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Basically every email is collected for later use. No wonder Bill Clinton boast he only sent two email as President.
1 posted on 12/02/2012 1:42:12 PM PST by Orange1998
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the political party also has a lot of information on everyone. It has admitted as much; the ground game and all that.
All information which could be politically abused by those in power. the party needs to be regulated with respect to this. A person should be able to know what information the party knows about them and be able to demand deletion of personal information.


43 posted on 12/02/2012 3:07:11 PM PST by The Free Engineer
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This is true.

FR goes down on key dates or gets slow as molasses, too.

‘Nuf said.


46 posted on 12/02/2012 3:10:56 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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Thomas Jefferson (1743–1826, 3rd POTUS, ) .Jefferson will always be celebrated for articulating the American national creed, the fundamental and universal principles of self-government that he set forth in the Declaration of Independence.

A few quotes:

Was the government to prescribe to us our medicine and diet, our bodies would be in such keeping as our souls are now.

To take from one because it is thought that his own industry and that of his father’s has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers, have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association—the guarantee to every one of a free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it.

I think myself that we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious. (Back then!)

Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want bread.

God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty.... And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure

He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.

To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.

It is better to tolerate that rare instance of a parent’s refusing to let his child be educated, than to shock the common feelings by a forcible transportation and education of the infant against the will of his father.

... and finally:

I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just.


50 posted on 12/02/2012 3:24:49 PM PST by WVKayaker ("Hang in there, America. Fight for what is right." - Sarah Palin 11/7/12)
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Here's an email I sent to everyone in my address bookNow awaiting the black helicopters.

This is so incredibly asinine and silly. For 99.99999999999999999% of the emails, who cares? Terabytes and terabytes (petabytes?) of storage to store our emails? That's quite absurd.

54 posted on 12/02/2012 3:46:25 PM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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FUNO, FUBO, FUBO, etc.


55 posted on 12/02/2012 3:54:18 PM PST by MtnClimber (I did not vote for 0bama, someone else did that!)
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Able Danger - Echelon - Curt Weldon - John Poindexter

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oops. Must’ve hit a wrong key

;o)


58 posted on 12/02/2012 4:11:41 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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61 posted on 12/02/2012 4:28:14 PM PST by Eye of Unk (A Civil Cold War in America is here, its already been declared.)
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Hmmm... Code injection could create a nightmare for them. I’ve been toying with it to deal with bots and such. The NSA is a much more worthy target.


65 posted on 12/02/2012 4:57:42 PM PST by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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They can’t even find room in the nation’s prisons for the murderers, thieves, rapists, and other thugs.

Once they decide finally - once and for all - to trash the First Amendment and arrest all the political dissidents, they’ll have to round up pretty much everyone else.

Wonder how the food’ll be in Yankee Stadium...


72 posted on 12/02/2012 5:37:07 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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privacy will be the currency of the twenty first century


77 posted on 12/02/2012 5:58:22 PM PST by InvisibleChurch (the mature Christian is almost impossible to offend)
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To: Orange1998
This has been going on for some time.

No electronic communication is secure. None. Always assume that everyone knows what you said, and that it was you.

Which brings up the question, how secure is traditional mail?

84 posted on 12/05/2012 9:36:34 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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Geez, these poor guys must be overloaded with work...first they monitor the porn sites for ????, and now all emails. Gotta feel sorry for those tyrannical, treasonous busy-bodies.

Molon labe, murthafockers!


88 posted on 12/05/2012 11:14:55 AM PST by Ancesthntr (FReeper (and under NSA surveillance) since 2000.)
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Dear NSA busybodies:

I will soon commence wearing a mask—even if it is several pieces of duct tape OR I will smile a great deal.

Maddie 10


93 posted on 12/05/2012 12:37:24 PM PST by madison10
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To: Orange1998; ASA Vet; BIGLOOK

Actually, this started in 1947 when the United Kingdom countries, America a few others started listening in on telephone messages and other electronic information transmissions.

