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BREAKING: Massive Voter Fraud in St. Lucie County, Florida [False assumption? Two card ballot?]
Townhall.com ^ | November 10, 2012 | Heather Ginsberg

Posted on 11/10/2012 4:05:42 PM PST by Kaslin

On Tuesday only one precinct had less than 113% turnout. “The Unofficial vote count is 175,554 registered voters 247,713 vote cards cast (141.10% ). The National SEAL Museum, a St. Lucie county polling place, had 158.85% voter turn out, the highest in the county.”

The Supervisor of Elections, Gertrude Walker, had this to say concerning the 141% voter turnout: “They may have had something like that in Palm Beach County, but we’ve never seen that here.”

So maybe Allen West wasn’t crazy to ask for a lock-down on the ballot boxes and machines in this county. According to the report given the day after elections, Allen B. West garnered 52,625 votes in St.Lucie county and Patrick Murphy 65,896 votes.

This is a problem that must be addressed right away. There is no reason that there should ever be more than 100% turnout. This county alone could have cost Allen West his election. Voter fraud is real, and it is time that this be solved.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 2012fraud; 2012swingstates; allenwes; allenwest; debunked; elections; fl2012; florida; fraud; voterfraud; voterfraudprevention; west
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To: Kaslin

If this is because of a 2 card system WHY ARE THE CARD #’s ODD NUMBERS?


161 posted on 11/11/2012 7:04:36 AM PST by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: struggle

Because there are some that didn’t cast the 2nd Card. The fraud isn’t there. It’s in the Blank Votes that appear on the first Card [and 2nd].

According to St Lucie stats, about 4500 people voted for President and then turned their cards in without voting for anything/anyone else — even Senator or House seats even though they were hotly contested.

That defies logic —

http://www.slcelections.com/Pdf%20Docs/2012%20General/GEMS%20SOVC%20REPORT.pdf


162 posted on 11/11/2012 8:20:01 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: deport

St. Lucie County Supervisor of Elections Gertrude Walker has gone to ground and is lawyering up. We assured they were involved in the fraud. Obama is going to tear this country apart.


163 posted on 11/11/2012 9:07:57 AM PST by Hoosier-Daddy ( "It is not our job to protect the people from the consequences of their political choices.")
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To: butterdezillion

IF Romney does not challenge the election, then he is no better than Pontius Pilate, and washing his hand of the people of the United States, and resigning them to their fate.


164 posted on 11/11/2012 9:18:19 AM PST by Hoosier-Daddy ( "It is not our job to protect the people from the consequences of their political choices.")
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To: Kaslin

I spoke to a Democrat that said whe went from VA to PA to help register voters that were convicted felons during the elections?? She actually wrote it to me in a message on Facebook..isnt this illegal? And if so how can I report her?


165 posted on 11/11/2012 12:38:33 PM PST by Jessica2677 (We got this :))
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To: butterdezillion

And now the “birthers” have been legally vindicated through HI state registrar Alvin Onaka’s confirmation that Obama’s HI BC is not legally valid and the WH image is a forgery.


Apparently, I have missed this... Or is this sarcasm?

I peruse FR everyday...

Please enlighten me.


166 posted on 11/11/2012 12:51:19 PM PST by lyby ("Mathematics is the language with which God has written the universe." ~ Galileo Galilei)
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To: machogirl
You wanted an "Official" response, here it is:

NOTE* - TURNOUT PERCENTAGES WILL SHOW OVER 100% DUE TO A TWO PAGE BALLOT. NOT ALL VOTERS VOTED THE SECOND CARD CONTAINING THE AMENDMENTS (link)

167 posted on 11/11/2012 4:21:33 PM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Jessica2677
I spoke to a Democrat that said whe went from VA to PA to help register voters that were convicted felons during the elections?? She actually wrote it to me in a message on Facebook..isnt this illegal? And if so how can I report her?

Nothing illegal about that. Felons who have been released from prison are eligible to vote in Pennsylvania, even if they are still on probation or parole. I believe felons in prison are actually eligible to register to vote, as long as they will be freed prior to election day.

