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Gov. John Kasich's Medicaid flip: Are conservatives embracing ObamaCare?
Yahoo News ^ | 2/5/13 | Peter Weber

Posted on 02/05/2013 1:35:36 PM PST by Jean S

Why did the Tea Party–backed governor of Ohio just say yes to a key part of President Obama's health care law?

Ohio Gov. John Kasich (R) is the latest governor to accept the hefty Medicaid expansion authorized by President Obama's health care overhaul. He's not the first Republican to do so — Brian Sandoval (Nev.), Susana Martinez (N.M.), Jack Dalrymple (N.D.), and Jan Brewer (Ariz.) have, too — but Kasich's opt-in is a bigger deal. As House Budget Committee chairman during the Newt Gingrich years, the "fiercely conservative" Kasich "built his political identity arguing for smaller government," says David Nather at Politico. And the expansion of Medicaid to every Ohio resident earning up to roughly 133 percent of the poverty level is inarguably a big expansion of government — and an embrace of a key mechanism of ObamaCare. That is not going over well with Kasich's conservative and Tea Party supporters, since he was one of their best hopes to stop ObamaCare at the state level.

Kasich has been twisting himself into a pretzel trying to argue that Medicaid expansion isn't really ObamaCare.... But the fact remains that broader Medicaid coverage is a central piece of Obama's health care law, and thanks to the Supreme Court ruling last summer, states don't have to go along with it. Anti-ObamaCare groups have lost the argument with a few other red-state governors, but Kasich isn't just any red-state governor. He's been known as the most aggressive spending hawk this side of Scott Walker and Mitch Daniels. [Politico]

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: kasich; obamacare; romneyagenda; romneycare; romneycare4all; romneycare4ever

1 posted on 02/05/2013 1:35:46 PM PST by Jean S
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To: Jean S
I will be glad when the GOP is just a footnote in a history book. One liberal party is enough.

/johnny

2 posted on 02/05/2013 1:40:58 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Jean S

And that’s why I’m going to Panama this spring.


3 posted on 02/05/2013 1:41:28 PM PST by griswold3 (Big Government does not tolerate rivals.)
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To: Jean S


What difference does it make?"


4 posted on 02/05/2013 1:42:24 PM PST by Diogenesis (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Jean S
"Are conservatives embracing ObamaCare?"

Nope. Liberal RINOs are.

5 posted on 02/05/2013 1:42:41 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Roger that! Am I missing something, what is in the water?


6 posted on 02/05/2013 1:43:22 PM PST by exnavy (Fish or cut bait ...Got ammo, Godspeed!)
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To: Jean S

Obama won Ohio. The unions beat Kasich on the limits on public unions. So Kasich wants to get reelected.


7 posted on 02/05/2013 1:43:44 PM PST by xkaydet65
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To: Jean S
Are conservatives embracing ObamaCare?

Well, let me think ...

NO.

8 posted on 02/05/2013 1:44:13 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("Don't be afraid to see what you see." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: Jean S

No real conservative is helping this Communist scheme. Only spineless wimps.


9 posted on 02/05/2013 1:45:42 PM PST by alstewartfan ("You looked like a still From Cecil B DeMille When I saw you Waiting at my door." Al Stewart)
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To: Jean S

I grew up with John. A nice fella, but if anyone thinks he’s conservative, I have some prime swamp real estate to sell.


10 posted on 02/05/2013 1:45:42 PM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: alstewartfan
I think sometimes we equate Corporate business leaders with conservatism when way too many hold this mantra: Privitize the profits and socialize the expenses.
11 posted on 02/05/2013 1:48:55 PM PST by buckalfa (Tilting at Windmills)
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To: fatnotlazy
I grew up with John. A nice fella, but if anyone thinks he’s conservative, I have some prime swamp real estate to sell.

I remember years back seeing his show twice(not sure what network) Any way, it took only two viewings to see that he was just another unprincipled, dimwitted, blowhard politician.

Extremely few politicians truly have the love of Liberty in their blood and reverence for our Constitution.

12 posted on 02/05/2013 1:52:42 PM PST by sand88
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To: buckalfa
I think sometimes we equate Corporate business leaders with conservatism when way too many hold this mantra: Privitize the profits and socialize the expenses.

You could not be more correct. Crony Capitalism = socialism, or more properly, fascism without the ovens...yet.

I have nothing against anybody working hard, coming up with money making ideas and having billions, but I object to them writing laws to give themselves special immunities - like McDonalds and obamacare- bribing congresscritters into passing them. And why should the American taxpayer bale out insurance companies? There's no reason for a company like The Hartford to still exist.

The Goldman Sachs/government revolving door is as dangerous as letting muslims into the white hut.

13 posted on 02/05/2013 1:57:10 PM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: sand88

The show was called Heartland. It was on Fox in the early 2000s, I think. John also used to sub for Bill O and was interviewed on other Fox programs from time to time.


