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BIG BROTHER IS BRIBING SNITCHES (Andrew Cuomo)
boblonsberry.com ^ | 03/21/13 | Bob Lonsberry

Posted on 03/21/2013 6:18:48 AM PDT by shortstop

Andy is fighting back.

As tens of thousands of New Yorkers have declared they will not comply with his massive gun ban, he has decided to play hardball.

I’m talking about Andrew Cuomo, the governor of New York. At the first of the year, he rammed through a toughest-in-the-nation gun ban that criminalizes tens of thousands of law-abiding New Yorkers.

Guns and magazines they’ve owned for years suddenly became illegal, and a massive registration scheme was foisted upon them. Upset and resistance were widespread and immediate.

And a couple of weeks ago, a few thousand salt-of-the-earth New Yorkers gathered on the grounds of the state Capitol and shouted that they would not comply.

Like Rosa Parks and Martin Luther King Jr., they pledged civil disobedience to an unjust and immoral law. They chose obedience to Constitution over subjection to its perversion.

Across upstate, a handful of sheriffs – whose association had denounced the law – said that they would not enforce it.

That showed the governor he had a problem.

Most elected officials would have dealt with that with outreach, by trying to make peace, by at least giving his opponents a fair hearing.

But Andrew Cuomo isn’t most elected officials.

He is a special breed of cat.

So he’s offering a reward.

Specifically, his administration is offering a $500 reward to anyone who gives police a tip that leads to someone’s arrest for possessing an illegal gun.

He criminalizes law-abiding citizens, they resist his efforts, he hires their neighbors to turn them in.

For years, thugs and drug dealers have been gunning people down on the streets. For years, rampant urban violence has been a cancer in New York’s cities.

And there was no reward.

No $500 to induce one thug to turn another in.

But there’s a new gun law, and this new initiative, and anyone who dares resist the governor’s dictate needs to fear everyone around him.

Here’s how it works.

A toll-free number has been established. State troopers will answer it around the clock. People will call, anonymously, and report folks who have an illegal gun.

Like your turkey shotgun with the newly outlawed thumb-hole stock, or the high-capacity magazine that came with your pistol when you bought it in Pennsylvania.

The troopers will pass that tip to the law-enforcement agency in the community where the alleged gun owner lives. The state will later contact that agency to see how worthwhile the tip was. At the end of the investigation, the state will expect a report from the agency on how it went.

I think that’s meant to make sure the local agency doesn’t blow off the tip.

If there is an arrest, the state will pay $500 to the person who gave the tip.

I’m not sure where the Fourth Amendment fits in all this. Apparently, uncorroborated anonymous tips are going to be considered probable cause to make someone the subject of a state-monitored police investigation. That would presumably include some sort of search warrant. How can you find out, for example, if someone has an illegal gun without going through their property and possessions?

Sounds like a great way to screw with somebody.

Sounds like a great way to shred the Constitution.

Sounds like a great way to turn people against one another and to turn every busybody or disaffected brother-in-law into a narc.

But Andy is that serious about guns, and the people who own them.

Apparently, a lot more serious than he is about rape, murder and child molesting.

Because I don’t find any reference anywhere to a New York state program where you are offered a reward for turning in rapists, killers or pedophiles.

Rape and murder a child, and the state does not offer a reward for your arrest. Have a shotgun with a collapsible stock – like those sold all across America – and there’s $500 on your head.

It seems like the state is more interested in suppressing your freedom than it is in protecting victims’ lives. It seems like New York doesn’t want to catch criminals, it wants to catch grampas.

And it is willing to pay snitches to do it.

Just like Big Brother.

And Hitler and Stalin.

Turn the people against one another, make sycophants the servile tattletales of an angry and powerful state.

And pay people to spy on one another.

That’s Andrew Cuomo’s America.


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KEYWORDS: banglist; cuomo; guncontrol; newyork; secondamendment
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LINK:
http://www.nyfirearms.com/forums/laws-politics/49683-tip-line-encourage-residents-report-illegal-firearm-possession.html

TITLE:
Tip line to encourage residents to report illegal firearm possession.

BODY OF FORUM THREAD:
Just received this from the NYSRPA (makes me want to vomit) :

Ladies and Gentlemen,
The letter shown below is from DCJS but was distributed by a Law Enforcement Association to all it’s members. I’ve removed the Association’s information to protect our source but wanted to show you the depths to which we are falling. Orwell was right; just 29 off years on the date!
Tom King

The Letter

At a time when all of us are finding ourselves doing more with less, a reminder about a resource available from New York State that can assist you in your efforts to solve cases, prevent crime and better serve and protect your communities.

The state has established a toll-free tip line – 1-855-GUNSNYS (1-855- 486-7697) to encourage residents to report illegal firearm possession. The tip line also allows for information to be submitted via text – individuals can text GUNTIP and their message to CRIMES (274637). While the state will provide the administrative support and fund the rewards, the investigation and validity of the tip will be up to each local department.

To spread the word about this free resource, New York State is planning a comprehensive campaign, including public service announcements that will air on television and radio stations across Upstate.

The tip line can provide your agencies with another avenue for receiving intelligence about crimes being committed in your jurisdictions. This initiative is designed for communities where no tip lines are in place and is not meant to replace existing gun tip lines.

