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Senate Gang of Eight: Immigration Is "Ours To Lose"
ABC ^ | April 18, 2013 | Jordan Fabian

Posted on 04/18/2013 4:40:39 PM PDT by AuntB

The Senate's bipartisan "Gang of Eight" oozed confidence on Thursday that they could deliver on their promise to pass the most significant immigration bill in a generation.

Organizers gathered over 20 leaders from business, labor, religious and civil rights groups in order to display broad support for their plan. In an unlikely pairing, renowned anti-tax activist Grover Norquist stood alongside AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka, the leader of the nation's largest labor coalition. Senators from both parties yukked it up with jokes throughout the hour-long affair.

"We'll oppose only those amendments that are intended to prevent a comprehensive solution from passing," said Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.)...

Graham threw down an ultimatum against opponents of the bill in both parties....

On Thursday, Rubio cajoled conservatives to get on board with the bill.

McCain said that the bill is the critical first move in a long process for the Republican Party to repair its broken image among Latino voters.

After the conference ended, Norquist predicted the Gang of Eight would succeed, arguing that opponents like Sessions and Vitter, who sunk the last immigration bill in 2007, have been marginalized.

Restrictionists, Norquist said, are people who merely "think of themselves as conservatives."

"If you're a Republican, you look at the business community wants it, the religious community wants it," he told reporters. "Who is the opposition? Who in the modern Reagan Republican Party is a no?"

While Congress has proved itself incapable recently of dealing with major pieces of legislation, the senators predicted this time would be different.

"I am convinced this issue will not fall victim to the usual partisan gridlock," Schumer said. "This bipartisan breakthrough offers a degree of hope."

(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnestia; amnesty; apaulogists; byebyeusa; carteldeocho; graham; grovernorquist; immigration; laraza; mccain; norquist; paulestinians; paulistinians; paultards; rubio; seiu; soldoutgop; unions; wot
"In an unlikely pairing, renowned anti-tax activist Grover Norquist stood alongside AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka, the leader of the nation's largest labor coalition. Senators from both parties yukked it up with jokes throughout the hour-long affair.

After the conference ended, Norquist predicted the Gang of Eight would succeed, arguing that opponents like Sessions and Vitter, who sunk the last immigration bill in 2007, have been marginalized.

Restrictionists, Norquist said, are people who merely "think of themselves as conservatives."

"If you're a Republican, you look at the business community wants it, the religious community wants it," he told reporters. "Who is the opposition? Who in the modern Reagan Republican Party is a no?"

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WHO does the gang of 8 want to please???? WHO do they showcase??? GROVER NORQUIST and the UNIONS! SO he and Cesar Conda can insult us some more!!

So, how do you like being 'marginalized'???


1 posted on 04/18/2013 4:40:39 PM PDT by AuntB
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To: HiJinx; SandRat; Pelham; Travis McGee; wardaddy; Tennessee Nana; Liz; All

Gang of 8 brings Norquist, Trumka together
http://dailycaller.com/2013/04/18/gang-of-8-brings-norquist-trumka-together/

3:58 PM 04/18/2013

WASHINGTON — The supporters of immigration reform who flanked the bipartisan Gang of Eight as they offered their immigration plan made for strange bedfellows, pairing the some of the loudest conservative activists with some of the most liberal.

AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka was present, and he stood next to none other than Grover Norquist, president of Americans for Tax Reform.

Also present was Neera Tanden, present of the liberal Center for American Progress, along with Eliseo Medina, secretary-treasurer of the SEIU.

On the opposite side of the aisle, but behind the same podium, was US Chamber of Commerce executive Vice President for government affairs, Bruce Josten.

Sen. John McCain, one of the authors of the bill, acknowledged that the group of people standing behind the podium were not often seen together.

“I never thought I’d be standing with Richard Trumka,” he said, to laughs. But, he said, that broad bipartisan support was why he believed the bill would succeed.