Dems run felon voter registration drives in PA (and other similar states) because (a) felons tend to vote D (for obvious reasons), and (b) most such felons are not aware that they are eligible to vote.

168 posted on 11/11/2012 4:26:37 PM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

Glad they did it.

I wish she would honor her Website proclamation that ALL the early ballots would be counted.

Thank you for the link. ;)

I will check it out.

Today, the woman wasn’t even talking to the press and they were all kicked out.


169 posted on 11/11/2012 4:33:19 PM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline, it's back. 2008, the Decline of America)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

She must have finally posted that within the last two hours or so. lol

There are now larger fish to fry with this woman.


170 posted on 11/11/2012 4:36:03 PM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline, it's back. 2008, the Decline of America)
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To: machogirl
I wish she would honor her Website proclamation that ALL the early ballots would be counted.

Agreed.

171 posted on 11/11/2012 4:38:17 PM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

I vote for their county money that they pay her, go somewhere else.


172 posted on 11/11/2012 4:42:50 PM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline, it's back. 2008, the Decline of America)
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To: lyby

Here’s an earlier post that gives links to help you fully understand how Onaka’s verification in response to the specific request by AZ SOS Ken Bennett, done in accordance with HRS 338-13.3, confirms that Obama’s BC is legally non-valid. I confirmed the legal reasoning not only with Larry Klayman but also with 2 other attorneys, one of whom has argued cases against Obama that relied on the claims from Obama’s HI BC. But the point at which I realized this reasoning is sound was when I saw that the lawyer for MDEC, who is one of the Fogbow folks, actually patterned his request in order to accommodate Onaka’s disclosure that the record is non-valid. That is explained in the “Wheel of Fortune v Family Feud” link. So what we’ve got right now is 4 lawyers - including one on behalf of Obama and another whose past arguments depended on the HI BC being legitimate - who have all affirmed this legal reasoning. When I spoke with the legal counsel for NE SOS John Gale, he would/could not refute the legal reasoning, but rather first denied that Bennett had even requested the date of birth, etc to be verified and then after he had to admit that Bennett HAD requested that verification he finally said that he doesn’t have to care what HI said to AZ and could/would not take the time to analyze the argument that had been sent to him. That’s a lot of agreement and/or silence from a lot of people including those hostile to the final conclusion reached by the reasoning. I don’t know how you get more legal consensus than that.

Here’s that post:

The Hawaii state registrar, Alvin Onaka, has legally confirmed that he cannot verify any of Obama’s claimed birth facts - presumably because the birth certificate they have is not legally valid, since Onaka has verified that the claims on the White House BC image “match” (but are not identical to - as per his response to KS SOS Kris Kobach) the claims on the original record.

In addition he has confirmed that the White House image is NOT a “true and accurate representation of the original record on file”.

Without a legally valid record from Hawaii, there are no legally-determined birth facts for Obama saying he was born in Hawaii in 1961 to any US citizen. At BEST his eligibility cannot be legally known, and the chances of him having a non-valid BC if the claims on his Hawaii BC was correct is practically zero.

A legally non-valid BC for Obama explains why the 1960-64 birth index was altered to include names from legally non-valid records. Prior to Obama’s long-form forgery being made public, AP reporter Mark Niesse admitted in a public article that Obama’s name on the birth index list was the only concrete piece of evidence from the HDOH that Obama was born in Hawaii - yet now we know that the index tells us nothing about whether a legally valid Hawaii birth record exists for ANYBODY.

IOW, there is no positive evidence from Hawaii, and now the HDOH has confirmed that they have NO positive evidence of a Hawaii birth for Obama. And Obama posted a forgery to hide that fact.

See http://butterdezillion.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/wheel-of-fortune-v-family-feud-final.pdf to understand how Onaka verified these things.

See http://butterdezillion.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/complete-klayman-letter-to-bauer.pdf to read the letter Attorney Larry Klayman sent to DNC Counsel Bob Bauer warning him that any certification of Obama’s eligibility or candidacy would be perjurious and fraudulent. CC’s of that letter were sent to every member of the DNC Executive Committee, every member of the Committee on Presidential Debates, every state democratic party chair, every state Secretary of State, and every state Attorney General.

