Politics is about forming coalitions and apparently conservatives aren’t very good at that. One issue voters have caused our downfall. If we aren’t willing to vote for the lesser of two evils then we will always get the greater of two evils.
I don’t get it.
All of the ‘evangelicals’ I know (and I count myself among them) were motivated to vote and did so. Yes, we understand the ‘cult’ aspects of Mormanism, but agreed that Mitt Romney was, at heart, a good man and most definitely the BETTER man for this country.
Lines to vote were huge, every where. The general excitement was palpable.
I still don’t buy the meme that ‘we’ sat this one out.
I believe we got schooled by a gifted grifter and his amazing team of sneaks. With the state-run media leading the way (and mopping up from behind) there will never be a valid inquiry into irregularities.
As far as I’m concerned, anyone who perceives themseleves as a conservative and chose to sit it out is as guilty as those morons who voted for a Marxist/socialist state.
I voted third party (for Goode), because I wanted my dissapproval of both candidates recorded.
I weighted the candidates and I didn't see enough difference to justify voting for one over the other.
Usually I vote social values over pocket book on the theory that if we are a morally upright nation God will bless us with wisdom in other areas. And if we are not, the best economic plan in the world won't help us.
There were many serious concerns I had about Romney.
I want the rule of law observed with regard to natural born citizenship and eligibility. But the GOP is now part of this conspiracy, because they've had control of the House and failed to investigate it. Consequently this issue is off the table for this election.
Middle East: Romney seemed a stronger supporter of Israel, but I took that with a grain of salt. I don't think he views Israel the same way most Christians do. And his lack of credibility mitigates his strong stance on Israel. Plus he failed to distinguish what he would have done different with regard to Arab Spring.
Liberalism and future elections. If we are going to have a liberal president, let it be a democrat one. It'll be better for us in the future, than if a GOP labeled liberal gets into office.
There are way too many whose pastors say that voting for anyone but a Christian is not Christian. We are NOT voting for a national pastor, so this is LAME! We ARE voting to continue in a Constitutional government instead of tyranny. Thanks to all who are too narrow of sight to see that America’s future depends on a free society. I guess when they start rounding us all up for the concentration camps they’l realize, but too late. I am ANGRY. Stupid people. Cannot think for themselves, but follow a warped “theology” that doesn’t hold up in the True LIGHT of Scripture. You cannot bend Scripture to hold to every form of government. We do not have a theocracy. Our Constitution was based on Biblical principles. But we were not given a theocracy. but a civilian government. The Scriptures were to inform the people for life and relations with one another and God. They do not tell us how to vote, other than to uphold men and women who live morally and uphold moral principles. I just want to cry! But the worst is their smugness. They think they are superior. Pride cometh before a fall, but we wil ALL participate in your consequences.
Go back into the history of threads here, also the Romney Files that were posted by Robinson for months. Votes for Romney, even against Obama were discouraged and a lot of freepers were banned for disagreeing with that tactic.
I’m not complaining, just noting this in response to your post. I suspect that up to 3 million less votes for Romney versus McCain in 2008, had to do with freeper activity, he’s a Mormon, and, yes, he switched policies, etc. All valid issues at some level, but they all ended up producing 4 more years of Obama and a liberal Supreme Court is on the way.
It’s almost unbelievable how many “conservatives” are willing to let the USA get raped for 4 more years because Romney wasn’t conservative enough. They were given the choice between brain cancer and and a head cold, but apparently were too naive to tell the difference. We could have started the process of reversing some of the damage we’ve incurred under Obama but these people just didn’t understand that sometimes you have to play defense and limit the damage when the only other option is full destruction ahead. Their conviction ate their common sense.
And one other key issue that hurt Romney in the Social Values category was choosing Ryan as VP.
I give Ryan credit for trying to balance the budget. But he failed to recognize that the Budget reflects a seriously impaired economy. Instead of putting people back to work, he went after the safety nets and entitlements.
I want a fiscally responsible government but not one that unwisely drops the import tariffs our founding father’s had in place and then kicks people when they are out of work as a result. Not this way.
How we treat the poor is near and dear to God’s heart. Scripture repeatedly says He watches that. I’m all for eliminating fraud and putting programs on sound footings, but arbitrary cuts and without addressing the economy. Not for me.
Romneys strategy was heavily weighted on getting a huge number
of moderates and independents on both sides. He trashed conserative
candidates during the primaries, but then treated Obama with kid gloves. I am a conservative and I voted for Romney.
Howevr, He failed with his strategy to win without conservative voters.
My suggestion to you is to address your disappointment to the moderates and independents on both sides who did not turn out in
the numbers his campaign expected.
