and regulated. Ryan also believes in the Church position of the “economic issues”, where he supports private charity - a much more Christian position than compulsory “charity”, where the government collects our donations under the threat of force. That combination makes Ryan a good Catholic, a good Christian, and a good conservative. What could be better?
Thanks, but I don’t do links. I just opened my Bible to find what I needed, helps me to learn it more.
The only time I use a Bible link is to see if all of the Bibles out there state basically the same thing.
>> And tomorrow’s LAT: “Is Obama a bad Christian?”
His Muslim faith, no?
How about a good Mormon who had the same core beliefs as Ryan?
Excommunication should happen to Pelosi and Sibelius and Biden - and 'ol Teddy should be exhumed, ex post facto excommunicated and expelled downrange from a cannon. But not the good ones like Paul Ryan.
Must make it really tough using FreeRepublic - not to mention the rest of the interweb.
I just opened my Bible to find what I needed, helps me to learn it more.
Echo chambers are quite comforting.
Again, you're welcome to your own interpretation on your own authority, but don't expect others to acknowledge it.
That’s fine. I just posted scripts.
I was just relating my experience with a gal who claimed to be a good catholic (she did all the things the catholic church told her to, she almost became a nun)......but yet seeked a psychic, and tried to get me to join.
And what about those little “statues” of father this and father that (I forget his name, but he is supposedly the founder of lost things).
Perhaps I am judging the catholic religion based on those who truly believe they are “good catholics”.
But I don’t bow, worship or anything else to ANYONE but the Lord. The only way to the Father is through His Son.
I take that literally.
Mr. Winters should read some of the writings of Pope Benedict XVI, whose ideas on abortion, traditional one man-one woman marriage, assistance for the poor, and the teaching of subsidiarity, are the same as those of Congressman Ryan. Then Mr. Winters can try to claim that Congressman Ryan's ideas don't follow the teachings of the Church.
Somewhere along the way, some outside the Church lost the meaning of the Communion of Saints as taught by the Apostles and in the Creeds. It is their great loss.
This along with the meaning of pray and intercessory prayer often leads to the errors you and others make concerning Catholic belief and praxis.
Study these if you wish to know the truth on this topic. If not, don’t.
Hey Ryan, welcome to Palin’s world.
Whatcha got in your trash?
Have you ever had a dirty thought? Were you alone when you had that thought? Were their any boys living within 5 miles of you when you had that thought?
Why do you want to see Black people in chains?
Okay, I won’t.
"Understanding this first, that no prophecy of scripture is made by private interpretation. For prophecy came not by the will of man at any time: but the holy men of God spoke, inspired by the Holy Ghost." 2 Peter 1:20-21
"And account the longsuffering of our Lord, salvation; as also our most dear brother Paul, according to the wisdom given him, hath written to you: As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are certain things hard to be understood, which the unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, to their own destruction." 2 Peter 3:15-16
“This is exactly what I mean. Does the catholic church say it’s okay for catholic’s to seek fortune tellers, or those whom “speak to the dead”?”
No, not at all.
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