Here’s how the tip line operates:

The New York State Police staff the tip line 24 hours a day. Upon receiving a call, troopers will solicit as much information as possible regarding a firearm tip, while allowing the individual to remain anonymous. The caller will be informed that this program is not the traditional gun buyback program but rather is focused on identifying individuals who are carrying an illegal firearm.

The State Police will in turn contact the appropriate police agency with the lead to initiate an investigation. Staff from the Division of Criminal Justice Services (DCJS) will follow up with that agency to determine the validity of the lead. Once the investigation is completed, the police agency would convey to DCJS the outcome of the investigation.

If the information leads to an arrest for the illegal possession of a firearm, the “tipster” will be awarded $500. DCJS staff will handle all of the financial transactions.

State Police staff will explain the program in its entirety upon notifying an agency that a lead has been generated for their jurisdiction. If you have any questions in the interim, please contact DCJS Deputy Commissioner Tony Perez in the Office of Public Safety at 518-485-7610.

Janine Kava
Director of Public Information
New York State Division of Criminal Justice Services
(518) 457-8906 - work
(518) 485-7715 - fax


41 posted on 03/21/2013 9:01:43 AM PDT by deks ("...the battle...liberty against the overreach of the federal government" Ken Cuccinelli)
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To: deks

http://www.cbs6albany.com/news/features/top-story/stories/state-500-reward-turning-illegal-gun-owners-7024.shtml

State: $500 reward for turning in illegal gun

ALBANY – A program aimed at rewarding people who blow the whistle on illegal gun owners has yet to show significant results, says three police agencies in the New York.

In February of 2012, 11 months before the passage of the NY SAFE Act, Governor Cuomo’s office announced a four pronged initiative to curb gun violence. One of the programs was a cash reward for citizens who lead police to the arrest and confiscation of illegal fire arms.

Known as the “Gun Tip Line”, New Yorkers can call a toll free hotline to alert police if they believe someone they know has an illegal gun.

The call would be picked up by state police and local law enforcement would be notified if the tip seemed reliable. If there was an arrest the tipster would receive as much as $500.


42 posted on 03/21/2013 9:09:30 AM PDT by deks ("...the battle...liberty against the overreach of the federal government" Ken Cuccinelli)
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To: LouAvul
. “But officer, it sure looked like a gun.”

You an IU student??

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/03/19/alert-issued-at-indiana-university-purdue-after-reports-man-with-gun-on-campus/

43 posted on 03/21/2013 9:48:04 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: HomeAtLast
When do we stop blaming the politicians and start looking at the enablers voters?
44 posted on 03/21/2013 9:48:50 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ZULU
Have we ever pursued this argument in the courts?

Have we NEEDED to??

Have we ever pursued this argument in the STREETS?

45 posted on 03/21/2013 9:51:29 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: dfwgator

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V92OBNsQgxU


46 posted on 03/21/2013 9:55:34 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: shortstop

From Village Voice, August 2008:

ANDREW CUOMO AND FREDDIE AND FANNIE:
. . .How the youngest Housing and Urban Development secretary in history gave birth to the mortgage crisis

http://www.villagevoice.com/2008-08-05/news/how-andrew-cuomo-gave-birth-to-the-crisis-at-fannie-mae-and-freddie-mac/full/


47 posted on 03/21/2013 9:56:59 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Elsie

Well, Elsie, it isn’t the voting that gives them the power, that just gives them the position.
The tax revenue gives them the power.
That’s what I mean by enabling.


48 posted on 03/21/2013 10:00:06 AM PDT by HomeAtLast ( You're either with the Tea Party, or you're with the EBT Party.)
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To: shortstop
So Imperator Cuomo wants to turn, up till now law abiding gun owners, into gun jews.

It reminds me of the scene in Defiance when the local police show up at the farmers place looking for Jews and brag about how much money they get for turning them into the SS.

49 posted on 03/21/2013 10:37:44 AM PDT by Polynikes (Hakkaa Palle)
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To: leprechaun9
“How does an anonymous phone caller receive his pieces of silver?”

The callers number is probably automatically logged and/or a case number is issued to the caller as a receipt in case the tip pans out

50 posted on 03/21/2013 10:41:55 AM PDT by Polynikes (Hakkaa Palle)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Not illegal aliens but Democratic party leaders in the cities & county levels. TV talking heads & newspaper editors. Make them the target of the state and see how they like it.


51 posted on 03/21/2013 1:08:37 PM PDT by Nebr FAL owner
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To: Nebr FAL owner

Call CPS on them, too.


52 posted on 03/21/2013 1:12:59 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: shortstop

I hope millions of people find out the names of Cuomo’s body guards then call the number and report Andy’s cops have guns.


53 posted on 03/21/2013 1:24:54 PM PDT by Terry Mross (This country will fail to exist in my lifetime. And I'm gettin' up there in age.)
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To: HomeAtLast

AHhhh...


54 posted on 03/21/2013 2:45:08 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: leprechaun9

He doesn’t, the object is to annoy the police and the target.


55 posted on 03/21/2013 6:52:55 PM PDT by Steve0113 (I miss having a president who loves this country.)
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