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Boehner Fiscal Cliff 'Plan B' Rejected by GOP Caucus, House to Recess for Christmas
Thursday, Deecember 20, 2012

Posted on 12/20/2012 5:16:50 PM PST by kristinn

Capitol Hill reporters on Twitter writing Speaker Boehner has dropped Plan B fiscal cliff vote tongiht after revolt from House Republican caucus. House will recess until after Christmas.

After raucus closed dooor House GOP meeting, Boehner says House has already passed bills to cut spending and taxes to avert fiscal cliff and the ball is the court of the Senate and President Obama.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; US: Ohio; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 112th; boehner; conservtaxincrease; fiscalcliff; johnboehner; notbreakingnews; planb; vanity
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To: sickoflibs

I bet many will come on here squealing when their paycheck is noticeably less next month.


51 posted on 12/20/2012 5:51:21 PM PST by Arthurio
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To: frogjerk
I guess if you believe in the Constitution

However, the Constitution DOES give Congress the power to levy taxes.

Problem is...if you insist on 100% of what you want (no tax hike at all on millionaires) you may end up hiking tax rates for thousands and thousands of small businesses instead.

52 posted on 12/20/2012 5:52:11 PM PST by what's up
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To: what's up

Really stupid on the part of the Republicans. They had victory within their reach and once again have failed.

Yeesh


53 posted on 12/20/2012 5:53:20 PM PST by silentknight
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To: Reddon

“But I am tired of politicians who know better being so scared of stupid people and corrupt people.”

Amen, Time for Men with Honor and Guts to Speak the Truth and stop playing Politics...


54 posted on 12/20/2012 5:53:25 PM PST by jafojeffsurf (Return to the Constitution)
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To: jeltz25

I know not much of an onus, but at least something - now Boehner said he is now letting Reid & 0bama put together a plan


55 posted on 12/20/2012 5:53:43 PM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: PLMerite

This is a huge victory! Conservatives stood up to the rino leadership. Bravo!


56 posted on 12/20/2012 5:53:43 PM PST by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: kristinn

Boehner should have taken care of routine House business and then recessed after Thanksgiving.


57 posted on 12/20/2012 5:54:49 PM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: PMAS

Why would the Rats be laughing?. It was Pelosi’s plan before it was
Boneheads Plan.


58 posted on 12/20/2012 5:56:04 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: kristinn

Could this be enough to cause Boehner to be replaced as Speaker in the next Congress?

Nah. Pubbies won’t want to embarrass him, so they might grumble and growl, but they will reelect him.


59 posted on 12/20/2012 5:56:40 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: kristinn

I’m thinking a bunch of congressmen are realizing that they’re getting creamed with their own base.

What do you think?


60 posted on 12/20/2012 5:57:12 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Today's headline: 'As expected, Boehner folds.' This tag should be good for quite awhile...)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

“we already went off the damn cliff years ago”

So True and that just ticks me off when they keep playing this game. Time for Men, Honor, And Truth.


61 posted on 12/20/2012 5:57:26 PM PST by jafojeffsurf (Return to the Constitution)
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To: tennmountainman

Because they look like the gang that cant shoot straight.


62 posted on 12/20/2012 5:57:41 PM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: Arthurio
RE :”I bet many will come on here squealing when their paycheck is noticeably less next month.”

Here's my thoughts on that:
How it will probably play out#46

One freeper just told me in a comment that I am lucky-to make enough to pay taxes and should welcome a tax increase. is this DU ?

63 posted on 12/20/2012 5:58:15 PM PST by sickoflibs (Dems know how to win. Rs know how to whine.)
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To: Lancey Howard

If the GOP wishes to survive, they had better pass it. This is playing out very badly.


64 posted on 12/20/2012 5:58:36 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: silentknight
The earlier bill today passed. I thought this one would pass by a similar margin.

I wonder how many votes they were short.

65 posted on 12/20/2012 5:59:14 PM PST by what's up
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To: Las Vegas Ron
I guess this takes us back to the Ryan budget of last summer. Still in the hopper until the Senate adjourns sine die.
66 posted on 12/20/2012 6:02:18 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: PLMerite

“Okay, so why does Mark Levin say this is a good thing?”

Because he is smart.


67 posted on 12/20/2012 6:02:18 PM PST by TheLawyerFormerlyKnownAsAl
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To: JRandomFreeper
RE :”You make enough to pay taxes on? Be thankful..”

???? You still have me in shock with that one, and laughing too

I swear an rabid Obama supporter at work told me the same thing, and he is a black immigrant from Africa yet/.

68 posted on 12/20/2012 6:03:14 PM PST by sickoflibs (Dems know how to win. Rs know how to whine.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

They should have passed a clean bill extending the Bush Tax Cuts FOR EVERYBODY and fixing the AMT problem. They better do it when they get back. How can the Dems blame the Republicans for raising taxes when they pass a bill to NOT raise taxes?


