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Is Obama Pushing for a Civil War?
Capitol Hll Outsider ^ | 2/8/2013 | JB Williams

Posted on 02/08/2013 4:50:28 AM PST by IbJensen

Over the last four years, the Obama administration has violated nearly every Article of the US Constitution and every Amendment in the Bill of Rights. They have worked to ignite racial tensions, class warfare, religious confrontations and political divisions far worse than those that led to the first American Civil War.

Over 70% of Americans oppose ObamaCare… so of course, Obama rammed ObamaCare through in an unprecedented misuse of executive power that shut out the entire legitimate legislative process, as spineless Republicans sat quietly on their hands watching it all happen. The people said “no more deficit spending…and no more raising the debt ceiling…” so, Obama ignored the debt ceiling and ran up the federal debt by more than 60% in one term.

The ideological divide in America is not only deeper than ever in history, it is now galvanized. With the leftist gun grab underway, the moment when push comes to shove is fast approaching.

Since his second stolen election, Obama and his Marxist minions are doing all they can to ignite civil disobedience from more than half of the nation’s population. But are the new American Marxists pushing for much more than civil disobedience?

As Obama attempts to disarm law-abiding Citizens despite Second Amendment rights, he is arming known terrorists all over the globe. His mindless minions are insulting more than 70% of Americans and threatening to “kick their asses again” on the basis that most Americans still believe in those dusty old concepts recorded in the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

Lawyers trained not in law or the constitution, but rather in rules of procedure and precedence, by yesterday’s draft-dodgers turned law professors, are telling the American people that the Constitution and Bill of Rights are themselves “unconstitutional.”

Obama wants to control everything down to school lunches, individual medical care, what kind of cars we can drive, who can own a weapon and what kind, attacking cigarette smokers while trying to legalize, regulate and tax marijuana, as his fellow Marxists discuss how to “re-educate” Citizens that just don’t want to go along to get along.

If you hadn’t noticed that you woke up in pre-world war Germany yet, it’s only because your city has not yet experienced Obama’s Urban Warfare Training of the US Military. An Obama Justice Department Memo approves the use of Drone Attacks on US Citizens and reports of Military Officers leaving service because they refused to confirm that they will follow orders to fire on US Citizens are increasing.

If Obama really thinks he is going to seize control of citizens’ private 401ks to pay for his international Marxist movement – he is going to need more than a few lawyers and soldiers to do it. Clearly, Obama thinks that HE is the Supreme Law of this Land.

For more than 230 years, Americans have revered the most fundamental protections of freedom and liberty, their Bible, their Constitution and their guns. Under the Obama administration, this is now the new operative definition of “domestic terrorist.” According to Obama’s DOJ, they now have the right to use Drone attacks on these “terrorists” just like the Drone attacks used to kill terrorists in Pakistan.

This is either the strangest set of anti-American coincidences in human history, or something wicked this way comes… Even Father of American Socialism FDR got it right once…

“As a matter of fact and law, the governing rights of the States are all of those which have not been surrendered to the National Government by the Constitution or its amendments.”

Individually, each of these documented events is highly troublesome in the Land of the once Free and Home of the once Brave. But combined, it all adds up to the Obama administration and their Marxist minions working around the clock to shove America into a second Civil War.

Is there any other way to see it?

As Obama and his international leftist friends drive the nation deeper and deeper into economic insanity, trillions of dollars in public debt that American productivity can never pay, a collapse of our entire economy is imminent. It’s just a matter of what day they decide to stop propping it all up with baseless money printed up in the backroom, no more valuable than monopoly money.

How can a nation hooked on adult cartoons and porn, that now tunes into Comedy Central for the latest “news” possibly combat what is clearly happening here?

I believe that a Civil War is coming alright… but this time, it won’t be North vs. South, East vs. West or even Republican vs. Democrat. It won’t be the 99% average Americans vs. the 1% super-rich either, nor will it be white vs. black or Christian vs. atheist. It won’t be Americans against their own military either.

It will be ALL Americans, including their military, against the Marxist anti-Americans destroying America, which means politicians, their lawyers and their leftist minions in the press. I wouldn’t want to be them when they finally succeed in pushing the nation to internal war.

Politicians, their lawyers and their minions in the press are NOT the kind of people that go to war. They are only the kind of people that order other people to war. When “other folks” refuse orders to go to war on their own citizens, their families, their friends, the people issuing those orders will be standing bare naked on the front lines and nobody will be able to save their sorry asses from the wrath of the American people.