We can’t legally monitor Americans but England, Australia, Canada and New Zealand can and get info back to us. We inturn return the favors by monitoring those countries.

It is called Project Echelon: Which means any electronically method of transmission voice/data/code is probably monitored.

Go to the link below and read it and learn.

http://www.nsawatch.org/echelonfaq.html

Q - What is Project ECHELON?

ECHELON is the term popularly used for an automated global interception and relay system operated by the intelligence agencies in five nations: the United States, the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia and New Zealand (it is believed that ECHELON is the code name for the portion of the system that intercepts satellite-based communications). While the United States National Security Agency (NSA) takes the lead, ECHELON works in conjunction with other intelligence agencies, including the Australian Defence Signals Directorate (DSD). It is believed that ECHELON also works with Britain’s Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) and the agencies of other allies of the United States, pursuant to various treaties. (1)

These countries coordinate their activities pursuant to the UKUSA agreement, which dates back to 1947. The original ECHELON dates back to 1971. However, its capabilities and priorities have expanded greatly since its formation. According to reports, it is capable of intercepting and processing many types of transmissions, throughout the globe. In fact, it has been suggested that ECHELON may intercept as many as 3 billion communications everyday, including phone calls, e-mail messages, Internet downloads, satellite transmissions, and so on. (2) The ECHELON system gathers all of these transmissions indiscriminately, then distills the information that is most heavily desired through artificial intelligence programs. Some sources have claimed that ECHELON sifts through an estimated 90 percent of all traffic that flows through the Internet. (3)

However, the exact capabilities and goals of ECHELON remain unclear. For example, it is unknown whether ECHELON actually targets domestic communications.

This is just a tiny excerpt. If you are interested, allow at least 30 minutes to go the link and work the sublinks:

http://www.nsawatch.org/echelonfaq.html

Then, on your own search out Echelon. Just remember, you will probably be monitored.


102 posted on 12/05/2012 2:35:55 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Tagline space for rent to pay for some of my extra taxes the next 4 years!)
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They are too incompetent to probably even find my postings.


103 posted on 12/05/2012 2:38:35 PM PST by Fledermaus (The Republic is Dead: Collapse the system. Let the Dems destroy the economy!)
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How can I moon the NSA?


108 posted on 12/05/2012 6:09:57 PM PST by Quickgun (I came here screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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The issue isn’t the information they keep on you. It is the information they CLAIM to have on you.

Let’s say a corrupt intelligence official decides to assassinate a public official. They find someone who opposes this official politically and create incriminating evidence which gets mixed in with the actual collected intelligence. The deed is done by a professional and the schmuck is framed with the created and real “evidence”. Wouldn’t matter if it was unusable in court, just leak it to the MSM and the damage is done.

Maybe a low level mobster would take out the schmuck before he goes to trial and it all gets wrapped up in a bow.

Naw, couldn’t happen...


109 posted on 12/06/2012 8:44:11 AM PST by Crusher138 ("Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just")
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Do you have any idea how much your phone company spends just in maintenence?

No, I never really thought about that.

Well, I guess many people don't. But those billions of miles of wire and all those exchanges... Why just the maintenance on our thousands of offices and buildings... And that's not even to mention our rolling stock -- the cars, trucks, airplanes and satellites. And then all those fine people who are actually on the payroll to take care of all that.

Now, wouldn't it be just grand if we could get rid of all that old-fashioned hardware?

And there's another thing that's going to come as a surprise to you. There are quite a few people who actually dislike "The Phone Company." And because of this irrational dislike of their own publicly-owned company, they often don't pay their bills and sometimes even damage the equipment.

Can you imagine the ease, the fun, with which you can place a call? Why all you have to do is think the number of the person you wish to speak to and you're in instant communication -- anywhere in the world.

... Congress will have to pass a law substituting personal numbers for names as the only legal identification, and requiring a pre-natal insertion of the Cerebrum Communicator. Then a communication tax could be levied and paid directly to "The Phone Company."


119 posted on 12/07/2012 11:15:50 AM PST by Mat_Helm
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