69 posted on 12/20/2012 6:03:58 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: jeltz25

What really changed is that Reid and Obama did not want the House to pass Plan B. It would have sent all the slop over to the Senate, which is totally dysfunctional. Reid pocketing a bill would not absolve him responsibility.

The GOP far right made a decision based on primaries in their own districts in 2014 rather than bitch slapping Obama and Reid tonight - and thru the holiday week.

This is now a rerun of last year’s payroll tax disaster.


70 posted on 12/20/2012 6:04:02 PM PST by mwl8787
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To: Sarah Barracuda

They should have passed a clean bill extending the Bush Tax Cuts FOR EVERYBODY and fixing the AMT problem. They better do it when they get back. How can the Dems blame the Republicans for raising taxes when they pass a bill to NOT raise taxes?


71 posted on 12/20/2012 6:04:14 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: kristinn

Boehner is now a SINO, Speaker in name only. His leadership is done!


72 posted on 12/20/2012 6:04:40 PM PST by cotton1706
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To: kristinn

I guess I’m missing something. All I EVER HEAR on this site is complaints about too much deficit spending and too much social spending.

Well, BOTH are about to be cut, BIG-TIME, in just over a week. Yes, the middle and lower classes will have to START paying taxes again, but why so many complaints?


73 posted on 12/20/2012 6:06:31 PM PST by BobL (Agenda 21...Agenda 21...Agenda 21...Agenda 21...Agenda 21... (whatever the hell that is))
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To: hinckley buzzard

Y’know, the pubbies are going to come out of this smelling like shit anyway, they should jump on the elegibility issue ... HAMMER the sucker .. and at least get some fanatical voices back on their side.


74 posted on 12/20/2012 6:07:23 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: mwl8787

I diagree. I think once Obama saw the GOP fold on taxes for those over 1M he’d come out and say something like “I’m glad Republicans are finally starting to get serious. I still believe in a balanced approach and that we need to restore the taxes on high earners over 250 back to the Clinton days, they’re just isn’t enough revenue from just those over 1M, etc...” and the media would have covered for him and backed him up and forced the GOP to concede even further.

At some point they have to stand up to Obama and see where it takes them.

I say hold out and see how things look when it really gets down to business on the 31st.


75 posted on 12/20/2012 6:08:03 PM PST by jeltz25
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To: kristinn

How about this for Plan take it or leave it?

20% cut across the board from the baseline of 2008... or how about we go back to Clinton’s last budget. Leave it up to each agency to figure out how to get their budgets to that level.

Promote it to the American people as you can’t spend over your budget, and we can’t spend over America’s budget.


76 posted on 12/20/2012 6:08:10 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (bahits.com)
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To: sickoflibs
So, you work for a millionaire?

You work hourly for wages?

I see.

/johnny

77 posted on 12/20/2012 6:08:40 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: kristinn

House to Recess for Christmas with the Bush tax cuts for the RICH, oops, I mean Bush tax cuts for everyone to expire.

I think, let the rats own it. Let them own the increased taxes on everyone. The rats have lied for years about the current tax structure. Saying repeatedly that the Bush tax cuts were only for the “rich”.


78 posted on 12/20/2012 6:10:23 PM PST by RedMDer (Please support Toys for Tots this CHRISTmas season.)
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To: PMAS
Pre markets are down Dow - down 220

Yet Gold is down 5.00 on the overnight spot market.

79 posted on 12/20/2012 6:11:24 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard

I hope gold keeps going down, I need to buy more :)


80 posted on 12/20/2012 6:13:00 PM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: JRandomFreeper
I haven't seen positive income in 3 years.

Once enough of us get to that level, they'll start taxing us on gross sales.

81 posted on 12/20/2012 6:13:20 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: kristinn

Glad to see Boehner’s “Plan B” go down in flames due to lack of Republican support.

President JugEars was willing to have taxes go up on only the top 1% just to get the Republicans on record of supporting tax increases. Once you have gotten them to break their pledge and set the precedent, then they might as well raise taxes on “only the top 5%”, then “only the top 10%.”

Then they will come for the rest of us.

Thank goodness there are still enough Rs with spines to prevent Boehner’s cave on this.


82 posted on 12/20/2012 6:13:44 PM PST by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: kristinn

The system is dysfunctional. Time to crash and burn it ASAP. Producers need to go on strike. Lil Barry and Ried will pay when the system goes belly up. When the cupboard is bare, they have nothing to hand out to the parasites. Lock and load.


83 posted on 12/20/2012 6:13:52 PM PST by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: NonValueAdded; Pride in the USA; Stillwaters
Next step, new Speaker.

From your keyboard to the ears of whatever House conservatives are willing to be counted. We only need 16 of them to withold their votes and deny him the position.

84 posted on 12/20/2012 6:16:20 PM PST by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: mwl8787
The GOP far right made a decision based on primaries in their own districts in 2014

You mean they actually represented their constituents? Hard to fathom...

