Posted on 08/23/2012 7:36:48 AM PDT by Beaten Valve
Rocker DEE SNIDER has lashed out at U.S. vice presidential hopeful PAUL RYAN for allegedly using his popular tune WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE IT during a campaign stop in Pennsylvania. Ryan, who is currently touring America to support Mitt Romney's bid for the White House, reportedly tried to boost morale during a political rally on Tuesday (21Aug12) by blaring the classic Twisted Sister hit to pump up the crowd. However, Snider has taken issue with the politician's use of the song and has lodged a formal complaint with Ryan's camp. A statement from the 57 year old reads, "I emphatically denounce Paul Ryan's use of my band Twisted Sister's song 'We're Not Gonna Take It' in any capacity. There is almost nothing he stands for that I agree with except the use of the (home exercise regime) P90X." This is not the first time a Republican Party candidate has been reprimanded for their choice of music - earlier this month (Aug12) rockers Silversun Pickups fired off a cease-and-desist letter ordering Romey to stop playing their track Panic Switch.
You get your music; the cover band gets work and exposure and idiots like Snider get pissed off.
Win-win-win.
“For as much as you hear old rock and roll tunes in commercials, movies, TV shows, etc. nowadays, clearly they are happy to give such permission for use of their music most of the time.”
Actually, these stories are pretty misleading because the simple fact is, most artists don’t have to give you permission to use their music, and conversely, they can’t stop anyone from using their music, so long as the proper licensing fees/royalties are paid. The rights to 99% of all modern popular music of any style is held, not by the artists, but by the publishing companies, like ASCAP or BMI.
The artists sign over any controlling interest on how their music can be used when they make agreements with those companies, and those companies let just about anyone use whatever music they want, so long as they pay the piper.
“Has Been Rocker” whinning.
Hell hath no fury like a one hit wonder who’s only moderately successfull song is sampled by a Republican.
Artists and musicians especially just generally tend to be lefties. If they only used artists who were not pants wetting lefties, they’d be mostly limited to Country and Classical music. Since they are choosing music to appeal to a broad demographic, either for votes, or for listeners, that just doesn’t make sense commercially.
I like TS, especially when they got away from the record company and could stop imitating the LA sound, but in the end neither of our opinions matter for what I was saying. The point is that anybody that’s in a creative or performing art (music, acting, writing, painting, etc) generally is a liberal. That’s how it works, that’s how it always works. The folks in the liberal arts that aren’t actually liberals are very rare.
At least the rest of us know not to buy anything or play anything from Twisted Sister again.
Again? They were just noise on the radio between good songs in the day.
Because they are all liberal degenerates and are afraid of what their fellow travelers might say. This their way of soldiering.
All these songs are crap, Dee Snider is crap, Crissie Hynde is crap, Fleetwood Mac is crap, it's virtually all crap.
We're Not Gonna Take It is juvenile crap about teenage rebellion. Ohio was anti Reagan liberal hand wringing. Don't Stop Thinking About Tomorrow is insipid and wightless, and also confused crap as poetry.
Why not think about times to come
And not about the things that you've done
If your life was bad to you
Just think what tomorrow will do
Perfect for the Democrat party. No history, no responsibility, all about feelin fine, it's all good bro.
We fall into this ridiculous trap every election cycle. Some communist musician is offended by republicans playing their stupid song. Why don't we use songs that plainly uphold some theme that is consistent with OUR values, instead of trying to stretch some pathetic popular song to fit? It's lame and counter productive.
yes...public use of songs requires a royalty fee paid to one of several collection companies for artists royalties of which most are based about 35 miles north of where I am typing on Music Row in Nashville
BMI and ASCAP are the two biggest i think
any use of published music larger than a wedding probably is liable to pay for times played and maybe audience estimation..not sure
in Rush's case it's huge
in the case of TV commercials, ,movies and TV where music is used there is more than just royalty paid...there is a negotiated fee
like Scorsese scored flicks with all that great music...he negotitates the price...the bigger the artists the higher...which is why low budget films use cheesy canned music
Country guys or Bob Seger doing pickups and tractor TV ads...same thing ..a negotiated fee
someone here in the biz knows better than I but knowing a few artists in my time around here that is a nutshell of how they explained it to me
those who wrote the song or own the rights will also get a cut unless they sold that right
Forget it. They are far beyond ever listening to one of us once they reach this level. The only way to ever dream of them giving you even a moment of attention is with a big check in your hand. In contrast, they pay huge sums to advisers who come up with some really lame ideas and frequently miss the points we all banter about every day.
As I posted earlier, I read a post from someone that basically said that if a music guy like Dee Snider or a movie guy or gal injects himself/herself into the public debate, then his/her music becomes public property, and copyright should no longer apply.
Dee Snider wants to be relevant again after his cameo in Pee-Wee’s Big Adventure and Celebrity Apprentice.
Let it go Dee.
Cool...
Did they really need to put that in there?
Now, correct me if I’m worng., but don’t the publishers own the rights to the songs like Paul McCartney found out.
It does seem to be a screwed up system because I bet U2 owns all their material except for maybe Boy and War but even so, they might have bought them back.
Now, I could see the copywrite for their performances, that’s different. However, don’t bars and such pay protection money to be able to play these songs so they don’t get hassled or sued and would Ryan playing this song fall under this so long as the RIAA???? or whoever is paid off, the artest can’t say a thing.
I do remember when Rush played a Pretenders song and Chrissie Hind was so upset that Rush played her song that she stood by her principals and wouldn’t let Rush use the song. Oh, my mistake, she ‘allowed’ him to use her song if he would donate $500k to Peta.
Does anyone know the particulars of the law on this??
I like Dee Snyder but I think he would want his music played anywhere, plus, I thought he was a libertarian.
Did they really need to put that in there?
Nope. Too much of a reminder of when GWB bungled the "Fool me once ..." quote.
If someone doesn’t want their song used, take it the hell out of the ABSCAM catalog or whatever it is, you publish it there saying hey, use my song but you gotta pay me a royalty.
Every damned election year we go through this, artist has a song published out in the catalog so anyone can use it if they pay, then a politician uses it they don’t like and they demand they stop.
ITS STUPID! And frankly Dee, you aren’t a dumb guy, not a genious but not a dumb guy, you really need to get off the liberal plantation.
So if Ryan paid an ASCAP or BMI royalty fee, what does the artist have to say about it, legally speaking?
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