See http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2012/09/21/birth-index-list-does-not-indicate-legally-valid-record/ for proof that the 1960-64 birth index includes names from legally non-valid birth certificates.

See http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2954935/posts?page=32#32 for a summary of how the letter of verification unfolded.

See http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2954935/posts?page=37#37 for my theory on how Obama’s fraud transpired and why.


173 posted on 11/11/2012 4:49:59 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

from your post to me:

“That is explained in the “Wheel of Fortune v Family Feud” link.”

Ya lost me with that... WTF?


174 posted on 11/11/2012 4:59:08 PM PST by lyby ("Mathematics is the language with which God has written the universe." ~ Galileo Galilei)
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To: RGSpincich

And if you inserted only page 1 and somebody behind you inserted only page 2, would 2 undervotes be recorded, or only one complete vote?

What I’m saying is that if people are allowed to walk off with half of their ballot and there is no internal way for the computer to know how many complete BALLOTS were handed out, then the system is almost DESIGNED to allow fraud, since there is no way to audit the results.

If they had a way to know the number of BALLOTS cast, then it was stupid of them to use the field for the number of CARDS cast to calculate the turnout for the Presidential race. Only the first card would apply to the Presidential race. If they wanted to make the calculation reflect the turnout in the Presidential race alone (which is what that page of the report was about, not about the entire ballot), they should have counted how many PAGE ONE CARDS were cast.

If the writers of this software were this negligent then their incompetence is dangerous. If they made this flawed design deliberately then their treason/lawlessness is dangerous. Take your pick.

There are other fish to fry with this particular elections office. Hopefully Allen West will fry the fish from his end. Apparently Romney doesn’t have the stones to fry his own fish.


175 posted on 11/11/2012 5:07:54 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: KTM rider

If the election system cannot be audited, it is worthless.


176 posted on 11/11/2012 5:20:52 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: lyby

One of the links in the post was to a post I wrote, entitled “Wheel of Fortune v Family Feud”, at http://butterdezillion.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/wheel-of-fortune-v-family-feud-final.pdf

That post explains how the Mississippi Democratic Executive Committee’s request for verification differs from Bennett’s, and reveals how the MDEC request was fashioned specifically to accommodate Obama’s legally non-valid BC in Hawaii.

Does that help? There’s a lot of information but basically it comes down to the fact that Hawaii statute requires the registrar to verify whatever a qualified requestor submits, if the registrar can certify that it’s the way the birth really happened. If they have a legally-valid record, Hawaii vouches for the accuracy of the claims, and it’s up to the challenger to prove that the claims AREN’T true.

IOW, if there’s a legally valid record the “call on the field” from the State of Hawaii is that the claims are true. Those claims can be legally challenged by a review of the instant replay, but unless there is enough evidence to overturn the call on the field, that call stands.

Onaka would not verify any of the birth facts that Ken Bennett submitted. He confirmed that the facts submitted “matched” what they have on their record, so the only reason to not verify/certify them is if the record they have is not legally valid; Hawaii will not vouch for (certify) the truth of those claims because the record itself is legally suspicious (non-valid).

IOW, the call on the field is that the claims are NOT true. Anybody who wants to LAWFULLY/LEGALLY say that Obama WAS born on Aug 4, 1961 in Honolulu, HI to Stanley Ann Dunham and Barack Hussein Obama has to show from the instant replay evidence enough to OVERTURN the call on the field.

Clear as mud?


177 posted on 11/11/2012 5:25:01 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Or worse - an accomplice to election fraud.


178 posted on 11/11/2012 5:29:17 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

Clear as mud?


absolutely

Thank you for clarification...


179 posted on 11/11/2012 5:33:07 PM PST by lyby ("Mathematics is the language with which God has written the universe." ~ Galileo Galilei)
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To: butterdezillion

Apparently Romney doesn’t have the stones to fry his own fish.


I definitely concur with your statement. What a fiasco. What a disaster. Where are our MEN? Where is Patrick Henry... oh, that’s right, he is DEAD.


180 posted on 11/11/2012 5:36:39 PM PST by lyby ("Mathematics is the language with which God has written the universe." ~ Galileo Galilei)
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