Posted on 11/07/2012 1:14:10 AM PST by Arthurio
Mitt Romney has fewer votes than John McCain received in 2008! Republicans stayed home!
As of right now, Romney has close to 56,000,000 votes nationwide. In 2008, John McCain had nearly 60,000,000 votes. (Per Wikipedia)
It looks like if all the people who voted for McCain turned out again and voted for Romney, we would have been rid of the Kenyan once and for all.
People stayed home.
It looks like all the Freepers who said they'd never vote for Mitt were not making idle threats
The Day Of The Zombie Voters
we are faced with facts and we deny them. I’m not sure for whom I feel more sorry, those of us that that know what’s coming or those that deny it or are too ignorant to understand.
The electoral realities are what they are.
So if the GOP/Romney is in on the fraud then the election is fixed by both sides. So why did you vote for Romney if it was a predetermined outcome and he was purposely the fall guy?
And what can we do if both sides are going to present a candidate with ones of them picked to lose like pro wrestling? We get behind a third party with 4 percent of the vote and the same outcome?
Romney wanted to win and ran a good campaign. It’s not his fault. We just don’t have the votes anymore.
We didn't lose because of fraud.
We didn't lose because of bad turnout by conservatives. FReepers who say that are ascribing to themselves wayyyyy more importance than they deserve.
We didn't lose because we didn't focus on the right states.
We didn't lose because of a bad candidate.
We didn't lose because of a bad election team.
We lost because a message of individual liberty and personal responsibility simply is not what the typical American believes in anymore.
What the typical American believes in is a false empathy that equates handouts to indigent and stupid people with "compassion," and a President who "relates" to their problems.
What a typical American believes in is a completely feminized, unprincipled co-op, where the concepts of duty, honor, and country, are simply words.
Greedy businessmen have opened our country to refugees from a third world shithole for the sake of lowering their costs by displacing them to taxpayers.
All of us -- liberals and conservatives alike -- have literally allowed the lunatics to take over the asylum so that people who in previous generations were regarded as mentally ill are now destroying many of our basic institutions, because no one would speak up and say, "wait, sexual deviancy is not, by definition, a normative behavior, neither the addiction to or recreational use of drugs is healthy, families with only one parent (by design) are not acceptable, and the portrayal of sexual and violent pornography as harmless is ultimately destructive."
We have been weakened by prosperity. Now we will discover through adversity if the America of our fathers and grandfathers can be revived.
thank you That is what I am saying to myself.
Massive voter fraud is easily winked at today. Because those who ought to prosecute it won’t.
The polls should not have been crammed from dawn to dusk with long lines Tuesday, if the early voting had done what it was supposed to do.
The majority of the Obama campaign was spent energizing its base.
The Romney campaign was predicated on the GOP base voting no matter that he wasn’t a conservative, he didn’t reach out to conservatives, evangelicals weren’t entirely comfortable with Mormonism, he distanced himself from the tea party, and he went out of his way to distance himself from the base’s and party’s natural leader in Sarah Palin.
The base wasn’t extending itself in 2008 for McCain, but for Palin—who had higher approval numbers much of the time than Romney ever did. Had he worked early on to truly unify the party by embracing Palin and even convincing her to be his veep he could have won.
But this was so close and Obama was so beatable that had he even forced the media to expose Obama’s gun-running for Al-Qaeda and its allies in the US orchestrated ‘Arab Spring’, he could have won. Or, had he not been so proud as to constantly plump Romneycare and he had instead really made Obamacare an issue, he could have won. Had he not played footsie with idiots like Christie, who burned him in the end, he could have won.
His campaign was run by a bunch of GOP strategists from MA who somehow thought the tactics that enabled him or, in a wave election, Scott Brown to win in MA were the tactics that would make him win nationally.
Bush received 62 million votes in 2004. That would have been enough.
America really did fall in love with Big Ears and his baloney and bull hockey, you say.
It’s a freak country.
Post 84 - great post and I agree.
I wanted Romney to win this, but more importantly I wanted to know where we stand as a nation. The choice was clear. It was pretty close but the takers and wanters outnumber the producers and self-reliants.
Disappointing but when you see where we have been headed, aided by Democrats and Republicans alike, it is not that surprising.
I have two disappointments tonight - there are not enough of us and Romney would have been a good president.
Who knows what the truth is. All I know is Obama won so time for plan B.
One thing I will note... People here kept talking about Romney’s big rallies, and how few showed up to obama’s... But I’m 2004, Kerry was having monster rallies. Even Mondale had his biggest rallies right before losing 49 states. Enthusiasm from a minority is not good enough.
The self ID myth is one I've posted on in the past.
For instance, 65% of non-Cuban Hispanics describe themselves as Conservative.
But, they consistently vote 70% Democrat.
Like you, I got very excited about the Gallup +3 GOP poll.
But, the last number I heard from exit surveys was Democrats +6.
That's a lot of undetected cheating, if that's what happened.
Fact is, Romney will lose by about 2%, which is inside the margin of error for most major polls.
Everyone’s talking like Obama got some Reagan 49 state landslide. People he is the first president in 70 years to win a second term with less votes. To me that spells lame duck real fast. I doubt the economy is going to get any better and he will become political poison pretty fast. Let’s also consider gains were made in the house and I read on drudge republicans have increased edge in govenors
Yeah. I agree. But I am stuck now between tired, confused and a little bit shocked mixed with a calmness of what do we do next feeling. If this was fraud then what do we do about it or what can we do next time?
Something doesn’t add up.
Romney was getting monster crowds while whats his face was not.
Something else that i never understood was the black vote. The eligle black voters must be around 7-8%?
Same with the Hispanic vote. Gay voters even less...
It’s hard for me to figure out the truth. Is it the electorate, fraud, a mix or what? I agree the fraud thing sounds like a good angle, but I also agree with your comments that it could be the electorate filled with socialists coming out to vote for socialism. Period.
Reeeeeeelleeeeee???????????
Uhm, NO....
I got an email from Rob McKenna, the Republican who was running for Governor of Washington that said that 20,000 ballots were tossed tonight in WA within hours of the polls closing.
Not falling in line after the convention doesn’t make sense either. No third party guy has a chance. In fact those voting for them might have taken votes away from the GOP guy. I don’t know the solution to get both the 3rd party conservatives to join in with the GOP except nominating a conservative.
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