Pick a different strategy or a different type of candidate next time.
Just a quick note to all those that told me if I vote third party I am throwing my vote away...
I voted for rinoromney in spite of myself.. and that was throwing my vote away!!!
my protest vote for a third party would have had a more far reaching message, especially if all on here that KNEW what a fraud rinoromney was stuck to our guns and voted third party..
I am done wasting my vote.... no more moderate or liberal pubs get my vote, EVER...
Someone needs to do some SERIOUS research into WHY so many Repubs did not vote......
Those who didn’t vote at all because Romney was too liberal are like ones who would rather be executed than suffer a few lashes of the whip.....essentially, by not voting they did vote: for the destruction of our nation.
There will be no turning back from the results of:
* new Marxist Supreme Court judges
* Obamacare sealed for perpetuity - or until the nation collapses
* the financial collapse of the dollar and then the nation
Anyone who couldn’t see that Romney would have been vastly different and better than Obama is also a misguided fool.
People who want to sit in a “conservative” ivory tower had better wake up.
My goal is always to get a candidate as conservative as possible elected.
People forget that other people in the country have different opinions than we do. We need to get them to come our way as much as possible. If we insist in purity at the top of the ticket; we become just a cute, irrelevant sideshow.
The possibility of the shakeout of fawning elements in the politcal structure will come about quicker with unbridled socialist/corporatist leverage. Had Romney been elected this would have slowed, and much mischief could have resulted behind the scenes.
Compromise, abdication, and unstatesmanlike conduct will be measured now, with the higher level of electorate awareness, and galvanize those who desire better.
I am of the opinion that the purpose of God, to become Sovereign in the affairs of men through Christ, cannot be averted, and this is all precursory to His Advent. I will not be at all surprised should things not return to normalcy, as that would prevent the ushering in of this longed-for event.
For those ignorant of God’s plan to prove man incapable of ruling himself, or others, without His influence and Son, politics and voting will remain a false hope and a temporary panacea for their mortal disconnect. History has proven this hopeless endeavor never fails to fail.
Given the choice between Romneycare and Obamacare that didn’t really seem to be much of a choice. Pragmatism says that second midterm is generally a bloodbath for the party of the sitting president, and sitting VPs tend to get the nomination but don’t win the election. Better in the long run to strengthen GOP control of the House, gain control of the Senate, and hope an actual conservative gets the GOP nod in 2016.
IF they sat it out, they will pay, just like those of us that stood in line. The figures pretty much show 14% of Repubs didn’t vote. My biggest disappointment is the Tea Party which has done NOTHING since the 2008 win. That alone should have made Obama lose ... but it didn’t happen. The Tea Party is Dead.
Unless you can show me vast numbers of ballots with republican representatives and write-ins or blanks for president, then I don't believe this meme. The fact is, every year 2.5 million people die. Over 4 years thats 10 million people. We need to be replacing our departed conservatives with new conservatives. That means converting young democrats who come out of college and can't get jobs. That means converting young men and women who start working and realize that much of their effort is taken from them and given to much less deserving. We need to offer freedom over free stuff. And it's a tough sale.
Get over it.
You can’t keep voting for the lessor of two evils. You have to draw a line somewhere on what is acceptable, and what is not. Especially when it comes to Abortion, and homosexuality. And to a lessor extent when your better choice is a socialist. Pay no attention to what he tried to deceive you into thinking he was. Pay attention to what he has already proven to be. And I never heard that he got down on his knees and cried that he had seen the light. Otherwise it might be different.
Your argument is tested and proven to be a lie. It does not lead to any kind of awakening for the country. The country continues to slide. Just as it did under Bush. If people had taken a stand then. We would have got Gore, But we would have never ended up with Obama.
The elite play you. The left plays you into giving up your values piece by piece. They sit in rooms and actually plan how to wear you down, and to change you and make you conform to their whims. Gramsci was one of the first to devise such a great plan to take out the west, and his plan worked.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2956227/posts
Think of your self as a bouncing Ball. You bounce so high in all your goodness. They get you to compromise. Then you don’t bounce so high. Then they get you to compromise again. You bounce even less high. And so on until you are laying still on the floor completely broken from what you once were. Like wise they destroy your country as well. You Willingly let yourself be deceived.
Likewise when you hear that Boehner has compromised. Then what you are really hearing is that you are losing your country little by little to those who hated what it was, and wished to destroy it.
Why should God help anyone who stands for nothing. He won’t.
Even as I voted for Romney, I had a sick feeling that he was going to disappoint me, as a conservative. I just knew that he was going to give in to the Dems and Bohner and McConnell would be as spineless as usual.
Well, I feel sure they will still cave on demand.