The immigration reform bill was penned by a bipartisan group of eight senators: Republican Sens. John McCain, Lindsey Graham, Jeff Flake, and Marco Rubio, and Democratic Sens. Chuck Schumer, Dick Durbin, Bob Menendez, and Michael Bennett.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/04/18/gang-of-8-brings-norquist-trumka-together/#ixzz2QrM7ogVs

NOTE: ACTUALLY it was written by Norquist & Conda! Norquist talked about it and it has the stench of Conda...everything he’s ever wanted!


2 posted on 04/18/2013 4:41:52 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: AuntB
McCain is a Judas. Rubio is in over his head. Vote No. Secure the borders, Now.
3 posted on 04/18/2013 4:43:43 PM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: AuntB
This nation absolutely will-not-survive this bill should it pass. It will not survive.

What results will not resemble what it replaced in any way shape or form. It will more closely resemble Brazil.

I expect such traitorous behavior from leftist democrats. Any republican who cooperates should see their political careers immediately terminated.

Unfortunately this will do nothing to stop the eminent destruction of the USA.

4 posted on 04/18/2013 4:44:57 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: AuntB

The gang of eight are a gang of traitors!!


5 posted on 04/18/2013 4:47:35 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: AuntB

FUMR!! Smug bastard!!


6 posted on 04/18/2013 4:48:12 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

National Suicide Act


7 posted on 04/18/2013 4:48:31 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: skeeter

The fix is in. The Democrats gave the GOP the gun bill for their support on immigration. All of this wailing and gnashing of teeth by the Dems on the “defeat” of the gun bill is bulls**t. Immigration will pass. The whole thing is a sham.


8 posted on 04/18/2013 4:49:43 PM PDT by huckfillary (qual tyo ta)
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To: huckfillary

Maybe. Pray for devine intervention.


9 posted on 04/18/2013 4:51:31 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: AuntB
"I am convinced this issue will not fall victim to the usual partisan gridlock," Schumer said. "This bipartisan breakthrough offers a degree of hope."

Oh. It's not just a rape, but a gang rape.

10 posted on 04/18/2013 4:51:58 PM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: AuntB

This bill could be the worst legacy of the Obama administration, even moreso than Obamacare.


11 posted on 04/18/2013 4:53:33 PM PDT by Piranha
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To: AuntB
I listened to Rubio on Rush today. What he doesn't seem to understand is the fact that this Admin only enforces laws or parts of laws that they like. They will ignore all the parts that Rubio wanted and allow all the parts that will lead to the ruin of this country to be implemented. ‘Traitor’ isn't strong enough for those in charge of this country these days. I would have loved to see ‘anyone caught voting illegally will have their voting privilege revoked for life’ in this Bill. That would be something I could vote for!
12 posted on 04/18/2013 4:55:45 PM PDT by originalbuckeye (Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy)
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To: AuntB

The alpha male of the Gang of Ocho, flanked by two of his pets.


13 posted on 04/18/2013 4:59:11 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: originalbuckeye

But Rubio says there will be a commission appointed by the border governors, including the California governor, to guarantee enforcement if things are not going well five years from now. What could go wrong? /s


14 posted on 04/18/2013 5:00:04 PM PDT by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: skeeter
Unfortunately this will do nothing to stop the eminent destruction of the USA.

Destruction of the USA is already well underway... this just speeds the process.

15 posted on 04/18/2013 5:00:23 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: AuntB
Enforce the federal immigration law we have now.

There is no point in creating new immigration law if they still get to selectively enforce it.

The feral government needs to prove that it is capable of obeying the law. Once it does that, then we can talk.

Until then, FU all!

16 posted on 04/18/2013 5:01:29 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Deficit spending is simply a scheme for the confiscation of wealth." --Alan Greenspan)
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To: skeeter

Exactly. We must stop this at all costs. Stopping this bill is as important as was stopping the gun controllers. We must flood the Senate with phone calls, e-mail, and letters opposing this immigration bill.


17 posted on 04/18/2013 5:02:00 PM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: AuntB
Marco Rubio standing on the same stage with not only Juan McCain but the likes of Chuck Schumer, marginalizes him and will hurt any future chances he has in the future, I believe.

