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Is Obama Pushing for a Civil War?
Capitol Hll Outsider ^ | 2/8/2013 | JB Williams

Posted on 02/08/2013 4:50:28 AM PST by IbJensen

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Obama is going to push this nation to a tipping point where true patriots will begin to use civil diobedience to push back. If he thinks that true patriots will roll over and take his Marxist/Facist agenda, he will be surprised. Even his Chicago thugs have no chance against well-armed rednecks. I also believe that our military will not obey illegal, un-Constitutional orders to fire upon their own citizens, so he will have to call in UN troops. They haven’t seen what rednecks are capable of, either. We are Patriots. We will not lie down and allow the Government to roll over us.

Perhaps Obobo has no intention of leaving office as he’ll just write an Executive Order (which violates Article 1, Section 1)which over rides the 22nd Amendment. As pointed out in the article, he’s willingly violated every provision of the Constitution already at least once.

1 posted on 02/08/2013 4:50:31 AM PST by IbJensen
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To: IbJensen

If anything it should be called Revolutionary War II not Civil War!An inside military takeover would solve a lot of messy problems.


2 posted on 02/08/2013 4:53:48 AM PST by Renegade
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To: IbJensen

I have been saying this for a while.
baraq and his fellow travellers are setting the table for either a terrorist attack or a financial crisis to have a crisis to take advantage of.
They want the chaos so that they can step in and restore order, their version of order. It matters not what threats our country face from outside, his mission is to destroy all internal political enemies.
baraq is a heartless and soulless creep who will do anything. He has shown that he has utter disregard for the rule of law and now that he has a second term and doesn’t have to face the voters again, he is free to carry out his plans.

That is what has become of the formerly democrat party and the formerly free press.


3 posted on 02/08/2013 4:56:02 AM PST by Texas resident (I'm not a lawyer, but I play one on FR)
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To: IbJensen

No I don’t think Obama is planning for any civil war except if it should actually happen, he is boiling the frog.

What he has been instructed to do is to figuratively tenderize the nation into Sharia compliance. Its all about getting America under Islamic control. Because that is the ultimate goal.


4 posted on 02/08/2013 5:00:24 AM PST by Eye of Unk (AR2 2013 is the American Revolution part 2 of 2013)
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To: IbJensen

Just to let you know my tin foil hat is on good and tight:

I believe the most likely thing that happened last november is that the election was, in fact, stolen, with the acquiescence of the R’s. The reason? They knew, as well as those of us here did, that the Obama base would burn the cities if Obama lost, followed by a response by the “clingers” with their guns getting involved.

It would have started it.

That’s my story and I’m stickin’ to it.

Part of this is based on the simple weirdness of the whole thing. I’ve been voting since 1972 and I’ve never, EVER, seen such shock at an outcome as I saw with this one. But that is only part of it.


5 posted on 02/08/2013 5:01:15 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Texas resident

Well said.


6 posted on 02/08/2013 5:05:51 AM PST by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: IbJensen

He’s trying to create conditions to replicate 1917 Russia and the communist takeover there, a “dictatorship of the proletariat.”


7 posted on 02/08/2013 5:08:39 AM PST by izzatzo
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To: IbJensen

communist tactic. Cause civil unrest, destabilizing the civil order, then step in during the confusion and establish a communist regime.


8 posted on 02/08/2013 5:10:43 AM PST by I want the USA back
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To: Renegade

“It will be ALL Americans, including their military, against the Marxist anti-Americans destroying America, which means politicians, their lawyers and their leftist minions in the press. I wouldn’t want to be them when they finally succeed in pushing the nation to internal war.”

I can live with that, our “ruling class” politicians, MSM, etal need to be held accountable, need to be put down bigtime.


9 posted on 02/08/2013 5:15:36 AM PST by izzatzo
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To: Texas resident

There seems to be a particularly strong push for secession of at least part of the territory once known as “the United States of America”. John Edwards said it out loud a few years ago, “There are two Americas”.

