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Judge Napolitano: NSA Leaker Andrew Snowden "An American Hero" (Video at URL
Real Clear Politics ^ | 6/10/2013 | Ian Schwartz

Posted on 06/10/2013 4:36:24 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

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To: SaraJohnson

You mean OSHA ~ FEMA simply spends money. OSHA spends your money!


121 posted on 06/10/2013 6:41:24 PM PDT by muawiyah (Git yer Red Arm Bands here - $29.95 - NOT SOLD IN STORES - TAX FREE)
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To: Just mythoughts

So very true. Somebody changed the rules and Americans need to demand to know who that was.


122 posted on 06/10/2013 6:41:54 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

I’m curious. I don’t see this guy as a hero; but how was it “wrong” to go to the press?


123 posted on 06/10/2013 6:44:16 PM PDT by Hugh the Scot
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To: steerpike100
I suspect strongly you are an enemy agent who wants us to drop our guard and get back quickly to a pre-9/11 point of view.

Those days are over ~ but we have a backup approach for you people ~ thermonuclear warfare conducted such that the Middle East can continue providing gas and oil, but with no people!

Do you think you'd like that?

124 posted on 06/10/2013 6:44:16 PM PDT by muawiyah (Git yer Red Arm Bands here - $29.95 - NOT SOLD IN STORES - TAX FREE)
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To: muawiyah

If you prefer a country that fails to use the best possible surveillance technology to keep track of foreign enemies
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Are you lumping spying on private citizens without cause into that category?


125 posted on 06/10/2013 6:45:00 PM PDT by austinaero
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To: austinaero

The spying part is directed at enemy aliens and foreigners. Frankly, no one cares if you guys are spied on.


126 posted on 06/10/2013 6:46:53 PM PDT by muawiyah (Git yer Red Arm Bands here - $29.95 - NOT SOLD IN STORES - TAX FREE)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Anybody notice where Snowden is residing at present? Hong Kong and who controls HK, the PRC. Who did our dear leader just have a meeting with in Santa Monica? The new PRC president Xi or #11 as some refer to him. I'll bet Snowden hightailed it to HK for a reason and the PRC has D.C. by the short hairs as in you want this guy you deal for him say drilling rights in Alaskan oil or gas fields or stand back as we annex Taiwan. Nothing at this point could be to outrageous.
127 posted on 06/10/2013 6:48:25 PM PDT by Polynikes (What would Walt Kowalski do. In the meantime "GET OFF MY LAWN")
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To: Red in Blue PA

He broke the law in disclosing classified material through other than whistleblower means. That was wrong.

He exposed an abuse of power, the scope of which we haven’t seen before. That was right.


128 posted on 06/10/2013 6:48:45 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: Hugh the Scot

Legally, he should’ve sought whistleblower status. So I meant wrong in the legal sense not in the moral sense.


129 posted on 06/10/2013 6:51:30 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Disposable communications is lesson 101 in terror cell operations. Fake ID the dimwit at Best Buy. Use the phone for a week or two, and dump it or sell it to some punk kid.


130 posted on 06/10/2013 6:51:52 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: muawiyah

The spying part is directed at enemy aliens and foreigners. Frankly, no one cares if you guys are spied on.
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and you know this how?


131 posted on 06/10/2013 6:53:43 PM PDT by austinaero
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To: muawiyah

There is no evidence that “they” dumped him.

When your pay hits the top of the scale, it is quite common to join a consulting firm, take on a new (or the same) assignment and have the firm bill your time as an expense in a cost-plus contract.

People in SigInt IT with active clearances are paid a lot.


132 posted on 06/10/2013 6:54:38 PM PDT by Andy from Chapel Hill
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To: muawiyah

So when NSA analysts admit (which they have) using their power to spy on citizens they hold grudges against,,,and
when NSA analysts admit (which they have) listening in on phone calls/phone sex between soldiers in Iraq and their loved ones back home,,you want to say the NSA is merely gleaning foreign ‘enemy’ information?

Really. I’d like to see you prove that. The situations I just mentioned actually have been admitted to by NSA.


133 posted on 06/10/2013 6:56:02 PM PDT by austinaero
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Here’s what the government has obtained, and MUCH MORE more (let your imagination run wild):

A GUN REGISTRY
A list of all gun owners and everything they say, think, do and buy
A list of all pro-lifers and everything they say, think, do and buy
A list of all conservative groups
A list of where all meet and when
A list of EVERY SINGLE COMMUNICATION between any of them,
all their financial transactions
all the websites they visit
everything they say on a conservative forum
everything about their kids
where they go
what they do
when their kids go to school and what time they get home from band practice...
EVERYTHING.

ETC ETC ETC INFINITY

Oh, you say it takes a SEARCH WARRANT to see all this??? HAHAHA Ok, sure. I’ll play along.

(We’ll pretend the last few weeks of IRS abuses weren’t exposed to us).

Who do you think APPOINTS the judges that approve the warrants?
It was a judge who authorized the AP surveillance of 20 phones and 100 journalists...for no good reason.

Think that won’t happen to the Tea Party, etc?
GET REAL my friend.

And by the way, we are one Supreme Court Justice away from outlawing the Fourth Amendment all together.

You truly think that little piece of paper will protect us from the greatest temptation to totalitarian power this world has ever known?

If so, you’re sure a trusting soul. Just look at that little piece of paper called the Constitution if you believe that.


134 posted on 06/10/2013 6:57:47 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (The Buck Stops Over There.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

The “classified information” appears to be that the government was directly violating the 4th amendment and spying on US Citizens without any legitimate reason.

I wouldn’t agree that, just because the government decides to conceal its criminal activities behind “classification”, a citizen is under any obligation to respect that.


135 posted on 06/10/2013 6:58:21 PM PDT by Hugh the Scot
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill
During the biggest economic downturn in this country since Roosevelt this guy moves from a high paying job to a high paying job ~ yeah, that's normal ~ but more difficult ~ and then he tells us stories that you want to believe so bad........

He made donations to Ron Paul. Not a good sign.

He was canned ~

136 posted on 06/10/2013 7:02:04 PM PDT by muawiyah (Git yer Red Arm Bands here - $29.95 - NOT SOLD IN STORES - TAX FREE)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Ok. I get this. Thank you for clarifying.


137 posted on 06/10/2013 7:03:14 PM PDT by Hugh the Scot
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To: BuckeyeTexan
This one defies political lines. Glenn Beck and Michael Moore for Snowden; Bill Maher and Robert Bolton oppose.

I admit, that mix of names makes it tough for me to pigeon hole. I'd have described those as little government, big government, big government, big government. So I can see the last two. I'll just attribute Michael Moore as just being a contrarian jerk (voila!).

138 posted on 06/10/2013 7:03:19 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: DoughtyOne
This one is splintering the right isn’t it. Bolton sees it just the opposite.

Geez. Who cares what Michael Bolton thinks about this? Shut up and sing, Bolton!

139 posted on 06/10/2013 7:03:38 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: nikos1121

He went overseas because if he tried to go the American press, not only would it never be reported on, he and potentially his family would be dead in a matter of hours.


140 posted on 06/10/2013 7:24:42 PM PDT by RB156
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