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Media Shocked by Voter Reaction to Debate ^ | 10/23/12 | Rush Limgaugh

Posted on 10/23/2012 12:13:47 PM PDT by Evil Slayer


RUSH: To the audio sound bites! This morning on CBS This Morning, I have a portion here of National Correspondent Dean Reynolds' report on a panel of undecided Ohio voters who watched last night's debate and what they got from it.

Now, you can't see it, obviously. This is radio. But Norah O'Donnell's face in this sound bite is priceless. These people cannot believe what they are hearing. What we have here is an undecided Ohio voter on this panel, Norah O'Donnell and the cohost Charlie Rose. And they start off here with Dean Reynolds, who is a CBS correspondent in Ohio.

REYNOLDS: When it was all over, they were asked who won. The president got two votes. Governor Romney got six. All had made up their minds, at least for now.

Was this the deciding factor?

MAN: I mean, something can change tomorrow that --

UNDECIDEDS: (giggling)

REYNOLDS: After all, they still have two weeks to really truly decide. Dean Reynolds, Steubenville, Ohio.

O'DONNELL: Well, look there, guys. It looks like Romney won in Dean Reynolds' focus group.

ROSE: And this was from Ohio! Steubenville, Ohio! (pause) Interesting.

RUSH: They were shocked. You shoulda seen their faces. They could not believe it. And Dean Reynolds says, "Well, there's still time, still time for them to make up their minds! There's still time for them to really, truly change their minds." So six out of eight. The Luntz focus group was much the same. There were basically 27 people there, and 25 of them thought that Obama won the debate. But they're all voting for Romney.

Do you know why? Because foreign policy doesn't matter to 'em. They all agreed with Romney's point that foreign policy's wonderful but it's worthless without a strong America at home. A strong American economy is what enables foreign policy and a great defense posture. We don't have a strong economy at home, and all those people in the Luntz group in Ft. Lauderdale on debate points, it was Obama hands down.

It was Obama won, but it didn't matter.

It didn't.

That's why I say the substance of this debate, which is foreign policy, was the least important of all three of these debates. There was a CNN focus group after the debate. The CNN focus group was identical. Well, it was close to identical to the Luntz group. The one thing noteworthy about the CNN focus group was that they were unhappy when Romney pivoted back to foreign policy from a discussion of the economy.

They wanted to hear more on the economy. The CNN focus group also thought Romney won this thing. Not won it, but was better of the two. That's really the point. Obama won the debate but that didn't matter. Romney was far more preferable as a president to all of these focus groups. And the media? Richard Cohen here in the Washington Post is very grumpy.

"Both candidates lied. Obama might have been the more egregious of the two." USA Today, Melanie Eversley: "Horses, Bayonets and Boredom Characterize Debate," and the headline here is just the beginning of a less-than-joyous review by the media. This was not the knockout that they were hoping for. Let me tell you something: The world media was hoping for blood in the water -- Romney blood in the water -- and they didn't get it.

They are depressed today.

They can't say the Mittmentum was reversed, not legitimately.

They're not even trying to. From The Politico, Glenn Thrush. I mean, these guys are part of the Obama reelection campaign organization, and the headline of The Politico piece by Glenn Thrush here: "Mitt Romney: I Come in Peace." On page two is it printed out: "Romney was at his most effective when calmly articulating his economic case and calling out the president for failing to articulate a detailed vision for his second term."

Romney "showed an easy mastery" of foreign policy details.

That's what I figured the agenda was. You almost could say it's rope-a-dope, but what Romney did last night made me think of something. Do you remember back during one of the debates with Bush in 2000? After one of the debates with Bush or a foreign policy appearance, they had to call Condoleezza Rice out to assure everybody that George W. Bush knew where India was, that he knew what the subcontinent was. Do you remember that? I do. I was thinking about it last night.

I remember Condi Rice coming out and saying, "Of course the governor is acutely aware of the problems of the subcontinent!" The "subcontinent" is India, for all intents and purposes. It was a question about whether Bush knew his geography. Romney last night was showing everybody that he knows his stuff, that he is profoundly informed, and that he is highly intelligent. Remember all the criticisms of Bush and the Republicans that they're stupid, don't know anything.

Romney just blew all of those criticisms that still persist out of the water, I thought.

I thought that was the secret to the strategy.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Ohio
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To: GOP Golfer


21 posted on 10/23/2012 3:09:04 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: ari-freedom
Romney is not going to invent new words or botch up old ones. He’s not going to make it easy for them to discredit him as some dumb bumpkin.

Yeah, yeah, I get it -- he went to Yale.