Most Americans have never known anything but freedom and liberty. As a result, they take it all for granted on most days. But when threatened, the redneck nature in every American shows up, and redneck is not a region in the country, it’s a bad attitude towards all who would threaten our freedom.

This land is our land… remember?

This land is your land, this land is my land

From California, to the New York Island

From the redwood forest, to the gulf stream waters

This land was made for you and me

Every State Constitution begins with words very similar to this –

“That all power is inherent in the people, and all free governments are founded on their authority, and instituted for their peace, safety, and happiness; for the advancement of those ends they have at all times, an unalienable and indefeasible right to alter, reform, or abolish the government in such manner as they may think proper.” – Tennessee Constitution

The federal constitution, a compact between the states that creates and governs the federal government (not the people) at all times, begins as follows…

“We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”

The politicians don’t rule the people, as all power is inherent in the people, not their government.

The US Military has not sworn an allegiance to any politician or political agenda. They are sworn to protect and preserve the US Constitution, the Bill of Rights and the people of the United States, against all enemies, foreign and domestic – even those who manage to seize control of the people’s White House and attempt to use the power of the people’s resources, against the people.

If Obama and his Marxist friends want a war in American streets, they are going to get one. Sooner or later, the American people will accept Obama’s many invitations to war.

The American people have nothing to fear but fear itself, because if and when American Marxists push this fight into the streets, the enemies of freedom will find themselves greatly outnumbered and ill-prepared for the people they have so foolishly underestimated.

No sane American wants to see our differences settled this way… But as Democrat John F. Kennedy said so well – “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable.”

Read this as a warning to all who think they will rob American’s of their individual freedoms and liberties. Don’t misinterpret peaceful patience for cowardice or any form of consent. When the people have had enough, they will put down this evil and make an example of those who have forced this fight upon them.

The people have nothing to fear…. But politicians, lawyers and media minions sure do. They had better come to their senses before it’s too late.

The Constitutional Representative Republic will be defended. Any American blood that is shed in defense of the Republic will be on the hands of those who have forced this war upon the people.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: banglist; bhofascism; bloodoftyrants; corruption; criminalpresident; cwii; cwiiping; democrats; donttreadonme; evilobamaregime; govtabuse; guncontrol; obama; phonypresident; secondamendment; sinisterobama; tyranny; waronliberty; whitehutdenizen; youwillnotdisarmus
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To: IbJensen
No, or to refine that, not within his term of office. It's too soon. What he and his administration are doing is testing the limits of the envelope and expanding it where possible. They're not ready for open warfare...yet.

However, if an opportunity presents itself they'll happily roll with it. Look at how suddenly the gun control shrieking started once that opportunity presented itself, and recall the sneering denial that it would be attempted, so very shortly before it began.

Their job - and there are people within and about the administration such as Van Jones and William Ayers who have openly admitted it - is to disarm, destabilize, demoralize, and divide their opponents. That's the strategy, and we've four years of it ahead.

81 posted on 02/08/2013 10:13:05 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: IbJensen

There won’t be any violent revolution, we’re to busy shopping for another flat screen TV, clicking on our iPads, rooting for you know who on Dancing with the Idle!


82 posted on 02/08/2013 10:23:33 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: concerned about politics

Why would the government be buying 30-years worth of small arms ammo? Who are they planning on using those bullets on?


They could be planning mass murder. The are radicals who dislike people who disagree with their rule, hate human life and or they could be conducting gun control by another means. Buy up the supply of ammo so that it is too expensive for Americans to afford.


83 posted on 02/08/2013 10:56:01 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Oberon

Everything depends on how the military and law enforcement reacts at a certain point in his usurpation of the Constitution.

If they back king barrack it will be long and bloody and they lose. If they tell king barrack go to hell it’s over for his power play pretty quick.


84 posted on 02/08/2013 10:56:53 AM PST by sarge83
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To: SaraJohnson

As for your last point - they’d be buying up all calibers and not just .40 hollow point if that were the case.

On a side note, it might be handy to have something that shoots .40, since there will be large stashes of this ammo placed around the country.


85 posted on 02/08/2013 11:01:00 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: alloysteel

“I am sure the Posse Comitatus act of 1878 is still in effect, at least in a technical sense, and could potentially be invoked to prevent the assault on American citizens by the Federal military elements.”

