Posted on 06/03/2013 6:41:46 AM PDT by i88schwartz
MARK LEVIN: I thought to myself, this generation, this younger generation is actually a pretty good generation, all things told.
It's my generation that is doing things to them. It's my generation that is forcing them into liberal indoctrination centers that we call our public school system. It's my generation that has elected politicians -- there's not enough of them to vote, it's our generation, my generation that has elected people from our generation who create these massive yearly deficits and this ballooning debt that will destroy their futures if we don't figure out how to reverse course.
It's not the younger generation, it's our generation that has shredded the Constitution, and generations before us. It's not the 18-year-olds, the 20-year-olds and 30-year-olds. Yes, it's true.
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I agree.
It was my generation that raised kids too good for farmwork or manual labor.
Bingo.....
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No.....It started in the 1930s....FDR and the New Deal.....that’s when the federal government started doing a zillion things not authorized in the Constitution.
Really Mark ?? That group <35 overwhelming voted for Obama twice, supports him on nearly all if not all social issues, expect and trust him to fix the economy, see him as brilliant, etc.....
Is he trying to get younger listeners with this line of argument?
You could make an equally compelling case that it started with Teddy Roosevelt and the Progressive Era.
Levin’s point is that we Baby Boomers bear a heavy burden of responsibility for our current pickle.
More than 70 percent of single white females voted for Obama and socialism! Most of them under 35.
When the stupid and lazy except liberal indoctrination it’s what we end up with.
I agree. I have been thinking this and saying the same to my family for a very long time. The activists and the followers(who are weak, afraid to stand up on much of anything; want to be friends to their kids generation; have really messed things up) I am ashamed of them. Once they got in power, they went the perfect way of political correctness. These are the ones who should had never been anywhere near power— blame it there though, don’t blame it all on one party either.
I think Levin says we “allowed” it to happen to the younger.
their heads got filled with Utopian Dreams.....
I guess “we” have to reverse this trend.
You are quite correct....the seeds for the Progressivism...were planted early in the last century....with TR in the GOP and Woodrow Wilson in the Democrat Party.....In 1913 three really bad things occurred which helped ruin our limited government Constitutional republic: 1) The creation of the Federal Reserve, 2) The implementation of the federal income tax, 3) the direct election of US Senators. But the federal government did really start going hog wild until the 1930s.
I’ve pondered the idea that the entire swing to the left in this country, from culture to academia and beyond, could be attributed to the baby boom, and that the country may return to its roots once the boomers (of which I am one) die off.
Fellow boomer / 3 rd generation vet here.
Well stated. I remember the peaceniks / disgraceful treatment of vets by the
enlightened of our generation. They have aged, and still don’t get it.
Ditto that.
My husband (we are in our early 50’s) speculates that maybe that generation was just exhausted after the Great Depression and WWII, for whatever reason, they wanted an easier life for their kids, and the values of their generation did not get passed on.
A big problem was the infiltration of the public school system.
If conservatives ever get power again we’ve got to DISMANTLE the public schools and figure out how to educate kids privately ( a lot of private school teachers went to public schools and universities, so even at “conservative” and Christian schools, prinicples of liberty are in general NOT being taught.
I also think the corruption of the evangelical church into “happy clappy super fun rock band mega-church” (as Ann Barnhardt calls it) had a lot to do with it.
If people are not taught to be God fearing, Bible believing and self governing, they will become morally corrupt, and they WILL end up ruled by tyrants.
Most of us can pinpoint the problems, but can we FIX things without all out civil war? I pray that we can....
Such documentation, however, can be seen as early as in the "Centennial Thanksgiving Sermon," delivered in November 1876, by an Ohio Black Legislator and A.M.E. Minister, Benjamin W. Arnett.
The so-called "progressive" agenda has, for decades, sought to replace the founding concept of Creator-endowed individual rights, liberty and laws to protect them with their own false concept of imperfect persons in government assuming the role of the "Supreme Being."
The electorate must become educated to these competing ideas and rediscover America's Founding principles, which can enable them to recognize which are true ideas of liberty, and which are counterfeit ideas of tyranny. That is not easy.
In 2008, Michael Ledeen, on another subject altogether, wrote of the degree to which Americans have been "dumbed down" on some basic ideas underlying our freedom:
Ledeen said, "Our educational system has long since banished religion from its texts, and an amazing number of Americans are intellectually unprepared for a discussion in which religion is the central organizing principle."
In the Pope's speech in Germany a few years ago, he observed:
"A reason which is deaf to the divine and which relegates religion into the realm of subcultures is incapable of entering into the dialogue of cultures."
