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Police Appeared To Shout 'Burn This Mother' Down Before Fire Engulfed Rogue Ex-Cop's Cabin
Business Insider Military & Defense ^ | 13 Feb 13 | Paul Szoldra

Posted on 02/13/2013 3:00:36 PM PST by Repeat Offender

A six-day California manhunt ended Tuesday with rogue ex-cop Christopher Dorner apparently dying in a cabin fire on Bear Mountain.

One of many big questions to be answered is how the deadly fire was started.

Multiple unconfirmed audio clips appear to show police officers talking about burning down the cabin in which the alleged cop-killer was hiding.

Deliberately starting a fire, rather than waiting out the suspect, could be seen as an extreme measure.

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In an unconfirmed video showing live footage from KCAL9 Los Angeles, officers are apparently caught in the background around the 20 second mark saying, "burn that f------ house down." It continues:

[Inaudible]

"Burn him out!"

"Get to him right now, f------ burn this motherf-----!"

Another unconfirmed video posted to YouTube of television coverage from CBS 2 captures officers apparently saying, "burn it down, burn it down ... get the gas." Another officer says, "yeah, burn it down." The exchange happens around the 1:24 mark:

The Guardian reports that journalist Max Blumenthal was listening to the police scanners, and live-tweeting the event.

On the scanners, Blumenthal reports hearing an exchange where the police talk about using "burners." The Daily Caller is reporting that is police slang for tear gas.

"All right, Steve, we're gonna go, we're gonna go forward with the plan, with the burner."

"Copy," is the response.

"We want it, like we talked about."

"Seven burners deployed and we have a fire," says the first voice.

"Copy. Seven burners deployed and we have a fire," responds a female voice.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: California
KEYWORDS: dorner; lapd
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To: Repeat Offender

I was just thinking that so long as the police are in the Human Barbecue business now, they ought to be properly outfitted.

(Do I need the < /sarc > tag this time? ;-) )


121 posted on 02/13/2013 5:04:11 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Of the government, by the government, and for the government.)
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To: Repeat Offender

I was just thinking that so long as the police are in the Human Barbecue business now, they ought to be properly outfitted.

(Do I need the < /sarc > tag this time? ;-) )


122 posted on 02/13/2013 5:04:30 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Of the government, by the government, and for the government.)
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To: dennisw

Dna evidence was settled before they burned him.


123 posted on 02/13/2013 5:04:30 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: VRWCarea51

That was LAPD and rogue cops subsequently put on leave, and they had nothing to do with this. This was a SB operation


124 posted on 02/13/2013 5:04:35 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: driftdiver

When Wackos get fired, it is never the charge used, because that would be disputed by leftwing psychologist and leftwing laws would give them disability for the rest of their life.


125 posted on 02/13/2013 5:04:45 PM PST by drpix
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To: driftdiver

I hate living in a police state as well, and I say that after having worn a badge for 23 years. My point regarding methods of killing a suspect was only that if it is truly necessary, than the method no longer matters. In this case I think my old agency would most likely have surrounded the cabin and waited out the suspect, regardless of how long it took. But that isn’t necessarily the only valid method of dealing with this particular suspect. The media focused on his threats against the police, and pretty much glossed over his first 2 murders, which were a lovely young, innocent woman and her fiance. There was nothing valiant about that, and as the father of 3 lovely young women, I have no problem with the way in which this coward met his end. Situational ethics? Of course. But I defy anyone to defend anything this guy did, morally or legally.


126 posted on 02/13/2013 5:06:08 PM PST by cbvanb
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To: drpix

LOL

I was born free. I was raised free. I live free. And I will die free.


127 posted on 02/13/2013 5:08:14 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: drpix

Exactly so how many other wackos are still on the job and how many innocent old ladies have they shot?

And if someone defended themselves against the wacko cops you’d still celebrate other cops burning that person alive without a trial.

Now do you get it?


128 posted on 02/13/2013 5:08:49 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: cbvanb
It could just as likely have been suicide by cop. My attitude about Dorner is “play stupid games, win stupid prizes”.

My thinking too. He fought the law and (unsurprisingly) the law won. But at a cost because he killed and injured police and sheriffs and killed other innocent people. Maybe his charred brain will be donated to science

129 posted on 02/13/2013 5:09:11 PM PST by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing --- Joe Pine)
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To: Uncle Chip

They are ALL cops. They were ALL looking to “get” Dorner.
Wanna bet the radio traffic during that shooting is filled with the same tone- language?


130 posted on 02/13/2013 5:09:15 PM PST by VRWCarea51
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To: cbvanb
I understand your revulsion, but in point of fact the law does not make a distinction between types of deadly force.

Not sure what law you are referring to. Certainly the means used to kill someone on death row matters. They no longer electrocute and they certainly do not burn them alive.

131 posted on 02/13/2013 5:09:34 PM PST by plain talk
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To: cbvanb

Its not about defending his actions. Its about not wanting to live in a country where the cops can shoot anyone they want without fear.


132 posted on 02/13/2013 5:11:03 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron; RummyChick
Two of the most sensible posts on the thread and we've got over 100 posts before you point them out.

What's wrong with this picture?

As far as burning out a confirmed criminal, they did that back in the days of John Wilkes Booth and he only had one confirmed kill at the time.

What bothers me is that it is more than 224 hours after the incident and they still have no confirmation it was the perp!

It shouldn't take that long even with crispy remains. They can't be that crispy or his driver's license wouldn't have survived. Beyond dental records, there is also DNA evidence which he must have left from the navy and the LAPD.

Gordon Kahl died in a similar incident in 1983 in Arkansas which also included a burnt down structure and charred remains. However, they had a positive identification almost immediately with technology 30 years older.

133 posted on 02/13/2013 5:13:17 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: driftdiver

Barf. Those cops engaged and killed a rabid dog. Can’t pay them enough for their bravery.


134 posted on 02/13/2013 5:15:57 PM PST by Broker (SIG357)
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What bothers me is that it is more than 224 hours after the incident . . .

Please forgive the typo. I looked up the Gordon Kahl shootout at Medina, North Dakota and found out it happened exactly 30 years ago yesterday . . . while Kahl himself escaped to Arkansas, laid low and lived four more months.

135 posted on 02/13/2013 5:18:50 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Yep. I guess that whole “Innocent until proven guilty” thing is getting tossed out with the Constitution.


136 posted on 02/13/2013 5:19:08 PM PST by Politicalmom (Liberalism. Ideas so great they have to be mandatory.-FReeper Osage Orange)
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To: Broker

Very brave indeed, 2000 cops to get 1 guy


137 posted on 02/13/2013 5:19:14 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: drpix
I'll repeat, what executions have those being executed armed and shooting at the executioner?

It's not an "execution" without due process, cop sucker.

138 posted on 02/13/2013 5:19:36 PM PST by papertyger
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To: Repeat Offender

Heh, heh LAPD Insurance....I’m not a big fan of the swatted up cops but I think I’d been saying the same thing if I was outside the cabin where the black racist murderer was holes.


139 posted on 02/13/2013 5:20:31 PM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: eddie willers
Like you, I'm getting damned tired of the anti-police faction on FR.

And we're getting damned tired of crypto-fascist cop-suckers pretending to be "rule of law" conservatives.

140 posted on 02/13/2013 5:23:44 PM PST by papertyger
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