Posted on 06/23/2013 1:03:12 AM PDT by kronos77
US whistleblower Edward Snowden is en route to Moscow from Hong Kong on an Aeroflot flight, reports AFP. Washington has filed an extradition order to the Hong Kong authorities on charges of espionage, theft and conversion of government property.
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What you're watching is a computer generated simulation of reality. Google knows what will shape our opinions. I'm sure Google doesn't have a Fed contract to provide that information. /s They certainly gave it to Obama for Amerika.
Mr. Snowden didn't have a Russian visa
The passengers were bussed to a terminal, what is an unusual practice
One business class passenger told a car with red diplomatic licence plates had ppicked up a WHite man
There were Ecuador diplomatic cars at the airport
Aeroflot says Mr. Snowden has bought a ticket for the Monday flight to Havana.
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Definitely hope it was edited, kinda funny, in an odd kind of way.
Didn't know that. My earliest recollection was during the Clinton Administration, although it makes sense that intelligence gathering operations such as this may take years to truly develop as they require technology maturation to really implement.
Game. Set. Match.
PS the guy is not stupid, he knows he could be assassinated easily by agents out there trained in those arts, and so a shell game or a fakeout could also be in the making, where they confuse the hell out of whomever wants his butt...after hearing him talk, I think he would be capable of devising such a goose chase until he gets to un-extraditionable soil, and with a group like Wikileaks now backing up, yes, they could have all kinds of ploys going on. If I put my self in his shoes, regardless of whether I were a "hero" or a "traitor", knowing the capabilities of those chasing me globally, I would certainly have such an elaborate, complext plan to confound them and keep my heart beating, or being overpowered and thrown into a van and immediately "hooded".
27 Edward Snowden Quotes About US Government Spying
Full ACK.
Edward Snowden asks Ecuador for asylum
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-23023576
Absolutely. It is ECUADOR the man is heading for. Obama must be sh*tting bricks. Wait until even MORE US Federal Government violations of privacy and the Constitution, not to mention intimidation and blackmail to get their way in D.C., that will be coming out. No wonder they want him either double-tapped on the spot, or spirited off to Guantanamo. He is, in short, an “Enemy of the State”. So are growing thousands of other people in our own country. It should be a concern to every conservative, civil libertarian and small government support...I know for example Barry Goldwater must be turning in his grave, probably Ronald Reagan as well. But not guys like Dole, McCain, Graham, Romney, Jeb Bush, yeah our real heroes there.
Oh for heaven sakes. Like Snowden had any choice in where he would fly to next. Snowden is a political hot potato, and he’s being tossed from one Commie country to another until they can get him out to a country that will take him in, most likely Equador. He might have to make one last stop in Cuba before being bounced to Equador, or possibly Venezuela.
Snowden has to be sent to a country that will be able to protect him once he is there, and keep him out of the clutches of Obama who is real PO’d right now because he’s been given a very public espionage outing, and Snowden’s whistle blowing has exposed the fact that not only is there foreign spying, but also domestic spying by Obama’s regime on our own citizenry. He’s going to go after Snowden tooth and tong.
I don’t think Iceland will be safe for him, that leaves Equador or Venezuela. Snowden doesn’t have a lot of choices, and his final location is in the hands of Putin at the moment. Putin doesn’t like Obama. Putin will stick it to him. Obama is going to end up politically and internationally with a very black eye (pardon the double entendre).
The bottom line here is that Snowden chose to go to Hong Kong because it has a modicum of freedom from mainline China, and it was a close and safer choice for him to make when he first fled as he lived in Hawaii. So it was logical for him to fly to a country that was easiest to get to physically. He didn’t go to China; he went to Hong Kong, which is a bird of a different feather because of its British colonial heritage.
I am so sick of the various talking heads and particular congressmen saying this morning on TV that Snowden has chosen China (not Hong Kong, they keep saying China to make it sound bad), the Soviet Union (like he had any choice; and as it is a long plane flight from China heading West, there had to be a stopover somewhere), and then possibly to Cuba (again, the plane has to land somewhere over here so he can then hop to Equador or Venezuela). Snowden’s fate as to where he eventually ends up depends on countries that are communist, whether Snowden likes it or not as it’s his only route out.
Bottom line, I believe Snowden will end up in Equador, where he will be best protected from the long arm of Obama and his regime. Obama will go after any whistleblower that dares to adversely cross him and his thugs and that makes them look bad or blows the whistle on the behavior of their regime. It’s the Chicago way; I ought to know, I have lived and worked in downtown Chicago, and now (retired) reside in the one truly conservative suburb of Chicago, DuPage County.
ECHELON: America’s Secret Global Surveillance Network — Patrick ...
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ECHELON is controlled by the NSA and is operated in conjunction with the .... would follow for forty years would be the breeding ground of the ECHELON spy system. ... President Harry Truman established the NSA in 1952 with a presidential ...
“Executive Summary
In the greatest surveillance effort ever established, the US National Security Agency (NSA) has created a global spy system, codename ECHELON, which captures and analyzes virtually every phone call, fax, email and telex message sent anywhere in the world. ECHELON is controlled by the NSA and is operated in conjunction with the General Communications Head Quarters (GCHQ) of England, the Communications Security Establishment (CSE) of Canada, the Australian Defense Security Directorate (DSD), and the General Communications Security Bureau (GCSB) of New Zealand. These organizations are bound together under a secret 1948 agreement, UKUSA, whose terms and text remain under wraps even today.
The ECHELON system is fairly simple in design: position intercept stations all over the world to capture all satellite, microwave, cellular and fiber-optic communications traffic, and then process this information through the massive computer capabilities of the NSA, including advanced voice recognition and optical character recognition (OCR) programs, and look for code words or phrases (known as the ECHELON “Dictionary”) that will prompt the computers to flag the message for recording and transcribing for future analysis. Intelligence analysts at each of the respective “listening stations” maintain separate keyword lists for them to analyze any conversation”
‘I’m of the opinion that what Snowden is talking about is actually the continuation of ECHELON.
ECHELON is an old Cold War project, and once things like that get started, they tend to have an inertia of their own - they never really shut down, they just change the name as needed.’
You may be correct. Which is why I posted this:
“Echelon was started during the Truman years and has probably evolved to what we are seeing and hearing.”
That's been my opinion as well (as I've expressed in my posts on this topic) and I believe several other Freepers have come around to that line of thinking as well.
First, Snowden knows what he's doing and will do it despite the feverish lets-make-a-guess projections of those following his rather dramatic flight.
Second, everyone here should be gosh-awful grateful that Snowden blew his whistle well in advance of the crucial, life-or-death mid-term elections....which Obama and thugs plan to STEAL and CORRUPT with the aid of all the overt and still covert electronic instrumentation they have at their fingertips.
Without one lone, bespectacled guy whistling in the dark, any Obamafia criminality a short 17 months from now will be at least a little more difficult to get away with....now that major light has been shined on a lot of their evil machinations.
Leni
Heck, it may be our last time before 0bama and his DHS/NSA/IRS etc. come to take us away.
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