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**LIVE THREAD II** Second Presidential Debate - Mitt Romney vs Barack Obama (9:00 pm Eastern)
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Posted on 10/16/2012 6:08:59 PM PDT by I Am Not A Mod

Originally Posted on 10/16/2012 2:13:41 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat

This is a thread to split the load.

You can watch the debate online here: http://www.youtube.com/politics?feature=inp-hp-ype-26

Town Hall debate.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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To: Beatthedrum
We have seen demand increase and we have not kept up supply, you have stopped the keystone pipeline, cut way back on drilling on government lands, stopped drilling off-shore, that’s why gas prices are at $ 4 a gallon.

There's another reason, too: Ben Bernanke cranking up the printing press with QE3 to help the messiah get reelected. Oil prices are pegged to the dollar -- when it's inflated, oil prices go up to compensate.

301 posted on 10/16/2012 10:22:06 PM PDT by Schatze (It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.)
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To: trappedincanuckistan

Crowley was disgraceful, but what she did will help Romney win the post-debate spin over the next few days. She ensured that the one question people will be talking about is Libya. She exposed herself as biased by falsely “fact-checking” what Obama said in the Rose Garden. Now we’re going to spend the next few days debating what the administration did and didn’t say, and when they did and didn’t say it.


302 posted on 10/16/2012 10:22:38 PM PDT by dpat
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To: Beatthedrum

I think the left overplayed their hand. Crowley’s “fact check” ensures that Libya will be the one exchange that everyone is talking about tomorrow. We want the focus to be on the three ring circus that is O’s foreign policy. The idea that O’s position was that it was terrorism the day after is laughable. The regime’s story on what happened in Libya is unraveling day by day, and now it will be thrust fully into the spotlight.


303 posted on 10/16/2012 10:22:43 PM PDT by dpat
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3; stephenjohnbanker; NFHale; Impy
RE :”I still stand by my earlier point, polling committed Mccain voting Republicans says little about a general POTUS election this year. I think Luntz is the best we will find for accuracy.
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You may be right. I guess I am just naturally skeptical. If 3/4 of all undecided prior-Obama-voters switched to Romney, that would be extraordinary”

I saw this live tonight on FNC Hannity.

One thing to understand is that Rs got the crap kicked out of them in 2008, and 2006. Those were disasters.
So polling Republicans that stayed loyal during those two elections 2006 and 2008 is great way to make people think Rs are winning when they are really losing the election.
And now Rush claims that this is a winning strategy?

I remember Rush and Hannity in 2006 and 2008 telling us that Rs are winning, till the election. Well F that. I don;t want that and I wont go along with it.

304 posted on 10/16/2012 10:23:50 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: MikeFrancesa.com
The main reason I am pist about Romney's performance involves the F & F and “assault weapon” ban issue. I think obama made points about Romney not supporting “assault weapon ban extensions”.

Obama said something like: assault weapons needed by our armed forces should not be provided to civilians, and Romney failed to renew the ban. They are not now!

Assault weapons used by our military, and AK-47s are capable of fully automatic fire! Weapons available to civilians (those not supplied by “fast & furious”) are not fully automatic!

States do not need to ban assault weapons. The Federal Government already bans them nationwide. The idiotic state “assault weapon bans” just ban common deer rifles that have cosmetic modifications to make them look like AK47’s and M-16s. They are still semi-automatic weapons, like hundreds of other rifles available to hunters and target shooters.

305 posted on 10/16/2012 10:24:22 PM PDT by tdscpa
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To: rurgan

They were absolutely literally shocked to find out that what they believed was not correct.

I told ‘em to come here and turn off the TV.

:)


306 posted on 10/16/2012 10:25:13 PM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep. Clowns will eat me.)
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To: dpat

True.


307 posted on 10/16/2012 10:25:51 PM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: grey_whiskers

Well, we’ll see if being “respectful” and staying on the same points “the economy” wins in November. I’m not convinced there are enough intelligent people left in the country to not believe the MSM propaganda all they way into the voting booth.

Bush played nice against the imbecile Gore and nearly lost a sure thing. He refused to use the corruption and scandals that plagued the Rapist’s administration. In 2004, he nearly lost and would have if the Swift Boat Veterans had not reminded America what a POS and a poser Kerry was.

McCain played it safe and refused to vet the Fraud. He was slaughtered.

Now The Fraud and the MSM are painting Romney as an evil rich guy, who wants to give tax breaks to his rich buddies while the rest of the country suffers. The whole campaign is based an class envy.

47 % of the country pays no income tax and at least 50 % + expect the government to take care of them, take money from the rich and give it to the rest of us.

I’m not convinced after 50 + years of leftists public school indoctrination and the brainwashing of the media, that America is ready to defend free enterprise, capitalism against the threat of socialism.

The lines are clearly drawn and I think November 6 decides the future direction of the country. Do we remain a free enterprise system or do we do what they did in Britain a few decades back - move towards more government, socialism.


308 posted on 10/16/2012 10:26:19 PM PDT by Beatthedrum
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To: dpat
Anything to get the topic off of the economy. It's the economy.

What I hate that Crowly monster for is making Romney look dumb on that terrorist/movie crap. She lied and the media brainwashed crowd agreed with crowly witch's lie. awful But Romney crushed Obama on the economy. If not for Candy Romney would have scored big on that islamic movie lie.