Ledeen put his finger on a problem that stifles meaningful dialogue and debate in America on a number of subjects--as is now exhibited in the discussion on the causes and solutions to acts of violence such as that in Newtown. Censors [disguised as "protectors" (the Radical Left's ACLU, NEA, education bureaucracies, etc., etc.)] have imposed their limited understanding of liberty upon generations of school children.
From America's founding to the 1950's, ideas derived from religious literature were included in textbooks, through the poetry and prose used to teach children to read and to identify with their world and their country.
Suddenly, those ideas began to disappear from textbooks, until now, faceless, mindless copy editors sit in cubicles in the nation's textbook publishing companies, instructed by their supervisors to remove mere words that refer to family, to the Divine, and to any of the ancient ideas that have sustained intelligent discourse for centuries.
Now, it is the ACLU which accuses middle Americans of "censorship" if they object to books, films, etc., that offend their sensibilities and undermine the character training of their young. Sadly, many of those books and films are themselves products of the minds that have been robbed of exposure to wisdom literature in the nation's schools and universities.
Back in 1876, a Black Minister and Ohio State Legislator, Rev. Benjamin W. Arnett, delivered the "Centennial Thanksgiving Sermon," celebrating the Declaration of Independence, at St. Paul A.M.E. Church in Urbana, Ohio. The Sermon can be read online at the American Memory Section of the LOC, in the African-American Collection. Below is a small excerpt from that Sermon's conclusion. In it Rev. Arnett warned about a movement among "liberals" to remove the ideas underlying America's founding documents. See if you don't recognize those ideas from what you have observed in recent years:
"The Danger to our Country."Now that our national glory and grandeur is principally derived from the position the fathers took on the great questions of right and wrong, and the career of this nation has been unparalleled in the history of the past, now there are those who are demanding the tearing down the strength of our national fabric. They may not intend to tear it down, but just as sure as they have their way, just that sure will they undermine our superstructure and cause the greatest calamity of the age. What are the demands of this party of men? Just look at it and examine it for yourselves, and see if you are willing that they shall have their way; or will you still assist in keeping the ship of state in the hands of the same crew and run her by the old gospel chart! But ye men who think there is no danger listen to the demands of the Liberals as they choose to call themselves:
"'Organize! Liberals of America! The hour for action has arrived. The cause of freedom calls upon us to combine our strength, our zeal, our efforts. These are The Demands of Liberalism:"'1. We demand that churches and other ecclesiastical property shall no longer be exempt from just taxation.
"'2. We demand that the employment of chaplains in Congress, in State Legislatures, in the navy and militia, and in prisons, asylums, and all other institutions supported by public money, shall be discontinued.
"'3. We demand that all public appropriations for sectarian educational and charitable institutions shall cease.
"'4. We demand that all religious services now sustained by the government shall be abolished; and especially that the use of the Bible in the public schools, whether ostensibly as a text-book or avowedly as a book of religious worship, shall be prohibited.
"'5. We demand that the appointment, by the President of the United States or by the Governors of the various States, of all religious festivals and fasts shall wholly cease.
"'6. We demand that the judicial oath in the courts and in all other departments of the government shall be abolished, and that simple affirmation under the pains and penalties of perjury shall be established in its stead.
"'7. We demand that all laws directly or indirectly enforcing the observance of Sunday as the Sabbath shall be repealed.
"'8. We demand that all laws looking to the enforcement of “Christian” morality shall be abrogated, and that all laws shall be conformed to the requirements of natural morality, equal rights, and impartial liberty.
"'9. We demand that not only in the Constitution of the United States and of the several States, but also in the practical administration of the same, no privilege or advantage shall be conceded to Christianity or any other special religion; that our entire political system shall be founded and administered on a purely secular basis; and that whatever changes shall prove necessary to this end shall be consistently, unflinchingly, and promptly made.'
"'Let us boldly and with high purpose meet the duty of the hour.'