14 posted on 02/05/2013 1:59:59 PM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: xkaydet65
So much for Kasich. He ultimately wants to keep his power and be re-elected, since obozo is so popular with Ohioans..specially unions.

What about Jan Brewer of Arizona, the Governor of New Mexico and the other two Republican Governors who went over to the dark side? What are their excuses? We should call them and give em’ hell for crossing the Conservative line...in essence they are NOT Conservatives, because they were more concerned in being re-elected/keeping their power,than retaining Conservative principles and standing by them. They are NOT Conservatives...call them up and give them hell. They must hear from We the People.

15 posted on 02/05/2013 2:02:20 PM PST by itssme
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To: griswold3

You think that Panama and other countries don’t have big government programs? LOL.


16 posted on 02/05/2013 2:07:31 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: Jean S

The federal government picking up the tab for health care for the poorest patients was all that was really needed to “fix” healthcare from the beginning - it didn’t take two thousand pages of more government regulation to get it done - the catch is going to come when the feds stop providing funding to the states because they’ve run out of money - I hope Kasich et al have some contingency plans for when that happens - in the near future.....


17 posted on 02/05/2013 2:11:21 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Jean S
I'm so glad our South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley told the Feds to go jump in the lake on this.

Source, third paragraph from the bottom.

18 posted on 02/05/2013 2:12:07 PM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: steve86
"You think that Panama and other countries don’t have big government programs? LOL."

But health care is much cheaper there, and then the argument begins about the quality of the care. Panama is also one of the countries with an expanding medical tourism industry so there are arguments both ways.

19 posted on 02/05/2013 2:20:35 PM PST by Truth29
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To: JRandomFreeper

They are all part of the same party. You have not heard anything from the E-pubs in a long time. The rats that got tossed were the sacrificial lambs back then. They knew that the public would calm down. Now, they all will just make it easier for us. A fix here, a fix there. They know that there is nothing we will do or can do about it! We are dead and we just don”t know it yet.


20 posted on 02/05/2013 2:21:10 PM PST by luv2ndamend (Same party, different letter.)
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To: Jean S

The GOP-e has ALWAYS been in favor of Obamacare; they just didn’t want to be responsible for it, in case there was negative fallout.

But I guarantee they want to administer it. The money and power from such a position is irresistible.


21 posted on 02/05/2013 2:30:45 PM PST by Bratch
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To: Truth29

I agree and was just saying last night I’d have to go to a similar country to afford medical coverage (and Panama’s for ex-pats or tourists, is pretty good quality). But the idea that fleeing to another country is going to get you away from big, intrusive government — that’s ridiculous.


22 posted on 02/05/2013 2:34:11 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: Jean S
Kasich is just doing the Lame-Duck RINO bidding to placate the 47% in Ohio that live off others. Yet another GOP-e lackey, who toes the futile party-line in trying to pander for votes.

It won't work, as if he doesn't actually have a (D) by his name on the ballot, the Fraud and inner-city tribal parasites will multi-vote him out next election, and he has alienated any Conservative support he might have had.

Goodbye, and don't let the door hit you in the ass, John.....

23 posted on 02/05/2013 2:47:54 PM PST by traditional1 (Amerika.....Providing public housing for the Mulatto Messiah)
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To: Jean S; All
Don't believe the liberal media!


24 posted on 02/05/2013 3:48:36 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: steve86

I do not expect much from Panama. I just cannot watch this country deteriorate any longer. Our business is ag and there are many countries that appreciate what you have to offer. The only problem I’m having with these countries is the pace that things get accomplished. Going Mobile.


25 posted on 02/05/2013 5:16:36 PM PST by griswold3 (Big Government does not tolerate rivals.)
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To: fatnotlazy

John is a politician after all.


26 posted on 02/05/2013 5:18:14 PM PST by griswold3 (Big Government does not tolerate rivals.)
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To: steve86

Maybe so....but I can go to plenty of South American countries and get great quality care..for WAY cheaper than here.


27 posted on 02/05/2013 5:21:01 PM PST by Osage Orange (MOLON LAVE)
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To: griswold3

When John and I were kids, we were in the same Sunday School class. When the teacher would call on him, John could never give an answer in 25 words of less. The other kids nicknamed him “Pope.” He had the makings of a politician even back then.


28 posted on 02/05/2013 5:33:38 PM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: griswold3

When John and I were kids, we were in the same Sunday School class. When the teacher would call on him, John could never give an answer in 25 words or less. The other kids nicknamed him “Pope.” He had the makings of a politician even back then.


29 posted on 02/05/2013 5:34:00 PM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: griswold3

I can certainly understand that. Best of luck there. My wife has a close friend in Panama. Funny thing is my wife has always been suspicious that the friend is involved in covert U.S. Intelligence somehow, although she outwardly has a boring federal bureaucrat job.


30 posted on 02/05/2013 9:19:45 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: Osage Orange

Yes, I have heard that many times including from the friend in the prior comment. And they also have real nurses still, not just technicians but real nurses that are concerned with your well being.


31 posted on 02/05/2013 9:21:47 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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