309 posted on 10/16/2012 10:27:35 PM PDT by rurgan (Sunset all laws at 4 years.China is destroying U.S. ability to manufacture,makes everything)
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To: sickoflibs; Gilbo_3; stephenjohnbanker; NFHale; Impy
If 3/4 of all undecided prior-Obama-voters switched to Romney, that would be extraordinary

all undecided prior-Obama-voters, not just 20 in a focus group.

So polling Republicans that stayed loyal during those two elections 2006 and 2008 is great way to make people think Rs are winning when they are really losing the election.

I agree.

310 posted on 10/16/2012 10:34:41 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: rurgan

It would have been nice if Romney’s people had these numbers ready...

“According to a report published by the Free Beacon in April, the 2011 annual report on White House staff revealed that the median annual salary for female White House employees was 18 percent less than male employees — $60,000 compared to $71,000.

And in 2008, Scripps Howard syndicated columnist Deroy Murdock noted that as in Obama’s U.S. Senate office, women were paid less than men: While the average male staffer brought home $54,397, female staffers averaged $45,152.”

Maybe they can get it out there tomorrow ???


311 posted on 10/16/2012 10:36:11 PM PDT by Beatthedrum
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To: rurgan

Luntz had a focus group of previous Obama voters all of whom switched to Romney. I think the jig is up for the MSM. Also, “Independents” are a sensitive bunch. They are swayable, but also skeptical. I’m not their biggest fans, they’re way too mushy for me. Yet, here’s Obama losing the very mushies that put him in power. That’s good news for us and a good night as well.

Even if Romney wins our fight won’t be over, not for a long, hard time. Let’s stay in it to win it.


312 posted on 10/16/2012 10:37:08 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: I Am Not A Mod
To put it another way, Mitt Romney kicked 0dumb0's skinny kenyan, commie, muzzzlim ass all the way to Kenya & back.

I was never a fan of Romney even up to his debate two weeks ago, but in my opinion, I believe that Romney took 0dumb0 to the woodshed tonight on more than one occasion. I loved when he ran through a complete litany of failures from 0dumb0 -- 23 million unemployed, 15 million more on foodstamps, 9 million more at poverty levels or below, 50% college grads unable to find a job in their field, etc etc. And then calling out 0dumb0 on his lie about Libya, and his lies on how much energy production has "grown". It was great!!!

I have to admit, I have never seen a Republican candidate for president like Mitt, who has taken direct aim at 0dumb0 and is throwing non-stop fastballs at 0dumb0 and 0dumb0 is wiffing on every single one of them

I like the format of tonight's debate, allowing Mitt to directly challenge the lies & flimsy arguments of 0dumb0 and the media biased moderator. I heard Brit Hume say that he doesn't like it... WTF? What, so that the debates would only allow the candidates to respond back to the moderator? I could care less what the moderator thinks. I want to see 0dumbo's ass nailed to the wall in every public back & forth debate. And Romney is not backing down at all in challenging 0dumb0's lies. 0dumb0 has NEVER, I repeat NEVER experienced any debate or discourse that directly challenges his lies, like the whoppers he told tonight!

313 posted on 10/16/2012 10:41:58 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: Salamander
I know it's as if you one day find out you've been living in a false world (as in the movie the Matrix). That shows the power the media has that they can fool so many people like that. If we had a fair , honest media we wouldn't have 99% of the problems we have ,that I guarantee. The media are pure evil. It's refreshing to at leas find people here who at least know the truth, the real reality.
314 posted on 10/16/2012 10:41:58 PM PDT by rurgan (Sunset all laws at 4 years.China is destroying U.S. ability to manufacture,makes everything)
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To: rcrngroup

good post


315 posted on 10/16/2012 10:43:20 PM PDT by rurgan (Sunset all laws at 4 years.China is destroying U.S. ability to manufacture,makes everything)
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To: Beatthedrum
I agree. I feel that the punk POTUS won (barely) aided by what constituted as a hit piece by the moderator. At the beginning she stated that her team picked the questions. Amazing that 4/5 of the questions aided Obama. /s.

However if you scored the debates like a boxing match, it would have been Romney 14-1 in Denver, and Obama 8-7 tonight. The first debate was much more decisive.

316 posted on 10/16/2012 10:44:01 PM PDT by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: rurgan
RE :”Hey I remember you Sarah Palin’s # 1 fan lol. just kidding . so how do you think Sarah would have done against the Muslim communist?”

Sarah Palin.....Momma Grizzly.... Ahhh you bring back great memories... and laughs ....here's one that comes to mind that sent many into or.. asms.

Thanks :)

317 posted on 10/16/2012 10:44:25 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: sickoflibs

Sarah Palin does look hot to me though lol


318 posted on 10/16/2012 10:47:00 PM PDT by rurgan (Sunset all laws at 4 years.China is destroying U.S. ability to manufacture,makes everything)
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To: catfish1957

Yes, it was closer than I originally thought and the Fraud did come up a bit ahead. But in the light of the clear bias of the cow moderator, the lie about the Libya attack, maybe Romney didn’t get hurt that badly.

Some good news on the night, the Yankees were beat and are down three games to zero.


319 posted on 10/16/2012 10:49:33 PM PDT by Beatthedrum
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To: rurgan
RE :”Sarah Palin does look hot to me though lol”

I agree 100%. She sure can fill out a fitness sweater.


320 posted on 10/16/2012 10:51:12 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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