"Now we must not think that we have nothing to do in this great work, for the men who are at the head of this movement are men of culture and intelligence, and many of them are men of influence. They are led by that thinker and scholar, F. E. Abbott, than whom I know but few men who has a smoother pen, or who is his equal on the battle-field of thought. He says in an address on the duty of his leagues:
"'My answer may be a negative one to all who see nothing positive in the idea of liberty. The conviction I refer to is this: that, regarded as a theological system, Christianity is Superstition, and, regarded as an organized institution, Christianity is Slavery. The purpose I refer to is this: that, whether regarded as theological system, Christianity shall wholly cease to exercise influence in political matters. Although the national Constitution is strictly secular and non-Christian, there are many things in the practical administration of the government which violate its spirit, and constitute a virtual recognition of Christianity as the national religion. These violations are very dangerous; they are on the increase; they more and more give Christianity a practical hold upon the government; they directly tend to strengthen the influence of Christianity over the people, and to fortify it both as a theology and a church; and they are therefore justly viewed with growing indignation by liberals. Not unreasonably are they looked upon as paving the way to a formidable effort to carry the Christian Amendment to the Constitution; and the liberals are beginning to see that they must extinguish the conflagration in its commencement. I believe all this myself, with more intense conviction every day; and therefore I appeal frankly to the people to begin now to lay the foundations of a great National Party of Freedom. It is not a moment too soon. If the liberals are wise, they will see the facts as they are, and act accordingly. Not with hostility, bitterness, defiance, or anger but rather with love to all men and high faith in the beneficence of consistently republican institutions, do I urge them most earnestly to begin the work at once.'
"He acknowledges that this is a religious nation and wants all men to assist him in eliminating the grand old granite principles from the framework of our national union. Will you do it freeman; will we sell the temple reared at the cost of so much precious blood and treasure? These men would have us turn back the hands on the clock of our national progress, and stay the shadow on the dial plate of our christian civilization; they would have us call a retreat to the soldiers in the army of Christ; the banner of the cross they would have us haul down, and reverse the engines of war against sin and crime; the songs of Zion they would turn into discord, and for the harmony and the melody of the sons of God, they would give us general confusion; they would have us chain the forces of virtue and unloose the elements of vice; they would have the nation loose its moorings from the Lord of truth and experience and commit interest, morally, socially; religiously and politically to the unsafe and unreliable human reason; they would discharge God and his crew and run the ship of State by the light of reason, which has always been but a dim taper in the world, and all the foot-prints it has left are marked with the blood of men, women and children. No nation is safe when left alone with reason.
"But we have no notion of giving up the contest without a struggle or a battle. We are aware that there is a great commotion in the world of thought. Religion and science are at arms length contending with all their forces for the mastery. Faith and unbelief are fighting their old battles over again, everything that can be shaken is shaking. The foundations of belief are assaulted by the army of science and men are changing their opinions. New and starting theories are promulgated to the world; old truths are putting on new garbs. Error is dressing in the latest style, wrong is secured by the unholy alliances, changes in men and things, revolution in church and state, Empires are crumbling, Kingdoms tottering; everywhere the change is seen. In the social circle, in the school house, in the pulpit and in the pews. But amid all the changes are revolutions their are some things that are unchangeable, unmovable and enduring. The forces that underline the vital power of Christianity are the same yesterday, to-day, to-morrow and forever more. They are like their God, who is omnipotent, immovable and eternal, and everywhere truth has marched it has left its moccasin tracks." - (End of Excerpt from "Righteousness Exalteth a Nation, but Sin is a Reproach to Any People")
So said Rev. Benjamin Arnett in 1876. Where is the leader who will declare these things today? His theme was "Righteousness Exalteth a Nation, but Sin is a Reproach to Any People." Might such outspoken thoughts not enlighten the minds of Americans today as they discuss the topic of this thread?
No need for war...secession is the answer.
They get Oakland,Detroit,Camden,NJ,DC,Guadalajara (and a few others).We get Omaha,Indianapolis,Dallas,Raleigh,Atlanta,Nashville and others.We get most of the wheat and oil,they get most of the ObamaPhone recipients and those suffering from rectal syphilis.
The left had it’s most radical and permanent victories from about the 1930s to late 1970s, before boomers were old enough to be doing anything in America.
The first election in which all the boomers were old enough to vote for president, was in 1984, the boomers were not running society, the culture, the courts, the Congress, Senate, city governments, Hollywood, the Supreme Court the presidency, the music industry, Television, the military, etc, etc during the 60s, a generation doesn’t run much of anything until they start hitting their mid 30s and 50s, baby boomer Sarah Palin didn’t hit age 30 until 1994.
Do you really think that the 10 year old and 20 year old kids are running America right now?
I would love that, but I dont believe there will be a secession without a war, unless it happens AFTER a major financial collapse, when the USSA has no more money to pay a corrupted DHS/national police force to fight against us. They will not let the productive slave class leave without a fight- we are what keeps their socialist engine running and they know that. They have to keep us connected and enslaved to them.
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