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Is Obama Pushing for a Civil War?
Capitol Hll Outsider ^ | 2/8/2013 | JB Williams

Posted on 02/08/2013 4:50:28 AM PST by IbJensen

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To: IbJensen
No, or to refine that, not within his term of office. It's too soon. What he and his administration are doing is testing the limits of the envelope and expanding it where possible. They're not ready for open warfare...yet.

However, if an opportunity presents itself they'll happily roll with it. Look at how suddenly the gun control shrieking started once that opportunity presented itself, and recall the sneering denial that it would be attempted, so very shortly before it began.

Their job - and there are people within and about the administration such as Van Jones and William Ayers who have openly admitted it - is to disarm, destabilize, demoralize, and divide their opponents. That's the strategy, and we've four years of it ahead.

81 posted on 02/08/2013 10:13:05 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: IbJensen

There won’t be any violent revolution, we’re to busy shopping for another flat screen TV, clicking on our iPads, rooting for you know who on Dancing with the Idle!


82 posted on 02/08/2013 10:23:33 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: concerned about politics

Why would the government be buying 30-years worth of small arms ammo? Who are they planning on using those bullets on?


They could be planning mass murder. The are radicals who dislike people who disagree with their rule, hate human life and or they could be conducting gun control by another means. Buy up the supply of ammo so that it is too expensive for Americans to afford.


83 posted on 02/08/2013 10:56:01 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Oberon

Everything depends on how the military and law enforcement reacts at a certain point in his usurpation of the Constitution.

If they back king barrack it will be long and bloody and they lose. If they tell king barrack go to hell it’s over for his power play pretty quick.


84 posted on 02/08/2013 10:56:53 AM PST by sarge83
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To: SaraJohnson

As for your last point - they’d be buying up all calibers and not just .40 hollow point if that were the case.

On a side note, it might be handy to have something that shoots .40, since there will be large stashes of this ammo placed around the country.


85 posted on 02/08/2013 11:01:00 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: alloysteel

“I am sure the Posse Comitatus act of 1878 is still in effect, at least in a technical sense, and could potentially be invoked to prevent the assault on American citizens by the Federal military elements.”

The Posse Comitatus prevents the military from being used to enforce laws within the states.

But it says nothing about “non-military” (i.e., not members of the armed forces, that being Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, or Coast Guard) agents of [ostensibly] civil departments of government doing the same.

Case in point (the most obvious):
Department of Homeland Security.

How does Posse Comitatus apply to them?

Virtually every department and agency of government is being “militarized”. Don’t the food inspectors have their own SWAT teams now?

It may not be the military, per se, that freedom-loving Americans have to worry about.


86 posted on 02/08/2013 11:40:09 AM PST by Road Glide
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To: cuban leaf
I’ve never, EVER, seen such shock at an outcome

As one freeper memorably said, the polls were wrong because they only counted one vote per person.

87 posted on 02/08/2013 11:51:02 AM PST by firebrand
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To: MrB

You scored it as a “LOSS”!!!


88 posted on 02/08/2013 12:00:47 PM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: G Larry

Look, I don’t want to fight with another FReeper on this, but,

the South was seeking Independence,
an the governing authority denied that independence through war,

so, the second time a group of states in America sought independence from the governing authority,

they lost. So, War for Independence 2 - loss.


89 posted on 02/08/2013 12:03:54 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: SaraJohnson

If the government agencies have bought up all this ammo....

Then it is in centralized places where we can break into their armories.

Worked for the Bolsheviks in Czarist Russia.


90 posted on 02/08/2013 1:01:53 PM PST by alloysteel (If conspiracy does not exist everywhere, it exists nowhere.)
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To: alloysteel

Thus my point about having something that eats the calibers they’re buying up.


91 posted on 02/08/2013 1:34:43 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Resolute Conservative

Apparently you failed to realize my first sentence was complete satire and cynicism.

Go back and read the second sentence.


92 posted on 02/08/2013 2:30:54 PM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: MrB

The most important thing we can do is ensure fair voting. IMHO, they stole the 2012 general through voter fraud. We need photo ID cards, AND we need a system like they had in Iraq during their presidential elections: making voters ink their thumbs to make sure of one man, one vote. How bad is that when we need to follow IRAQ’s example?


93 posted on 02/08/2013 2:37:57 PM PST by Ax
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To: BlackJack
Ping.

5.56mm

94 posted on 02/08/2013 2:58:39 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: justice14

I do think the American people will raise hell over this, but I don’t think obama will leave. That would be following the laws of the land. I believe that it will take force to remove him from office. Question is who will be that force.

My overarching belief is that obama believes that he is above the law and he has many enablers including his party and his media.

It will get messy, but folks such as yourself and the rest of us won’t put up that that garbage. We will see just what obama does and if we are willing to take literal bullets to make sure the laws of the land are followed.

Make no mistake, I do not have any doubts in the American People. I have serious doubts in the people who collect their paycheck from the federal govt and/or are loyal to the first historic east african marxist tyrant posing as our president.


95 posted on 02/08/2013 8:40:51 PM PST by Texas resident (I'm not a lawyer, but I play one on FR)
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To: alloysteel
A good place to start would be Artesia, NM.
96 posted on 02/08/2013 10:14:58 PM PST by JGT
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To: txrefugee

The East German model for resistance is preferable. Mass refusal to go to work: no trucks to bring food and fuel to cities, no utilities, no hospitals open etc. etc. No government can survive a mass strike by millions of its suppliers of goods and services.

* * * * *

I agree that this is definitely a preferable first line of attack. Americans aren’t like the French; they’re not *used* to massive strikes, and if enough p!ssed off Americans strike, it will get their attention. At that point the people who aren’t striking will either (a) join the strikers; (b) think they’re crazy but maintain neutrality, or (c) complain bitterly to the powers that be that they had better solve this situation pronto! Any of these outcomes (or all at the same time) are vastly preferable to a shootin’ war.


97 posted on 02/09/2013 12:11:07 AM PST by Hetty_Fauxvert (FUBO, and the useful idiots you rode in on!)
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To: Bushbacker1

Did you post this?


98 posted on 02/09/2013 5:10:05 AM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: Renegade

The problem is today that many, if not all, of the serving generals are of the political persuasion. They are politically correct zombies who owe their stars to the political class.


99 posted on 02/09/2013 5:16:35 AM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: IbJensen

Yes I did.


100 posted on 02/10/2013 5:32:42 AM PST by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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