The Posse Comitatus prevents the military from being used to enforce laws within the states.

But it says nothing about “non-military” (i.e., not members of the armed forces, that being Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, or Coast Guard) agents of [ostensibly] civil departments of government doing the same.

Case in point (the most obvious):
Department of Homeland Security.

How does Posse Comitatus apply to them?

Virtually every department and agency of government is being “militarized”. Don’t the food inspectors have their own SWAT teams now?

It may not be the military, per se, that freedom-loving Americans have to worry about.


86 posted on 02/08/2013 11:40:09 AM PST by Road Glide
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To: cuban leaf
I’ve never, EVER, seen such shock at an outcome

As one freeper memorably said, the polls were wrong because they only counted one vote per person.

87 posted on 02/08/2013 11:51:02 AM PST by firebrand
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To: MrB

You scored it as a “LOSS”!!!


88 posted on 02/08/2013 12:00:47 PM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: G Larry

Look, I don’t want to fight with another FReeper on this, but,

the South was seeking Independence,
an the governing authority denied that independence through war,

so, the second time a group of states in America sought independence from the governing authority,

they lost. So, War for Independence 2 - loss.


89 posted on 02/08/2013 12:03:54 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: SaraJohnson

If the government agencies have bought up all this ammo....

Then it is in centralized places where we can break into their armories.

Worked for the Bolsheviks in Czarist Russia.


90 posted on 02/08/2013 1:01:53 PM PST by alloysteel (If conspiracy does not exist everywhere, it exists nowhere.)
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To: alloysteel

Thus my point about having something that eats the calibers they’re buying up.


91 posted on 02/08/2013 1:34:43 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Resolute Conservative

Apparently you failed to realize my first sentence was complete satire and cynicism.

Go back and read the second sentence.


92 posted on 02/08/2013 2:30:54 PM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: MrB

The most important thing we can do is ensure fair voting. IMHO, they stole the 2012 general through voter fraud. We need photo ID cards, AND we need a system like they had in Iraq during their presidential elections: making voters ink their thumbs to make sure of one man, one vote. How bad is that when we need to follow IRAQ’s example?


93 posted on 02/08/2013 2:37:57 PM PST by Ax
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To: BlackJack
Ping.

5.56mm

94 posted on 02/08/2013 2:58:39 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: justice14

I do think the American people will raise hell over this, but I don’t think obama will leave. That would be following the laws of the land. I believe that it will take force to remove him from office. Question is who will be that force.

My overarching belief is that obama believes that he is above the law and he has many enablers including his party and his media.

It will get messy, but folks such as yourself and the rest of us won’t put up that that garbage. We will see just what obama does and if we are willing to take literal bullets to make sure the laws of the land are followed.

Make no mistake, I do not have any doubts in the American People. I have serious doubts in the people who collect their paycheck from the federal govt and/or are loyal to the first historic east african marxist tyrant posing as our president.


95 posted on 02/08/2013 8:40:51 PM PST by Texas resident (I'm not a lawyer, but I play one on FR)
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To: alloysteel
A good place to start would be Artesia, NM.
96 posted on 02/08/2013 10:14:58 PM PST by JGT
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To: txrefugee

The East German model for resistance is preferable. Mass refusal to go to work: no trucks to bring food and fuel to cities, no utilities, no hospitals open etc. etc. No government can survive a mass strike by millions of its suppliers of goods and services.

* * * * *

I agree that this is definitely a preferable first line of attack. Americans aren’t like the French; they’re not *used* to massive strikes, and if enough p!ssed off Americans strike, it will get their attention. At that point the people who aren’t striking will either (a) join the strikers; (b) think they’re crazy but maintain neutrality, or (c) complain bitterly to the powers that be that they had better solve this situation pronto! Any of these outcomes (or all at the same time) are vastly preferable to a shootin’ war.


97 posted on 02/09/2013 12:11:07 AM PST by Hetty_Fauxvert (FUBO, and the useful idiots you rode in on!)
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To: Bushbacker1

Did you post this?


98 posted on 02/09/2013 5:10:05 AM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: Renegade

The problem is today that many, if not all, of the serving generals are of the political persuasion. They are politically correct zombies who owe their stars to the political class.


99 posted on 02/09/2013 5:16:35 AM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: IbJensen

Yes I did.


100 posted on 02/10/2013 5:32:42 AM PST by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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