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Rand Paul: GOP must 'evolve' on immigration
www.politico.com ^ | 01/13/2013 | Kevin Cirilli

Posted on 03/12/2013 9:17:28 AM PDT by SoConPubbie

Rand Paul (R-Ky.) said Wednesday that Republicans must “evolve” on immigration while preventing America from becoming a magnet for immigrants to come and get benefits.

We cannot just be a beacon for everyone to come here on benefits,” Paul said on conservative commentator Bryan Fischer’s radio program Wednesday. “You can’t have open borders in a welfare state. We’ve got a pretty significant welfare state, so it’s not just about normalizing the 11 or 12 million here, it’s whether or not while you’re doing that another 11 or 12 million come in, and I think that will bankrupt the country,” Paul said.

"My proposal is that each year we vote on a report [on border security]… so each year if we’re going to normalize some of the people who are undocumented here, it is dependent on a vote on the border security that affirms that we are securing the border.”

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: 113th; aliens; amnesty; illegals; immigration; paul; randpaul; rino
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1 posted on 03/12/2013 9:17:28 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie

How ‘bout closing the damn gate first, huh Rand?


2 posted on 03/12/2013 9:19:06 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: TexasCajun

It’s POLITICO!!!


3 posted on 03/12/2013 9:19:55 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: SoConPubbie
It's not rocket surgery, Rand.

Stop giving them free sh*t and they'll go home.

4 posted on 03/12/2013 9:20:46 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: SoConPubbie

NO! Illegal is ILLEGAL!! Simply cut off their jobs by fining the employer and quit with the benefits and they’ll go back to where they came. Cut this sh&& about how “difficult it is to round ‘em up”!


5 posted on 03/12/2013 9:21:09 AM PDT by albie (re)
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To: US Navy Vet
Marco Rubio is on the amnesty bandwagon too.

I'm afraid amnesty is going to get rammed down our throats.

You know, to win favor with the illegal immigrant vote.

6 posted on 03/12/2013 9:23:20 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: SoConPubbie

This is where I part company with Rand. I prefer Mike Lee or Ted Cruz for this reason, though Rand is hard to beat on the size of government.


7 posted on 03/12/2013 9:23:30 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: SoConPubbie
There goes the media again...trying to confuse Illegal Immigration (Wetbacks) with Legal Immigration (Green Card Holders)

Need to come up with better "Official" names to distingush between IL-Legal "immigrants" and Legal immigrants.

That way even the low information voter will know the difference.

8 posted on 03/12/2013 9:24:45 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Soon the "invisible hand" will press the economic "reset" button.)
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To: TexasCajun

“Marco Rubio” has ALWAYS been a FRAUD and a GOP-e SQUISH. You cannot trust ANY politican from Florida.


9 posted on 03/12/2013 9:26:25 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: SoConPubbie

Auction off citizenship. (Background checks required.)

That way we get smart, hard-working, entrepreneurial, conservative, wealthy people.

If we held a Dutch Auction each year for 10,000 citizens, I’ll bet we could get $1M each. That’s $10B of deficit reduction from abroad before they start paying taxes, opening businesses, hiring Americans and spending their money.

The WSJ suggested this a week or two ago, about a decade after I regularly recommended it here on FR.


10 posted on 03/12/2013 9:27:07 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Due Process 2013: "Burn the M*****-F***er Down!")
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To: SharpRightTurn

Same here and even then he stands head and shoulders over the cowards who are desperately trying to destroy him.


11 posted on 03/12/2013 9:27:20 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: SoConPubbie

I don’t know why this is so difficult. Immigration laws should serve the interests of citizens.

Citizens should have a say in how many people are allowed to immigrate each year, and what kinds of people, and from where, because these are people who we are agreeing will share our sovereignty with us. We are agreeing that, a few years down the road, they will have an equal say in everything we do.

Immigration law should not be used to manipulate demographic patterns, or voting patterns, or labor costs. When that becomes its purpose we’ve lost the plot.

People who are not citizens do not have an automatic God-given right to be here. If our forefathers fought for independence its because we chose to be separate and to mark out our own course. We have always been open to immigration but there should be nothing automatic about that. For sure, when real unemployment is nearing 20% and you have millions out of work including millions they don’t even bother to count anymore they’ve been unemployed so long, immigration should be very limited.


12 posted on 03/12/2013 9:28:37 AM PDT by marron
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To: SharpRightTurn

This is part of the pollution of libertarianism into conservatism.

There are very valid reasons for preserving culture and tradition, and libertarians rarely see the dangers of cultural corruption and destruction.


13 posted on 03/12/2013 9:28:53 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“You can’t have open borders in a welfare state.”

Sounds like Milton Friedman.


14 posted on 03/12/2013 9:29:12 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: SoConPubbie

So Saint Paul ain’t all THAT, hmm?
So does “evolve” mean asking for a pivet hedge on the border instead of a 100,000 volt electrified, razor serpentine, poisoned, alligator-filled moat barrier?
The whoosification of America....


15 posted on 03/12/2013 9:29:28 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: SoConPubbie

So Saint Paul ain’t all THAT, hmm?
So does “evolve” mean asking for a pivet hedge on the border instead of a 100,000 volt electrified, razor serpentine, poisoned, alligator-filled moat barrier?
The whoosification of America....


16 posted on 03/12/2013 9:30:04 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: marron

There should be some “assimilation index”.

If the immigrants are assimilating, let them in.
When they start balkanizing and not assimilating to our culture, then slow the influx down for a few years.

This idea really ticks off libs and liberts. For reasons I’ll keep to myself, Western culture has no value to them.


17 posted on 03/12/2013 9:30:51 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: SoConPubbie

We don’t have a major problem with immigration.

We have a problem with illegal immigration caused by the failure of the federal government to enforce the law of the land.

The federal government seems to spend 98% of it’s energy and discretionary funds doing many things that are not part of its constitutional duties.

At the same time it ignores or does a poor job of carrying out its few constitutional duties.


18 posted on 03/12/2013 9:33:11 AM PDT by Iron Munro (I miss America, don't you?)
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To: BillyBoy; AuntB; Tennessee Nana; La Lydia
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Rand Paul (R-Ky.) said Wednesday that Republicans must “evolve” on immigration while preventing America from becoming a magnet for immigrants to come and get benefits.
We cannot just be a beacon for everyone to come here on benefits,” Paul said on conservative commentator Bryan Fischer’s radio program Wednesday. “You can’t have open borders in a welfare state. We’ve got a pretty significant welfare state, so it’s not just about normalizing the 11 or 12 million here, it’s whether or not while you’re doing that another 11 or 12 million come in, and I think that will bankrupt the country,” Paul said.

19 posted on 03/12/2013 9:34:05 AM PDT by sickoflibs (O's sequester Apocalypse tour just proved why we need the 2nd amendment more than ever NOW!)
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To: SoConPubbie
Oh yeah, gotta have a little controversy over Paul.
GOPe just cannot have him getting too uppity.

Anyone here that does not know Rand Paul's stance on immigration by now is probably too stupid to even vote.
It has not changed a bit since the first time I heard him and is very little different from his father's.

20 posted on 03/12/2013 9:34:22 AM PDT by Tupelo (Old, Bald, Ugly, Fat and Broke in Arizona)
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