As Rush told him this afternoon on his show, only 4% of Hispanics make up the entire vote, yet there are more than 25% of conservative voters that this group is willing to alienate to reach the 4%.

Rubio is grabbing for the brass ring being offered by the "Renew our Economy" group and those millionaires who backed Romney in 2012.

Look what a boon to Romney it was, oops, I guess it wasn't actually a boon, Romney LOST!

18 posted on 04/18/2013 5:02:22 PM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: AuntB

“comprehensive immigration reform”

What is that ???

What does that mean ???

This is not about IMMIGRATION

Theres nothiong broken or wrong about immigration

This is not about IMMIGRANTS

This is about ILLEGAL ALIENS

This is about AMNESTY

This doesnt help IMMIGRANTS

It is designed to help those who dont want to IMMIGRATE

or are not eligible because or disease, criminal background etc...

The United States would not have qualified most of these ILLEGAL ALIENS for IMMIGRATION

So why are they considered good enough to push in line in front of those who have jumped through every hoop...some of them YEARS AGO but still wait..

THis is ANTI-IMMIGRATION

This is ANTI-AMERICAN

This is against the best interests of American and American citizens...

This is TREASON...

Tennessee Nana
American Citizen, Former Immigrant


19 posted on 04/18/2013 5:02:57 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: originalbuckeye; All

“I listened to Rubio on Rush today. What he doesn’t seem to understand”

I adore you all, but I’m only going to say this one more time...RUBIO understands exactly what he’s doing! He is not naive. It’s ALWAYS been about Amnesty and MONEY and POWER.

His chief of staff, who he hired before he was elected has been the biggest amnesty player in DC for 3 decades. His amnesty advisor wrote the Bush amnesty, Grover Norquist! They used the tea party name to get him in and as a fundraiser! This is NOT hard to find out! WHO is going to have the nerve to go after these K st Lobbyists who are writing this bill and lobby for Microsoft, Fannie Mae, unions, anyone on the OTHER side?
WHO IS CESAR CONDA?http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3007546/posts


20 posted on 04/18/2013 5:06:02 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: forgotten man
But Rubio says there will be a commission appointed by the border governors, including the California governor, to guarantee enforcement

Right... So what are the terms of this "guarantee?" If they fail (which they will), what's the ramification? A speech? A strongly worded letter of concern?

Much shame on you, Marco Rubio.... so much more was hoped for you.

21 posted on 04/18/2013 5:06:03 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: Piranha

“This bill could be the worst legacy of the Obama administration, even moreso than Obamacare.”

He never touched it...it’s 95% GOP! Guess who’ll get the blame??? Go ahead!


22 posted on 04/18/2013 5:07:26 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“Enforce the federal immigration law we have now. “

[snip]The immigration reform debate and the gun control debate get solved with the same answer..
ENFORCE EXISTING LAW!! Rubio & his band of quislings say our immigration laws are ‘broken’....ONLY BY him and the others who refuse to enforce it! They SHOULD be in JAIL, NOT the SENATE & White House!

“Cruz argued the current gun laws are not being enforced, and said in 2010 there were over 15,000 “felons and fugitives who tried to illegally purchase guns.” According to the Texas Republican, of those 15,000, the Obama Justice Department only prosecuted 44.”

http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/2013/04/pictures-worth-thousand-words-and-news.html

Being a slick talkin’ lawyer, maybe Obama will put him on the supreme court.

The Politico ^ | April 17, 2013 | Katie Glueck
President Barack Obama called Sen. Marco Rubio a “positive force” in the immigration debate and is “reasonably confident” that an immigration deal will be reached, he said in a wide-ranging exclusive interview with NBC’s “Today” show. “I think that he has been a very positive force,” he said of Rubio (R-Fla.)


23 posted on 04/18/2013 5:13:29 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: AuntB
McCain said that the bill is the critical first move in a long process for the Republican Party to repair its broken image among Latino voters.

McCain is a self-important, self-deluded fool.

