State of Florida vs. George Zimmerman Self-defense is not a crime: VERDICT WATCH.

annettekblog.wordpress ^ | July 12, 2013 | annettek

[Uncle Chip]

I pray for a fair and just verdict. My support and thoughts go out to the Zimmerman family and the defense team as we wait.

Links to Live Streams (Thanks Carole):

WAT~ http://wildabouttrial.com/trial_videos/watch-the-george-zimmerman-hearing-live/

Local WFTV~ http://www.wftv.com/s/zimmerman-livestream//

Click Orlando~ http://www.clickorlando.com/news/-/1637132/19533480/-/fm5b93z/-/index.html

[Momto2]

I have read numerous FReepers saying they have heard BOTH coming from Z. BOTH, your honor, and, yes sir. I have definitely heard the “yes sir”. No doubt in my mind what I heard. The two do not sound alike when you try to run them off quickly one after another. They just don’t. This was discussed at some length on prior days’ thread.

I cannot believe this is still be argued about.... does anyone REALLY believe MOM would let him continue to do this (even if he did say it one time?) That would be off the chart (regardless of how the judge looks)....MOM is very professional and would not allow his client to make such a mistake!

[ArmstedFragg]

Means they’re playing their roles properly.

[piytar]

Lesser included with all elements included in elements of murder 2 means it can be added at the end by a judge.

[spacejunkie2001]

I know it sounds that way but he’s saying yesyerhonor...and honor is dropping off because he’s soft spoken. so it sounds like yesyer or yessir

[Conserev1]

Well as long as the Judge does not find it offensive, I guess he’s ok! I’m sure the Glorified one in the robe would chastise the boy!
As did some certain Senator that whose name I cannot recall when reffered to as MAM!

[txrangerette]

He has been testified to have said BOTH at various times, by other FReepers. I myself have heard “yes sir” in the few times I actually heard the audio. No question it wasn’t “your honor” when I heard it. Others chimed in and said they also heard that, clearly, and had also heard the “your honor” at different times.

[Jeff Chandler]

Prosecution supporters are waiting with bated breath.

[NOVACPA]

She was completely unhinged. Started yammering about civil rights and such...

[NautiNurse]

Counsel did not read Judge TOOL’s handwritten response to the jury. She wrote it, and verbally read it back to them. No telling what else she put in the note.

[txhurl]

All six would have to defect, in order to convict. A “stealth juror” would result in a hung jury.

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Thank you for reminding us of that.

[OneWingedShark]

Judges usually say you will not allow sympathy to enter into your considerations. You are the trier of fact and determine only the guilt or non-guilt of the accused. The Court’s province is to determine the punishment (penalty).

It is a separation of duties thing.

No, the Jury has the right to try the law itself — to wit, it could be a blatant misapplication of the law such that the intent was one thing but the absolute-letter another; or a law which is contrary to the Constitution (federal or state); or a law which is morally repugnant (see fugitive slave laws).

To deny that the jury has the authority to consider the full law and render as they will is to deny the jury its rightful place as being the check against government overreach/retaliation/tyranny. Moreover, as evidenced in this case, there are many laws (and regulations) which have been violated both during this trial and in order to bring the case to trial itself. (Consider the withholding of evidence from the defense, the Stand Your Ground law as-written, and the firing of the police-chief and IT guy for resisting injustice.) If the government [prosecution] cannot present a good compelling case while playing fair, then how pure are the intentions of that prosecution? Moreover, if the law is not directly available to them and must be filtered through the system then how trustworthy is that information if they have broken laws and regulations during the course of the case anyway?

[over3Owithabrain]

Nice - your mom made “yellow drank”. Ahead of her time that gangsta lol

[Toespi]

WTF TV. Audio feed keeps going in and out, driving me crazy.

[Jeff Chandler]

SpecialBitter @SpecialBitter

.@LawSelfDefense OVERHEARD: “Maybe we shouldn’t write this reply in cursive.”

[longtermmemmory]

I think their question back was sound.

I am hoping the defense team is pulling case law to require reading of the “self defense instruction.” and “stand your ground” included in the pdf.

something to put doubt on the prosecution’s effort to lap. (and focus burden is properly and unfairly intentionally on the state)

[Sarah Barracuda]

That’s been the left’s plan all along, to make sure that thugs get away with crime and citizens no longer have the right to defend themselves

[ArmstedFragg]

This jury response will be very revealing. We'll know precisely what they're hung up on. The return answer might determine the case.

[BuckeyeTexan]

I’m a chick too. I’ve been on the receiving end of the snottiness too many times to count. I grew up with boys. I fought with boys. My interests are more in line with guys’ interests. I work with mostly men.

Generally speaking, because the FReeper women I’ve met are outstanding and are an exception to the rule, but most women enjoy stabbing each other in the back. I prefer the way men handle personal disagreements. Take it outside. Kick some butt. Go back inside and have a beer together.

[CatherineofAragon]

"Z voted for Obama, but I don’t think he’s a very political guy.

Right about now he’s probably thinking that wasn’t a good move."

For now I'm willing to give the poor guy the benefit of the doubt....with everything he's been through, he may well have come around.

[sheikdetailfeather]

New Black Panther Party chairman: Leave me out of this ‘peace after the verdict’ talk

http://twitchy.com/2013/07/13/new-black-panther-party-chairman-leave-me-out-of-this-peace-after-the-verdict-talk/?utm_source=autotweet&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=twitter