And they are pretty well defined. Look at the electoral map of the last election, and see how the “red” Congressional districts and counties divide up as compared to the “blue” districts and cities. This makes an excellent blueprint for what could be an amicible division.

But such a simple divorce probably could not be concluded. For now, the Imperial Washington regime has control of the money supply, the national military units, and most of the air traffic. The various state governments still have nominal control of the state militias (National Guard) and their own state police forces, plus what is in most instances the majority support from within their own states.

Plus, the localities would be well able to raise their own militias, with volunteer “minutemen” ready to take up arms and defend vast tracts of territory from the Federal incursion. I am sure the Posse Comitatus act of 1878 is still in effect, at least in a technical sense, and could potentially be invoked to prevent the assault on American citizens by the Federal military elements.

But considering how the Current Regime is perfectly happy to ignore or break any laws it does not like, or selectively take advantage of, this constraint would not be effective.

So it comes down to a rifle behind every blade of grass, a cannon behind every tree.

A wide swath of Americans LIKE their “cowboy heritage”.


10 posted on 02/08/2013 5:20:21 AM PST by alloysteel (If conspiracy does not exist everywhere, it exists nowhere.)
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To: IbJensen

Sergeantdave’s completely simplistic four steps to a civil war.

1. We divide ourselves.

2. We insult each other.

3. We stage armed excursions against each other.

4. The war starts.

Next week, I’ll publish the four steps to cleaning the kitty litter box and how it can be applied to laying DC under a crushing seige.


11 posted on 02/08/2013 5:27:07 AM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: IbJensen

As they discussed the killing of U.S. citizens by drone attacks, some retired colonel on Fox & Friends this morning made it quite clear that any U.S. citizen who attacked “the United States” is fair game to be killed by the government.
Those who take up arms against the government should fully expect that.

The East German model for resistance is preferable. Mass refusal to go to work: no trucks to bring food and fuel to cities, no utilities, no hospitals open etc. etc. No government can survive a mass strike by millions of its suppliers of goods and services.


12 posted on 02/08/2013 5:30:39 AM PST by txrefugee
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“Is Obama Pushing for a Civil War?”

Is that a rhetorical question?


13 posted on 02/08/2013 5:31:59 AM PST by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: IbJensen

I agree they’re setting up for a fight, too, especially when Obama along with the likes of Ayers have considered the deaths of “millions” to attain their communist goals.


14 posted on 02/08/2013 5:33:34 AM PST by Thorliveshere (Tais deau sá taghdedaul!)
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To: Renegade

Oh, I’d take it further and call it Revoutionary War III.
I - 1776 - win
II - 1863 - loss
III - 201X - tie breaker


15 posted on 02/08/2013 5:35:08 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: SMARTY

He and his fellow travelers want an excuse to use the power of the State to kill “dissenters”.


16 posted on 02/08/2013 5:36:00 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Renegade

Not a civil war, there is no defined division of states or territory. This is more of a 2nd revolution situation and I believe that we are moving toward a 1776 moment.

FUBO & FAD


17 posted on 02/08/2013 5:39:29 AM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Eye of Unk

Read the rest of these replies. Consensus, Obama is a Communist. What he preaches is straight out of Karl Marx. He sympathizes with Muslims and takes their side in many, although not all, disputes. That’s not the same thing as being a Muslim and embracing Sharia. Mark Levin calls him a Statist. He is for the federal leviathan getting control of every aspect of your life, with him and his Marxist buds like Axelrod and Jarrett manipulating our puppet strings.


18 posted on 02/08/2013 5:40:43 AM PST by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear..."(Glenn Beck))
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To: IbJensen

I think he wants us to fear opposing his will, therefore we must.


19 posted on 02/08/2013 5:47:46 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: IbJensen

As Obama’s second term winds down we will seem a movement led by the media to rid the Constitution of the “silly” ideas that Barack should not have a third term.

Wait and see.


20 posted on 02/08/2013 5:47:55 AM PST by kjo (+)
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