24 posted on 04/18/2013 5:18:30 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Will88

I bet McCain is tickeled pink...he gets his amnesty and Marco is out on the stump taking all the heat. Old fool!


25 posted on 04/18/2013 5:21:52 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: AuntB
Grover Norquist, sucking the life blood out of the conservative base!


26 posted on 04/18/2013 5:22:45 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: AuntB

Rush talked today about how the 1986 amnesty and high legal immigration turned California from Republican to one of the bluest states of all. How anyone can pretend that granting amnesty to 15 - 20 million illegal aliens will ever result in net new votes for Republicans is beyond me. These people are truly delusional and capable of ignoring an unlimited number of facts that refute their delusions.


27 posted on 04/18/2013 5:28:53 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Christie at the beach

28 posted on 04/18/2013 5:29:20 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: AuntB
I think, (not feel) that AuntB is dead right on this crucial issue and we must all get busy on it like we did in 2007. Rush tried to get Mario to "just say no!" today but he essentially told Rush no!!!

The is absolutely NO reason for any Repellican or especially for any so-called "Tea Party Conservative" to be facilitating any part of this fraudulent action!!!

29 posted on 04/18/2013 5:41:23 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Mark Twain said: "It's easier to fool someone than to convince them they've been fooled!!!)
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To: SierraWasp; skeeter
I think Skeeter is right:

"This nation absolutely will-not-survive this bill should it pass. It will not survive."

30 posted on 04/18/2013 5:51:18 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: SierraWasp

There is one way for Conservatives to test this bill and get it killed.

” We will vote for the bill. We only ask one thing. Build the wall first.”


31 posted on 04/18/2013 5:56:10 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The reason we own guns is to protect ourselves from those wanting to take our guns from us.)
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To: AuntB
I've heard a rumor that once they ram Amnesty down our throats, all eight intend to head on down to the local "tat" parlor and get yellow "Gang of 8" tats on their bellies.

Amnesty! The torpedo that will sink ObamaCare!

32 posted on 04/18/2013 6:29:47 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dude! Where's my Bill of Rights?)
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To: AuntB

Juan McLame is a joke.


33 posted on 04/18/2013 6:35:03 PM PDT by Hyman Roth
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To: Hyman Roth

“Organizers gathered over 20 leaders from business, labor, religious and civil rights groups in order to display broad support for their plan”.

And who was there representing the taxpayers?


34 posted on 04/18/2013 6:51:40 PM PDT by petenmi
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To: Christie at the beach

These arrogant fools are riding for a fall.


35 posted on 04/18/2013 7:02:11 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Jim Robinson; skeeter; GeronL; Standing Wolf; ScottinVA; zerosix; Tennessee Nana; Will88; ...

Norquist REALLY is at the bottom of everything wrong in this country! He’s the best thing that ever happened to Obama....and Rubio/Conda KNOW IT!

The Bush State Dept gave refugee status to the bombers family, probably throught USAID, and WHO worked for them....

[snip]Without a doubt, Grover Norquist’s team has infiltrated USAID’s lucrative contract whirl.

In April of 2005, the respected scholar Daniel Pipes asked “Is Grover Norquist an Islamist?” Grover’s November 2004 marriage to the Muslim Samah Alrayyes reveals an insider at USAID in the Bush years. Samah Norquist’s bio is an indictment of Grover Norquist’s designs on USAID contract information. Samah was the Public Affairs Specialist for Arab and Muslim outreach at the Bureau of Legislative and Public Affairs at USAID:

In her position, she works on developing and implementing communications and public affairs planning with regard to various Muslim and Arab outreach issues including USAID activites in Iraq, Afghanistan, Middle and Near East and many parts of the Muslim world where AID is present. This includes serving as a liaison with Muslim and Arab American interest groups to brief them on USAID activities in the developing world and coordination of the Agency’s participation in events, conferences, and discussions designed to educate the publics about American foreign assistance.

