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Outnumbered: Presidential Voters Exceeded Full-time Workers by 14 Million
Townhall.com ^ | September 19, 2012 | Terry Jeffrey

Posted on 09/19/2012 8:36:19 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 09/19/2012 8:36:25 AM PDT by Kaslin
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I don’t mind those now retired who contributed during their earlier life by working. They deserve to be able to vote.

What I object to is to any who did not pay into the system or (skin in the game).

Those should not be allowed to vote.

I also think anybody that votes for Obama after these 4 miserable years should be required to take a citizenship test and, if not passed, should have citizenship removed and deported.


2 posted on 09/19/2012 8:41:42 AM PDT by bestintxas (Somewhere in Kenya, a Village is missing its Idiot, thankfully.)
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Presidential Voters Exceeded Full-time Workers by 14 Million

IMO, once you have died, your voting rights should be stripped away.

3 posted on 09/19/2012 8:46:14 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: bestintxas

should be required to take a citizenship test and, if not passed, should have citizenship removed and deported.

or should be required to take a citizenship test and a psycoligical test for sanity then committed.


4 posted on 09/19/2012 8:46:26 AM PDT by Bitsy
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To: Kaslin
Uh, and this means what? I distinctly remember that back in slavery days we had MILLIONS of full time workers who just never did vote ~ white and black.

Was that in and of itself significant? Or were other characteristics of life in the early 1800s more meaningful?

5 posted on 09/19/2012 8:47:10 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: bestintxas

Uh, crips need not apply ~ yeah, that’s gotta’ be our motto for the future ~ bet that’ll get a lot of folks voting for us (NOT)/s


6 posted on 09/19/2012 8:48:32 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Kaslin

John McPain seemed to be the happiest loser ever. And people in AZ must have agreed: they kept him on board.


7 posted on 09/19/2012 8:49:18 AM PDT by Theodore R. ( Who among us has not erred? Akin's the One!)
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To: Kaslin

“Income taxes” is a term of art used by the IRS. It refers to a specific type of tax on income. It is not the only federal tax on income. Almost everyone who works pays payroll taxes, which are a flat 15.3% of income. There is no exemption for low earners, only for high earners. Those who earn above about 120,000 don’t have to pay any more above that level.

Payroll taxes represent 40% of all taxes collected by the federal government. These taxes are not sequestered-—they pay for all the expenses of government, just like income taxes. So it is not fair to say that people who don’t pay “income taxes” are not paying a fair share of the nation’s tax burden.


8 posted on 09/19/2012 8:49:23 AM PDT by juno67 (Gua)
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9 posted on 09/19/2012 8:55:02 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (The Click-&-Paste Media exists & works in Utopia, riding unicorns & sniffing pixy dust.)
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Thanks for the overstating the obvious.

Do any of the other forms of taxes offer an earned income credit? Deductions for dropping kids like puppies? Does any lawyer advertise on TV to offer relief from Payroll tax debt?

News flash. People who work pay all the taxes you cited and income taxes on top of that. People who don't work don't pay payroll taxes and get earned income credit for existing.

10 posted on 09/19/2012 8:57:47 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: Kaslin
The 24th Amendment was a horrible mistake. Not the part about getting rid of Poll Taxes, but the part about getting rid of all taxes as a prerequisite to voting.

The right of citizens of the United States to vote in any primary or other election for President or Vice President, for electors for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any state by reason of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax.

Representation without Taxation is as bad of a problem as Taxation without Representation. When non taxpayers interests are represented on an equal footing with taxpayers, it is the taxpayers representation which has been damaged and diluted.

11 posted on 09/19/2012 8:58:39 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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When voters figure out they can vote in politicians who will give them more free stuff, then it is beginning of end of the republic.

One needs no ID or proof of citizenship to receive Obamacare, but if you have proof you are a US citizen, the IRS will hunt you down and make sure you buy inflated health insurance to pay for the indigent and non-citizens.


12 posted on 09/19/2012 9:01:09 AM PDT by entropy12
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13 posted on 09/19/2012 9:01:43 AM PDT by timestax (Why not drug tests for the President AND all White Hut staff ? ? ?)
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To: juno67

EITC
The Earned Income Tax Credit gives back most if not all, and then some, of any FICA or payroll tax.


14 posted on 09/19/2012 9:08:33 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: juno67

IN THEORY, those “taxes” are more like forced savings - Social Security, medicaid, etc. The fact that Congress steals them and pisses them away doesn’t change that.
And a lot of those people who pay these “payroll taxes” get them back, and MORE in the “Earned Income Tax Credit.”


15 posted on 09/19/2012 9:12:49 AM PDT by Little Ray (AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: Kaslin

I wonder how many of those voters were dead at the time.


16 posted on 09/19/2012 9:13:32 AM PDT by DefeatCorruption
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To: DiogenesLamp
To piggyback on your post. There is precedent. Currently the citizens of Puerto Rico are exempt from paying federal income tax. Because of this, they are not allowed to vote in presidential elections.

So, I propose a simple plan. If you contribute more than you take back, you get to vote. If you get more from the government than what you contribute, you don't get to vote.

17 posted on 09/19/2012 9:15:37 AM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: Kaslin

I’ve said this before, and my opinion hasn’t changed.

If you get food stamps or assistance from the government in any way yopu should lose your right to vote until off it.

Period.


18 posted on 09/19/2012 9:20:46 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("On the ascent of Olympus, what's a botched bar or two?" -Artur Schnabel)
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To: EGPWS

If the election commission are honest they will take persons of the registration list that have passed away


19 posted on 09/19/2012 9:21:10 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: juno67
Almost everyone who works pays payroll taxes, which are a flat 15.3% of income. There is no exemption for low earners, only for high earners. Those who earn above about 120,000 don’t have to pay any more above that level.

Slight amendment: 12.4% of the payroll tax stops at the ceiling for FICA, which is $110,100 this year. However, the rate is actually 8.4% this year, due to the temporary reduction in FICA taxes.

The remaining 3.9% is for Medicare, which has no upper limit, at least on wage income.

Neither tax is imposed on unearned income like interest, dividends, and capital gains.

20 posted on 09/19/2012 9:26:17 AM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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