85 posted on 12/20/2012 6:16:35 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: lonevoice

New speaker ? Please don’t tell me Eric Cantor is next in line


86 posted on 12/20/2012 6:21:36 PM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: SueRae

The Dow going down over 200 happens all the time. It happened the day after Obama was elected. When the 1st TARP vote was taken and failed, the Dow Dropped 500 immediately. The problem is that the government has too much control over the actions of the economy.


87 posted on 12/20/2012 6:22:09 PM PST by Windy City Conservative
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To: ez
GOP "far right"?

Okay, you do know this is FreeRepublic, not DummiesUnderground right?

88 posted on 12/20/2012 6:22:41 PM PST by SecondAmendment (Restoring our Republic at 9.8357x10^8 FPS)
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To: ez
GOP "far right"?

Okay, you do know this is FreeRepublic, not DummiesUnderground right?

89 posted on 12/20/2012 6:23:29 PM PST by SecondAmendment (Restoring our Republic at 9.8357x10^8 FPS)
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To: what's up

What about the Restaurants and small businesses who make over $1 million a year? Plan B would have raised their taxes and they have a lot more people to fire. Don’t worry, Obama will cut your taxes for you.


90 posted on 12/20/2012 6:24:30 PM PST by Windy City Conservative
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To: Deo volente
The answer to that problem is....Take it to the edge...Get what ever the Repups can get...Then tell the public...That's the best we, in the minority could do...We're all voting PRESENT...Here's your Democrapic mandate....Tell it how its working for you in the next election!!
91 posted on 12/20/2012 6:25:44 PM PST by M-cubed
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To: Mr. Jeeves
they'll start taxing us on gross sales.

That's even easier to fix.

/johnny

92 posted on 12/20/2012 6:27:52 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Windy City Conservative
This bill would have covered the most vulnerable...99.8% of taxpayers.

Some millionaires may be on the edge, but there are a lot more businesses on the edge between $250,000 and $1 M.

This bill would have protected these smaller businesses, portrayed the GOP as compromising, and put the onus on the WH to compromise further with spending cuts.

93 posted on 12/20/2012 6:28:47 PM PST by what's up
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To: mwl8787

Yes, what exactly is “far right”? What should this sinister faction have done tonight? Bob


94 posted on 12/20/2012 6:29:25 PM PST by alstewartfan ("You looked like a still From Cecil B DeMille When I saw you Waiting at my door." Al Stewart)
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To: PMAS

Dems know they have to raise taxes on everyone in order to keep their entitlement crap going..you can tax rich people til oblivion and it still won’t solve the fact that we are BANKRUPT..so of course they want to raise taxes on everyone..anyone with an IQ above 5 knows that, but the Dems know their supporters are dumb as cockroaches who will just hear the word “Tax increase” and blame it on Republicans..Dems have something the GOP will never have, the media on their side..the media tells morons what to think, it was like that in 2008 and the same thing is happening again now. I learned my lesson on November 6th to trust that enough people will see the truth


95 posted on 12/20/2012 6:29:41 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: RedMDer

I agree. The more the idiots out there are shielded from the real pain Obama wants to inflict on the country—the less they understand just what he’s doing.


96 posted on 12/20/2012 6:30:02 PM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: PLMerite
Because Plan B would have raised taxes on those making a million or more a year.

Conservatives not only don't DO tax increases they don't DO class warfare either.

Bonner should of friggin’ known better!

97 posted on 12/20/2012 6:30:59 PM PST by Happy Rain (Which fires first? The gun or the 2nd Amendment haters?)
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To: kristinn
Snort, chortle, giggle, giggle, tee, hee, roar!

Speaker Boehner is speaker of what? He can't even bring his caucus along.

Good thing the Democrats are central planners and they hadn't planned for Speaker FAIL!

If they had any brains, they would've jumped in and passed it. You'd have the Speaker and cronies voting with the Democrats to pass the Pelosi Plan.

It couldn't have happened to a better target. Boehner's boner.

Mark Levin reports Boehner is now resorting to threats about chairmanships. The Republican Central Planner is now unsurprisingly resorting to threats and punishment. What a leader?

Gee, with the elected House Republicans finally getting a spine, breathe the free air and continue in courage and vote for a new Speaker?

98 posted on 12/20/2012 6:31:14 PM PST by Jabba the Nutt (.Are they stupid, malicious or evil?)
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To: mwl8787
The GOP far right made....

Far right, you mean like us Conservatives?

You do realize this is a Conservative site right?

99 posted on 12/20/2012 6:32:35 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: SueRae

Looks like it’s done the 38% fibo retrace. Now we’ll have to see. I say S&P 500 @ 666 (again) would be the ticket for a few months from now.


100 posted on 12/20/2012 6:33:26 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not NurtureĀ™)
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