Thanks for all the kind words for conservatives living west of the Nyacks. Give my regards to the scholars down at the Fulton Fish Market.

Too bad we couldn't all get into Johns Hopkins or Middlebury, what eh? Tennis, anyone?


22 posted on 10/23/2012 3:54:01 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Slyfox
She looks a little familiar:

Well, not so much around the eyes and cheekbones ..... but the mouth, and the jawline, hmmm, yes, I see ..... yes, yes, I see what you mean!

23 posted on 10/23/2012 3:59:32 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: RetiredArmy
Maybe it is just me, but after four years of this punk and 3 debates with Romney, I just cannot see this “I ain’t made up my mind crap.”

No, it absolutely is not just you! Call the ****ing question! I'm early-voting tomorrow, I've had enough of this.

I live in Texas, so what we need to have happen here is for Romney to carry the state by about 0.0024%, and all the overage going to the third-party Conservative candidate -- a Mitt-Minder of what's going to happen if he doesn't do the right thing on chain immigration and "amnesty" plans that will put 70/30-Democrat bloc-voting Mexicans in Texican polling booths.

It isn't the "Hispanic" thing -- Central Americans and South Americans split their votes and give Republicans and conservatives a shot. It's the damn Mexicans and their "nosotros militantes trabajadores vayamos con lo PRI, vayamos con Pedro!!" b.s. .... saw it 30 years ago, and the social scientists warn us that these guys bloc-vote habitually, generation after generation.

That's what "Landslide Lyndon" Johnson knew back in 1953 when he fought President Eisenhower on repatriation of the wartime braceros -- he wanted them in the voting booth! And as soon as he became President, he walked through the Immigration Dynamite Bill of 1965 that has been the source of a ton of social disruption ever since.

He knew that if he could get 100 Mexicans in, he could get 100,000 and then 1,000,000 and then 10,000,000, and guarantee a Democratic lock on the White House for 200 years, with Texas and California locked-up Democrat.

24 posted on 10/23/2012 4:25:00 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: DoughtyOne
If nine out of ten people in ALL the polls across the country said they supported Romney, the media would still try to spin it as "razor thin" and "too close to call".
It's simply no longer the medias job to tell the truth. It is their job to keep people coming back, day after day, hour after hour, sitting on the edge of their seats, that way, media gets to leverage advertising dollars.

26 posted on 10/23/2012 4:46:44 PM PDT by djf (Political Science: Conservatives = govern-ment. Liberals = givin-me-it.)
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To: djf

I think you’re on solid ground there.

Unfortunately, that’s their emphasis, and it’s not working.

27 posted on 10/23/2012 4:58:04 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama's myth is oozing out onto the floor... she's redlining captain, I can't hold her together!)
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To: lentulusgracchus

You nailed it!

28 posted on 10/23/2012 7:13:59 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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To: DemforBush

I almost didn’t recognize Nora. Probably hadn’t seen her since the glory days of Monica when she was, IMO, quite beautiful. Granted, 16 years is 16 years, but that is not a beautiful woman. Not ugly like DSW, but no longer a beauty. Maybe the inside and outside have become one.

29 posted on 10/23/2012 8:32:40 PM PDT by EDINVA (I)
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To: VeniVidiVici
It takes some serious scratch to keep submarines and aircraft carriers operating, and anyone who has been paying a little bit of attention can figure out we aren't going to do that with loans from Europe or China...

Hope is not an action plan, and those who used to have jobs have had enough 'change'.

30 posted on 10/23/2012 9:31:15 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Taxman

So far, Oprah has been strangely, and uncharacteristically QUIET!! - Of course, color is the only thing to Oprah; but, I suppose even Oprah doesn’t like being used and “skunked”. - In 2008, a lot of American women lived by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of Oprah; now, it’s “who’s Oprah?” and Hussein and Michelle have moved on.

31 posted on 10/24/2012 2:21:39 AM PDT by Twinkie (PEOPLE ARE HURTING IN OBAMA'S ECONOMY . . .)
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To: Slyfox

The one on the left is a drinker. You can see it in her face.

32 posted on 10/24/2012 3:25:37 AM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: Inyo-Mono
Well, thanks for the kind words!
33 posted on 10/24/2012 12:10:32 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Smokin' Joe; Inyo-Mono
Joe, I think that's one of the best posts on the board, for succinctly stating The Problem.
34 posted on 10/24/2012 12:23:02 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Twinkie

Thanks for the comeback.

Mayhap she’ll endorse Romney Real Soon Now?

35 posted on 10/24/2012 5:29:55 PM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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