Posted on 06/03/2013 6:41:46 AM PDT by i88schwartz
They say that the WWII generation is "The Greatest Generation" and I fully agree with that but more than a few members of that generation did an absolutely abysmal job of raising their kids.
During their early lives, the 'Greatest Generation' had experienced the Great Depression, WWII. An almost 17 years of deprivation, rationing, recycling, fear of the future, depression over one's daily existence. These experiences certainly exacted a toll on their psyches. Perhaps, shaped their future outlook.
Perhaps questioned...How if they ever survived, if their economy, their society ever 'returned' to their parents elevated status...they would certainly assure, promised their 'kids' would have a better life. A better secure future.
In the late 1940's, I surmise that this state of mind influenced the their child's upbringing, influenced their voting early 'socialist' agendas, their economic spending/consumption habits, their being more 'tolerant' of the 1940-1950-1960 society's changing values.
Actually the election that delivered America into the hands of the left forever, was the election of JFK.
Democrats wrote a law to replace the American voter.
From unionizing government, to Vietnam, to the 1965 Immigration Act, JFK was the end of us.
“However, if there is one man who can take the most credit for the 1965 act, it is John F. Kennedy. Kennedy seems to have inherited the resentment his father Joseph felt as an outsider in Boston’s WASP aristocracy. He voted against the McCarran-Walter Act of 1952, and supported various refugee acts throughout the 1950s. In 1958 he wrote a book, A Nation of Immigrants, which attacked the quota system as illogical and without purpose, and the book served as Kennedy’s blueprint for immigration reform after he became president in 1960. In the summer of 1963, Kennedy sent Congress a proposal calling for the elimination of the national origins quota system. He wanted immigrants admitted on the basis of family reunification and needed skills, without regard to national origin. After his assassination in November, his brother Robert took up the cause of immigration reform, calling it JFK’s legacy. In the forward to a revised edition of A Nation of Immigrants, issued in 1964 to gain support for the new law, he wrote, “I know of no cause which President Kennedy championed more warmly than the improvement of our immigration policies.” Sold as a memorial to JFK, there was very little opposition to what became known as the Immigration Act of 1965.”
Blame the Americans of 1913....
” Really Mark ?? That group <35 overwhelming voted for Obama twice, supports him on nearly all if not all social issues, expect and trust him to fix the economy, see him as brilliant, etc.....
How is your “good friend” Marco doing today, Mark?
Do you really think that the 10 year old and 20 year old kids are running America right now?
No, but I do think there are some very influential boomers who are and have
shaped the country.
Clintons for example
The Clintons haven’t done much to shape America when compared to the previous generations, where do you think NOW and the ACLU, and the Nation of Islam, and the Teacher’s unions and the government unions and so on and so on came from?
Do you think the Clintons had much effect compared to FDR, Truman, Eisenhower, Nixon, JFK, Johnson, Ford, Carter, HW Bush?
Make a list of the worst things that were done to change America and you will be surprised to see when most of them were done. Actually the worst stuff started slowing up after the late 1970s.
For decades in America there was almost no conservative movement, no push back, for the last couple of decades as the boomers reached leadership age, there has been resistance to the left, an actual movement as evidenced in taking the Congress and creating counter organizations and media in answer to the left’s institutions.
The Clintons haven’t done much to shape America when compared to the previous generations, where do you think NOW and the ACLU, and the Nation of Islam, and the Teacher’s unions and the government unions and so on and so on came from?
Do you think the Clintons had much effect compared to FDR, Truman, Eisenhower, Nixon, JFK, Johnson, Ford, Carter, HW Bush?
Make a list of the worst things that were done to change America and you will be surprised to see when most of them were done. Actually the worst stuff started slowing up after the late 1970s.
For decades in America there was almost no conservative movement, no push back, for the last couple of decades as the boomers reached leadership age, there has been resistance to the left, an actual movement as evidenced in taking the Congress and creating counter organizations and media in answer to the left’s institutions.
Respect your take, and hope you do mine.
He likes Ryan too.
I caught a few minutes of Levin and he had a guest caller who told him that the establishment Republicans have ruined the party and Mark agree fully with him.
I guess Mark thinks that we need more Rubio and Ryans, but he doesn't like Bohner.
Believe the point is, if not from the Progressive Movement from 1916+, and the lack there-of of stopping the same, you have the problems as they manifest today: SS, Medicare, income tax, low-info voters, educ sys, EPA, BATF, etc. Ad nauseam.
Which I wholeheartedly agree. It’s the same group, even here, that believe they ‘earned’ something some politician promised their parents. The group that will berate the ‘kooky’ (L) leanings of some of us here...and continue to vote the lesser of two evils down ticket.
Levin says much which is correct, but the time frame is too short as both of you point out. Portions of the foundation were laid in the latter 1800’s, and it really kicked in beginning in the TR/Wilson era.
If one follows the literature and actions of the so-called "liberal" movement, described in Rev. Arnett's 1876 Sermon, which later morphed into the so-called "progressive" movement described in the research assembled by ProgressingAmerica and others, then one can see that the vast majority of Americans simply were uninformed and unaware of the agenda and power of that collection of individuals and their groups.
We, and the generations immediately preceding us, allowed that movement to gain leadership of the institutions which trained youth, as well as political power.
Calling themselves "liberals," (not in the classical sense of liberalism) and "progressives," they have forsaken the principles underlying America's Constitution and Declaration of Independence, and are systematically dismantling the greatest protections for liberty ever established for a people.
"Ideas have consequences"(Weaver).
The ideas of 1776 came out of a set of ideas consistent with liberty.
We tend to forget, or have never considered, that other world views existed then, as now.
Unless today's citizens rediscover the ideas of liberty existing in what Jefferson called "the American mind" of 1776, we risk going back to the "Old World" ideas which preceded the "Miracle of America."
There are those who call themselves "progressives," when, in fact, their ideas are regressive and enslaving, and as old as the history of civilization.
Would suggest to any who wish an authentic history of the ideas underlying American's founding a visit to this web site, at which Richard Frothingham's outstanding 1872 "History of the Rise of the Republic of the United States" can be read on line.
This 600+-page history traces the ideas which gave birth to the American founding. Throughout, Richard Frothingham, the historian, develops the idea that it is "the Christian idea of man" which allowed the philosophy underlying the Declaration of Independence and Constitution to become a reality--an idea which recognizes the individual and the Source of his/her "Creator"-endowed life, liberty and law.
Is there any wonder that the enemies of freedom, the so-called "progressives," do not promote such authentic histories of America? Their philosophy puts something called "the state," or "global interests" as being superior to individuals and requires a political elitist group to decide what role individuals are to play.
In other words, they must turn the Founders' ideas upside-down in order to achieve a common mediocrity for individuals and power for themselves.
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