Posted on 06/16/2013 7:49:09 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
Yeah, you’re only pro-Assad, and yet claim “we don’t have a dog in that race”.
I want both sides to lose, and Israel annex it, to build tons of Jewish settlements on it.
Alawites live in Latatkia near the coast. Sp divide Syria in two would be the best solution
Every decent Middle Eastern country is a socialist dictatorship. Q-duffy’s Libya had an average household income of Mississippi- that is what you call a 2nd world. So did Saddam’s Iraq, Syria was rather poor thus ahead of Mexico in living quality (which is not bad by 3rd world standard).
Also communists did not run rallies calling America a ‘Great Satan’ or urging their people to destroy Israel.
Afghanistan under Russians wasn’t a World’s primary hellhole. It was closer to that is Turkey now. People were coming there from neighboring US ‘ally’ countries for a relative freedom from Islamist bullcrap, let alone to enjoy with it’s advanced infrastructure.
Russians and their puppets removed veils from women, sent them to school, colleges, factories.
Everything is relative in this World. Socialism is a worst disaster to happen in a civilized society but it is a huge improvement to a less civilized societies.
The alternative is a jihadi chaos most of the time.
Another alternative is a Kemalism but it seems like Turkey is a single nation capable to adopt any western ideas, it is simply not the case for all the other savages who are more interested in killing Jews land Christians than in improving their lifestyles.
The outcome of the civil war will be one of two things. Either a secular despot (Assad) continues to rule, or groups similar to the Muslim Brotherhood (or worse) set up shop in the place. Both scenarios may be bad for Israel, but for the US and the rest of the western world, the former is still preferable to the latter. The fantasy about the “Arab Spring” bringing western style capitalism and democracy to the Arab world is just that - make-believe that only people like Obama, McCain, and some loopy neoconservatives believe in.
Meanwhile, the rebels that Obama and McCain want to back are slaughtering or expelling Christians. Being left to their own devices probably seems like a far better alternative to them, wouldn't you think?
Foreign policy realists recognized that it's easier to work with a socialist dictator than with Islamists.
“Yeah, you’re only pro-Assad, and yet claim “we don’t have a dog in that race”.”
Sorry; I am not “pro-Assad”; I am simply NOT “pro” the phony Sunni-Islamist putsch against him; they are no better and may in fact be worse.
You want to take sides. I don’t think WE have a “side” in what is going on. We are being used as a tool in an agenda that is not ours and in the long run not in our favor on the misguided notion that simply by getting rid of one bad actor we are getting something better. There is in fact no evidence of that. And inside Syria there is lots of evidence to the contrary.
Assad’s our enemy, and of course I want him to fall.
But I’m also against al-Qaeda, and the longer the civil war goes on, the more of both sides die. That’s excellent for the US.
That’s my position on the Syrian civil war — pro-US. That is not your position, which is why you have so much hostility toward me and are, indeed, on Assad’s side.
93,000 Syrians have been killed by Assad, and he and his thugs haven’t been careful about what they hit with their artillery and whom they kill. Very few have been non-Syrians. Assad’s been responsible for indiscriminate killing of Christians. The “articles” about massacres of Christian villages are sourced in Assad’s own propaganda mills, and reprinted in (and on FR, cited from) Russia’s propaganda sources.
If Syria’s Christians continue to back Assad, they’re backing one muzzie against another. They need to either flee or arm themselves and defend themselves. SINCE SYRIA ISN’T OUR FIGHT, no one around here can possibly complain about that.
It’s been mostly that way for months, but ultimately I doubt Assad will go for it. If he still had occupied Lebanon behind him, he’d have been in better shape.
As it is, Iran is going to keep pouring in thugs and proxy thugs to put a wrap on the Syrian civil war before Lebanon’s Sunni minority (Christians are not a majority in Lebanon, but there are more Lebanese Christians than any other single group) finally gets its kaka together and blasts Hizbollah to kingdom come. At that time, you’ll see the pro-Hizzies seeping out the basement walls around here, claiming that Lebanon’s Christians would be better off with the Hizzies still in charge.
Technically if you divide Lebanese Muslims into two groups, then yes, the Christians outnumber them.
“But I’m also against al-Qaeda, and the longer the civil war goes on, the more of both sides die. That’s excellent for the US.”
There more Syrian people dieing who are neither “pro-Assad” nor “pro-Al Queda” than either Assad’s soldiers or the “rebels”.
That’s why I am not in favor of helping the “rebels” or helping Assad either.
That is not a “pro-Assad” position, it is a “pro-Syrian civilians” position.
The point is, Christians in Arab countries get a much better deal from secular despots than they do from Islamists.
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