Notably, Samah Norquist served on the board of the Islamic Free Enterprise Institute along with Khaled Saffuri. And for those, like Cleta Mitchell, who are willfully blind to the activities of Grover Norquist on the Shariah Compliant front and possible connections with Muslim Brotherhood operations in the tiers of the non-profit industry, it should be noted that a third operative of the Alamoudi stripe has made it big in the world of USAID.

Read more: Family Security Matters http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/detail/the-norquist-cell-operation-groverkhan#ixzz2QvUKhWio
Under Creative Commons License: Attribution


36 posted on 04/19/2013 9:18:52 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: Tennessee Nana; AuntB
Theres nothiong broken or wrong about immigration

Wrong...We have too many, Bush allowed in more Muslims legally AFTER 911 than the previous two decades...During wartime no less.

We have many millions of Americans out of work...

Wake the hell up people.

37 posted on 04/19/2013 9:24:25 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Going into places like Los Angeles and many other cities today, they are literally crawling with foreigners, many of which hate us, many of which have no desire whatsoever to assimilate or become American.

Enough!


38 posted on 04/19/2013 9:27:13 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: AuntB
Thanks for this added information.

I've been suspecting Norquist of any number of liberal moves and now, it appears I can also add him to a terrorist supporter, perhaps fellow traveler as well!

Unfortunately, he's made himself a "regular fixture" in various conservative groups, some public, others not.

39 posted on 04/19/2013 10:25:14 AM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: AuntB
Keep it comin an keep on diggin AuntB. Mae Brussels used to dig like this in the 1970's and Jim Easom and a few others on KGO would occasionally give her the micro/megaphone! Some because they thought she was waco but Jim always gave her much moral support!!!

You're way better that she ever thought of being and much more corageous, starting with your live and in person efforts at Jarbidge, NV, throught Klamath Falls, OR and more (for all you FR old timers).

40 posted on 04/19/2013 4:20:35 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Mark Twain said: "It's easier to fool someone than to convince them they've been fooled!!!)
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To: Jeff Head; Phil V.; marsh2; Carry_Okie; Grampa Dave; tubebender; hedgetrimmer; forester; ...

Additional old timer pings for the record!!!


41 posted on 04/19/2013 4:23:07 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Mark Twain said: "It's easier to fool someone than to convince them they've been fooled!!!)
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To: SierraWasp

I gagged when little Marko Rubio called Rush on his show yesterday singing praises of this pile of Bull ShiX. It smelled of Karl Marx Rove...


42 posted on 04/19/2013 4:29:50 PM PDT by tubebender (Evening news is where they begin with "Good Evening," and then proceed to tell you why it isn't.)
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To: SierraWasp

You’re too kind. I just feel like we’re running out of time.


43 posted on 04/19/2013 4:30:06 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: Jim Robinson

If they get their way they will be called La Banda de los Ocho.


44 posted on 04/19/2013 4:31:27 PM PDT by csmusaret (America is more divided today , not because of the problems we face but because of Obama's solutions)
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To: tubebender; SierraWasp

“It smelled of Karl Marx Rove...”

You are so right. Where you find Conda, you find Norquist and you find Rove. IMO, a good deal of the game is really little more than money laundering between the various lobbyist run ‘non profits’, including hijacking the tea party label to fund and promote candidates like Rubio. He was an amnesty man long before he was elected. Primed and groomed. Cesar Conda didn’t work for George Soros for nothing. And, yes, I know it sounds crazy.

“Former George W. Bush advisor, Karl Rove* said that Rubio was “the best communicator since Ronald Reagan.” Rove appeared on Fox News’ Special Report with Bret Baier with Democrat Joe Trippi, who also believes that Rubio is the glue that could bring the Republican party together, and come to terms with the Democrats on immigration reform.”

and

“And he’s [Norquist] personally doing fine... he gets two-thirds of his funding from two big corporate billionaire-backed nonprofits: the Center to Protect Patients Rights, which donated $4,189,000 to Americans for Tax Reform in 2010, and Karl Rove’s Crossroads GPS, which gave him $4 million.”
http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/search?q=Karl+Rove


45 posted on 04/19/2013 4:37:54 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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46 posted on 04/19/2013 5:00:18 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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